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Scarborough residents say they're being left out of transit improvements in the city


Depsite plans to open a busway in the borough, Scarborough residents say they’re being left behind as major transit lines open across Toronto.

Rhoda Potter, president of the Agincourt Village Community Association, has lived in Scarborough for more than 50 years and says her community is waiting to see a subway line come to fruition.


“Many people in Scarborough cannot afford a car. They need to take public transit and it takes them hours to get anywhere,” she said.

Potter says she's been attending Metrolinx meetings and talking with MPs to advocate for her community

Scarborough has been without a subway line since the Scarborough RT shut down in 2022 after a train derailment. In the meantime, the city put in designated bus lanes and Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow recently announced that a busway will open on the old RT route in September.

But Potter said the busway does not solve Scarborough's "desert of of higher order public transit."

The city is planning the Eglinton East light-rail transit project that would, per its website, serve eastern Scarborough from Kennedy Station to Malvern Town Centre. But community members in Scarborough haven’t heard about a timeline for the project.


More focus on getting downtown, not around Scarborough: resident
Krissan Veerasingam is the board co-chair for TTCriders, a volunteer advocacy group of transit riders. He grew up in Scarborough.

“It feels like everywhere else, transit is being invested in and projects are being completed,” he said. “Whereas in Scarborough, we've actually gone backwards in terms of the transit infrastructure we had.”

The long-delayed Finch West LRT opened on Dec. 7. And the Eglinton Crosstown, even further delayed, recently completed its last day of testing. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has said it could open in 2026 or "very soon after."

Potter says better transit options are needed to speed up travel within Scarborough and east-end Toronto. But, she says, most interim solutions and in-the-works developments, like bus rapid transit and the Scarborough Subway Extension, are geared towards transporting people to the city’s core.


“We need to be able to get around here as well. We don't all want to go to Union,” she said.

The 'transit poverty' gap
Veerasingam says the interim bus lanes implemented by the city are a “Band-Aid solution,” and that a transit line like the Eglinton East LRT would require financial backing from the province and the federal government.

“When we don't prioritize these projects that serve the most underserved people in our community, the effect is felt wider than just this transit project,” said Veerasingam.

The lack of public transit excludes community members from opportunities that could support socio-economic advancement, says Steven Farber, a professor of transportation geography at the University of Toronto Scarborough campus.

“That makes it much harder for those folks to just go out and conduct their normal daily life activities, whether it's getting to school, taking care of kids, visiting family, getting to work, medical appointments,” he said.


Farber calls this phenomenon “transportation poverty" gap.

“The longer we wait to start correcting this situation, the worse things are going to get for everyone,” he said.

The Eglinton East LRT is especially important for Scarborough, Farber says, because it would serve as a connection between communities deep within the borough.

Potter says a transit line in Scarborough would also increase employment and economic opportunities.

“We are becoming inundated with condo development and housing, where everybody has to go somewhere else to go to work,” said Potter. “If you put in the public transit system, we know that businesses are attracted to that.”

City council has approved an early stage "10 per cent functional design" plan for the Eglinton East LRT, which was submitted to the province, according to a statement from city spokesperson Laura McQuillan.

She says the city will work on a "30 per cent design" expanding on the initial plan in 2026.

As for funding, city spokesperson Saira Virani, "commitments from our provincial and federal partners will be confirmed as the project progresses."
That's what you get for letting DoFo and his crackhead brother take care of your transit.
Endless contracts, massive service cuts and his buddies make bank at Metrolinx.
 

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DoFo and his crackhead brother cancelled transit city, that was the best and most complete plan to date.
Now he's trying to build parts of it but through Metrolinx, which is just a depository for tory insiders.

Look how much of the plan DoFo is building after Rob cancelled it.

Mickey Mouse transit plan for a major city.
 
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Scarborough residents say they're being left out of transit improvements in the city


Depsite plans to open a busway in the borough, Scarborough residents say they’re being left behind as major transit lines open across Toronto.

Rhoda Potter, president of the Agincourt Village Community Association, has lived in Scarborough for more than 50 years and says her community is waiting to see a subway line come to fruition.


“Many people in Scarborough cannot afford a car. They need to take public transit and it takes them hours to get anywhere,” she said.

Potter says she's been attending Metrolinx meetings and talking with MPs to advocate for her community

Scarborough has been without a subway line since the Scarborough RT shut down in 2022 after a train derailment. In the meantime, the city put in designated bus lanes and Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow recently announced that a busway will open on the old RT route in September.

But Potter said the busway does not solve Scarborough's "desert of of higher order public transit."

The city is planning the Eglinton East light-rail transit project that would, per its website, serve eastern Scarborough from Kennedy Station to Malvern Town Centre. But community members in Scarborough haven’t heard about a timeline for the project.


More focus on getting downtown, not around Scarborough: resident
Krissan Veerasingam is the board co-chair for TTCriders, a volunteer advocacy group of transit riders. He grew up in Scarborough.

“It feels like everywhere else, transit is being invested in and projects are being completed,” he said. “Whereas in Scarborough, we've actually gone backwards in terms of the transit infrastructure we had.”

The long-delayed Finch West LRT opened on Dec. 7. And the Eglinton Crosstown, even further delayed, recently completed its last day of testing. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has said it could open in 2026 or "very soon after."

Potter says better transit options are needed to speed up travel within Scarborough and east-end Toronto. But, she says, most interim solutions and in-the-works developments, like bus rapid transit and the Scarborough Subway Extension, are geared towards transporting people to the city’s core.


“We need to be able to get around here as well. We don't all want to go to Union,” she said.

The 'transit poverty' gap
Veerasingam says the interim bus lanes implemented by the city are a “Band-Aid solution,” and that a transit line like the Eglinton East LRT would require financial backing from the province and the federal government.

“When we don't prioritize these projects that serve the most underserved people in our community, the effect is felt wider than just this transit project,” said Veerasingam.

The lack of public transit excludes community members from opportunities that could support socio-economic advancement, says Steven Farber, a professor of transportation geography at the University of Toronto Scarborough campus.

“That makes it much harder for those folks to just go out and conduct their normal daily life activities, whether it's getting to school, taking care of kids, visiting family, getting to work, medical appointments,” he said.


Farber calls this phenomenon “transportation poverty" gap.

“The longer we wait to start correcting this situation, the worse things are going to get for everyone,” he said.

The Eglinton East LRT is especially important for Scarborough, Farber says, because it would serve as a connection between communities deep within the borough.

Potter says a transit line in Scarborough would also increase employment and economic opportunities.

“We are becoming inundated with condo development and housing, where everybody has to go somewhere else to go to work,” said Potter. “If you put in the public transit system, we know that businesses are attracted to that.”

City council has approved an early stage "10 per cent functional design" plan for the Eglinton East LRT, which was submitted to the province, according to a statement from city spokesperson Laura McQuillan.

She says the city will work on a "30 per cent design" expanding on the initial plan in 2026.

As for funding, city spokesperson Saira Virani, "commitments from our provincial and federal partners will be confirmed as the project progresses."
Why do you keep changing the title of this thread?

This is now 2 title changes in just a few days.

U got a problem.
 

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Why do you keep changing the title of this thread?

This is now 2 title changes in just a few days.

U got a problem.
Why is it an issue for you if I update the title of the thread?
 

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That's what you get for letting DoFo and his crackhead brother take care of your transit.
Endless contracts, massive service cuts and his buddies make bank at Metrolinx.
Can't blame everything on DoFo. Dooffo has been in power for 7 years. Before that, you had the Liberals.

Transit and planning has been fucked up in this city since the 1960's. And City Hall has been at least as much to blame as Queens Park.
 
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Can't blame everything on DoFo. Dooffo has been in power for 7 years. Before that, you had the Liberals.

Transit and planning has been fucked up in this city since the 1960's. And City Hall has been at least as much to blame as Queens Park.
The Scarborough subway plan was a Rob Ford campaign promise.
DoFo took it on, blaming him is reasonable.
 

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Why is it an issue for you if I update the title of the thread?
The original title of ur thread was the FInch LRT Line 6.

When the thread started to wane, u changed the title to Toronto traffic Czar appointment.

Now, less than 3 days later and after lacklustre performance u change the title again to Scarborough ignored in transit plans.

Why not just make an overall title regarding Toronto transit, traffic etc instead of ur schizophrenic, helter-skelter, manic approach to the thread, Norman?

That would be the sane and rational thing to do, especially for such a stable genius as yourself.

Do you know where mother is?
 
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The original title of ur thread was the FInch LRT Line 6.

When the thread started to wane, u changed the title to Toronto traffic Czar appointment.

Now, less than 3 days later and after lacklustre performance u change the title again to Scarborough ignored in transit plans.

Why not just make an overall title regarding Toronto transit, traffic etc instead of ur schizophrenic, helter-skelter, manic approach to the thread, Norman?

That would be the sane and rational thing to do, especially for such a stable genius as yourself.

Do you know where mother is?
Anby, I don't care if this thread gets 100 views or 10,000. TBH, I didn't really care if the big thread got 100 views or 1M+. (Although it's fun that the thread became so popular).

I change the name of the thread to keep the name accurate when I add new items to the thread, instead of making several different threads.

Here's a word of advice. Try and have a real conversation instead of just picking at people. You'll get a lot more respect that way.
 

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Anby, I don't care if this thread gets 100 views or 10,000. TBH, I didn't really care if the big thread got 100 views or 1M+. (Although it's fun that the thread became so popular).

I change the name of the thread to keep the name accurate when I add new items to the thread, instead of making several different threads.

Here's a word of advice. Try and have a real conversation instead of just picking at people. You'll get a lot more respect that way.
How come you are the only one that posts on your 1 million view thread?
 

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Its still better than what DoFo and the crackhead put in place.
Finally Toronto is getting their downtown relief line. Thirty years way overdue. Extending line 2 to Scarborough is smarter than any LRT plan and badly needed to replace the outdated RT. No room on the south side of Jane Street for and LRT and the rich nimbys in the area were gonna put a stop to it anyways. Eglington should've been a subway to begin with. Bus lanes are for the burbs not the big city.
 
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Can't blame everything on DoFo. Dooffo has been in power for 7 years. Before that, you had the Liberals.

Transit and planning has been fucked up in this city since the 1960's. And City Hall has been at least as much to blame as Queens Park.
That's why they left it up to Metrolinx. The old way wasn't working. So they tried something new. According to Franky. The Vietnam War was Trump's fault too.
 

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I change the name of the thread to keep the name accurate when I add new items to the thread, instead of making several different threads.
What a load. No jury would buy what ur trying to sell.

If ya really wanna it keep it accurate start a new thread because:

This thread was about the Finch LRT Line 6 and it's opening day problems. And it was fine that way. Like 7 pages devoted to the title of thread!

Then u make the thread inaccurate by changing the title to "Toronto anoints a traffic czar".

When that didn't pan out, barely a comment, then u made the thread even more inaccurate and many would say, scattered, schizophrenic and manic by changing the title yet again to Scarborough is getting shafted on transit.

What nonsense. You may as well throw spaghetti against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Stable genius territory.
 
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Finally Toronto is getting their downtown relief line. Thirty years way overdue. Extending line 2 to Scarborough is smarter than any LRT plan and badly needed to replace the outdated RT. No room on the south side of Jane Street for and LRT and the rich nimbys in the area were gonna put a stop to it anyways. Eglington should've been a subway to begin with. Bus lanes are for the burbs not the big city.
A sucker is born every minute.
The team that almost brought you the Eglington LRT is now in charge of the downtown relief line.

 

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A sucker is born every minute.
The team that almost brought you the Eglington LRT is now in charge of the downtown relief line.

Now explain why other transit projects never got built or why the Sheppard Line was delayed and way over budget. Any twitter links to that. Why hasn't Line 2 been extended westbound to a larger population instead Line 1 got extended northbound to a less populated region.
 
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Now explain why other transit projects never got built or why the Sheppard Line was delayed and way over budget. Any twitter links to that. Why hasn't Line 2 been extended westbound to a larger population instead Line 1 got extended northbound to a less populated region.
Success politicians have cancelled their predecessor's plans for a long time.
But the Miller plan was the best the city had seen in 50 years, a plan for the full city that offered the right transit for population density.
DoFo and the crackhead wanted a subway for Scarborough despite the lack of density and riders.
Now they are building some lines that Miller had already planned and had financed.

DoFo and the crackhead killed Transit city and gave us a hodgepodge, pet projects but not a fully thought out plan for the city.
Tory's Fastrack and DoFo's Ontario line are perfect examples.
 

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What a load. No jury would buy what ur trying to sell.

If ya really wanna it keep it accurate start a new thread because:

This thread was about the Finch LRT Line 6 and it's opening day problems. And it was fine that way. Like 7 pages devoted to the title of thread!

Then u make the thread inaccurate by changing the title to "Toronto anoints a traffic czar".

When that didn't pan out, barely a comment, then u made the thread even more inaccurate and many would say, scattered, schizophrenic and manic by changing the title yet again to Scarborough is getting shafted on transit.

What nonsense. You may as well throw spaghetti against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Stable genius territory.
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The thread you obsessively hate so much just broke 1 Million views, Anby.

Your threads get a couple of hundred views.

Comparatively, my big thread is like a proud oak tree, stately and beautiful and tall. Your threads are like little cabbages and carrots barely rising above the vegetable field.

Just telling it like it is.
 

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Success politicians have cancelled their predecessor's plans for a long time.
But the Miller plan was the best the city had seen in 50 years, a plan for the full city that offered the right transit for population density.
DoFo and the crackhead wanted a subway for Scarborough despite the lack of density and riders.
Now they are building some lines that Miller had already planned and had financed.

DoFo and the crackhead killed Transit city and gave us a hodgepodge, pet projects but not a fully thought out plan for the city.
Tory's Fastrack and DoFo's Ontario line are perfect examples.
Eglington Crosstown and Finch West are the two LRT projects from Transit City that DoFo kept. Eglington should've been a subway from the beginning. Transit City was a stupid plan and would've been scrapped no matter who the Premier was. Scarborough is the third most populated borough in Toronto and the least funded. It needs a subway extension for sure. DT relief line should've been priority numero uno.
 
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