For those that swing or go to sex clubs or hedonism vacations?

Birf · Monday at 10:23 AM

The world is mostly full of average looking people, let's say 4s 5s 6s. Seven and 8s can be grouped together and 9s and 10s are their own category. This thread is strictly visual, I dont want some wokester telling me how awful I am, I don't care about personality for this topic.

If 9s and 10s attend these will they willingly fuck an ugly guy and vice versa? In my opinion women are more shallow than men in terms of looks. I've never partaken but always wondered about the dynamic. Also, one person's 10 is another person's 7 and vice versa. The ultimate 10 for me was Farrah Fawcett and some of the TV ladies back in the day, Linda Carter etc.

rgkv · Monday at 5:39 PM

And your point is???

JackBurton · Monday at 5:51 PM

Birf said:
The world is mostly full of average looking people, let's say 4s 5s 6s. Seven and 8s can be grouped together and 9s and 10s are their own category. This thread is strictly visual, I dont want some wokester telling me how awful I am, I don't care about personality for this topic.

If 9s and 10s attend these will they willingly fuck an ugly guy and vice versa? In my opinion women are more shallow than men in terms of looks. I've never partaken but always wondered about the dynamic. Also, one person's 10 is another person's 7 and vice versa. The ultimate 10 for me was Farrah Fawcett and some of the TV ladies back in the day, Linda Carter etc.

BYOB if you want hotness.

Then the hotness index says she will attract other hot girls.

You are gonna have to pay either way. Pick your poison.

squeezer · Monday at 5:55 PM

It's not always about the looks, it's game and some have it and some don't. An average 6 or 7 with game can score a 9 or 10.

You can say the same about pay-to-play. Would you rather bang a starfish 10 who believes she's way too good for you, or a solid 6 and 7 who is into it and at the very least acting like she's having a blast banging your brains off?

rgkv · Monday at 6:03 PM

squeezer said:
or a solid 6 and 7 who is into it and at the very least acting like she's having a blast banging your brains off?

Patron · Monday at 7:35 PM

Aren’t hot female swingers and orgies just a figment of the male imagination? Especially among very young men and guys who fantasize a lot but don’t purchase sex.

Really hot women who like to fuck either get a mate you provides for them (giving them little reason to be promiscuous) or they sell sex and make a damn regular good living or supplemental living from it.

The so-called hedonist clubs in the Carribean require a large payment that includes accommodation and companionship with sex workers from Eastern Europe and the Carribean. For appearance purposes, the guy is assigned a lady, but reports say there is plenty of switching. In the United Kingdom, there is a regular orgy but the payment to join is largely used to compensate the hot women paid to attend.

There are some not so hot looking and/or plus sized women, truly the bottom tier in appearance, who go to Swingers Clubs, often with male partners. Every report I have ever read from a legitimate John who has tried it seemed horrified at what he found.

There really aren’t any free lunches in life. If a good meal at a restaurant costs $10-$15, you ain’t getting the same quality (or anything close to it) at the soup kitchen for the homeless.

Put yourself in the position of a hot girl who likes to fuck. I mean 6 or above. Why the hell would she go to a swingers club, and even be married to someone who would want that?

A guy is better off saving up his money and seeing a good sex worker instead of searching for a mythical unicorn who doesn’t really even exists.

Kurt · Monday at 8:54 PM

Birf said:
The world is mostly full of average looking people, let's say 4s 5s 6s. Seven and 8s can be grouped together and 9s and 10s are their own category. This thread is strictly visual, I dont want some wokester telling me how awful I am, I don't care about personality for this topic.

If 9s and 10s attend these will they willingly fuck an ugly guy and vice versa? In my opinion women are more shallow than men in terms of looks. I've never partaken but always wondered about the dynamic. Also, one person's 10 is another person's 7 and vice versa. The ultimate 10 for me was Farrah Fawcett and some of the TV ladies back in the day, Linda Carter etc.

My GF and have gone to a few "play parties" (two since February) I would say most are 4-6's.
There are a couple of 7's but most are your average soccer moms you see in the grocery store.

We had to meet with the organizers first before we could attend they had to make sure we meet their requirements and we understood the rules.

Birf · Monday at 9:23 PM

Patron said:
Aren’t hot female swingers and orgies just a figment of the male imagination? Especially among very young men and guys who fantasize a lot but don’t purchase sex.

Really hot women who like to fuck either get a mate you provides for them (giving them little reason to be promiscuous) or they sell sex and make a damn regular good living or supplemental living from it.

The so-called hedonist clubs in the Carribean require a large payment that includes accommodation and companionship with sex workers from Eastern Europe and the Carribean. For appearance purposes, the guy is assigned a lady, but reports say there is plenty of switching. In the United Kingdom, there is a regular orgy but the payment to join is largely used to compensate the hot women paid to attend.

There are some not so hot looking and/or plus sized women, truly the bottom tier in appearance, who go to Swingers Clubs, often with male partners. Every report I have ever read from a legitimate John who has tried it seemed horrified at what he found.

There really aren’t any free lunches in life. If a good meal at a restaurant costs $10-$15, you ain’t getting the same quality (or anything close to it) at the soup kitchen for the homeless.

Put yourself in the position of a hot girl who likes to fuck. I mean 6 or above. Why the hell would she go to a swingers club, and even be married to someone who would want that?

A guy is better off saving up his money and seeing a good sex worker instead of searching for a mythical unicorn who doesn’t really even exists.

It happens among the very wealthy, yachting etc. I believe their orgies are off the hook. I didn't know about the sex workers in the Carribean, I thought people just went and whatever happens happens. One review i read said it's mostly ugly people.

Patron · Monday at 10:24 PM

Birf said:
It happens among the very wealthy, yachting etc. I believe their orgies are off the hook. I didn't know about the sex workers in the Carribean, I thought people just went and whatever happens happens. One review i read said it's mostly ugly people.

Are you sure about the wealthy yachters?

When Arnold got elected governor of California, someone mentioned that he might be the first California governor to have participated in an orgy.

He apparently looked bewildered and he was told about an old muscle magazine that said he was the star at an orgy. He said that they just make that shit up to sell magazines and get better ad revenue.

I am sure that publications selling yachts would like everyone to believe it is a never ending party. I suspect that when the yacht docks, the rich old men are checking the review sites for the best sex workers.

One of my favorite reviewers of upper-end Barcelona ladies had a yacht and would take two escorts out sailing at a time. He appeared to be single.

blasian · Monday at 10:35 PM

Patron said:
Aren’t hot female swingers and orgies just a figment of the male imagination? Especially among very young men and guys who fantasize a lot but don’t purchase sex.

Really hot women who like to fuck either get a mate you provides for them (giving them little reason to be promiscuous) or they sell sex and make a damn regular good living or supplemental living from it.

The so-called hedonist clubs in the Carribean require a large payment that includes accommodation and companionship with sex workers from Eastern Europe and the Carribean. For appearance purposes, the guy is assigned a lady, but reports say there is plenty of switching. In the United Kingdom, there is a regular orgy but the payment to join is largely used to compensate the hot women paid to attend.

There are some not so hot looking and/or plus sized women, truly the bottom tier in appearance, who go to Swingers Clubs, often with male partners. Every report I have ever read from a legitimate John who has tried it seemed horrified at what he found.

There really aren’t any free lunches in life. If a good meal at a restaurant costs $10-$15, you ain’t getting the same quality (or anything close to it) at the soup kitchen for the homeless.

Put yourself in the position of a hot girl who likes to fuck. I mean 6 or above. Why the hell would she go to a swingers club, and even be married to someone who would want that?

A guy is better off saving up his money and seeing a good sex worker instead of searching for a mythical unicorn who doesn’t really even exists.

What??? Just about everything you have said is incorrect ugh.

1. check out r/swingers on reddit for much better information.
2. Go to Club M4, Oasis. or X Club in Toronto. The clubs are made up of the full spectrum of looks.
3. Go to playhouse in Las Vegas (requires an application to get in) and you will see very hot people fucking.

Birf · 2025-09-09T17:51:47-0400

Patron said:
Are you sure about the wealthy yachters?

When Arnold got elected governor of California, someone mentioned that he might be the first California governor to have participated in an orgy.

He apparently looked bewildered and he was told about an old muscle magazine that said he was the star at an orgy. He said that they just make that shit up to sell magazines and get better ad revenue.

I am sure that publications selling yachts would like everyone to believe it is a never ending party. I suspect that when the yacht docks, the rich old men are checking the review sites for the best sex workers.

One of my favorite reviewers of upper-end Barcelona ladies had a yacht and would take two escorts out sailing at a time. He appeared to be single.

It's pretty well known about the wealthy people orgies. Maybe it's high end prostitutes they hire or instagram models. It’s also well known what happens in Dubai with the instagram models. Tents are set up in the middle of the desert for their fun, usually with instagram models. These tents are like 5 star hotels.

There's many billionaires we've never heard of, it's not just the big names. They have to leave their phones at the door.

Patron · 2025-09-09T19:26:59-0400

Birf said:
It's pretty well known about the wealthy people orgies. Maybe it's high end prostitutes they hire or instagram models. It’s also well known what happens in Dubai with the instagram models. Tents are set up in the middle of the desert for their fun, usually with instagram models. These tents are like 5 star hotels.

There's many billionaires we've never heard of, it's not just the big names. They have to leave their phones at the door.

Oh I agree with that. It is well known that wealth Arabs have recruiters that bring those ladies in from all over the world, and I suspect the same is true for the clubs in the French Riviera where Prince Randy Andy was regularly seen dancing (and sweating) with women he hooked up with. The money is more quietly done and often done in different mechanisms than the envelope on the table. And it is arranged by people other than the wealthy.

I simply don’t think the regular guy is going to walk into a swingers club and get laid for free from knockout women.

There is always a pervasive belief on these message boards that there is some building around the corner, or dating site, or pick-up line that will get you top-notch pussy for free. I simply think it is a male fantasy supported by old Hollywood movies that is counterproductive.

Sure a long time ago when high school and college women were much more isolated, they gravitated toward the athletes and frat guys regardless of their wealth, but the Internet has changed things. Even very young women now have greater data available to them, their own resources such as an automobile and smartphone, so they have larger choices than just the guys at school.

Bottom line is that if you want pussy, you are best off trying to maximize your earnings as a guy. The rich and their swinging orgies are a perfect example of that. The hot ladies are not there for just fun. They know there are economic opportunities to be had when they are around the wealthy.

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