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If traveling to US, expect phone and laptops to be searched

squeezer

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Any record of visiting terb will most likely be cause for denying entry, and it will appear on your record.
Off topic, but man, it burns my ass when I am in a hotel or even the train and their wifi blocks access to Terb and other adult sites. I used Via Rail one time, and it was the last time. Also, a few hotels I refuse to stay in because of their nanny wi fi.

As for the US, it is a non-issue for now. I've cancelled all trips for at least the next 3 years
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Make sure you don't revert your phone back to factory settings, because if your phone appears too clean it will look even more suspicious
 

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La la land
Crossing the border this weekend first time since Covid 19. Cleared a lot of things. Then I thought why take the cell since I don't have roaming for other countries.
Cleared the picture but girlfriend zones pics on there, they are hot.
 

Butler1000

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Searching your electronic devices is nothing new at the border, any international border really.
In forty years of border crossings on land sea and air I have never even heard of this happening to anyone I know. Now they are not only doing it to foreigners but to American Citizens as well

Fuck em, there are plenty of places in the world on my bucket list, and still some in Canada as well.
 

Butler1000

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Off topic, but man, it burns my ass when I am in a hotel or even the train and their wifi blocks access to Terb and other adult sites. I used Via Rail one time, and it was the last time. Also, a few hotels I refuse to stay in because of their nanny wi fi.

As for the US, it is a non-issue for now. I've cancelled all trips for at least the next 3 years
It's their private wifi. Data is cheap now. Just use your own.
 

squeezer

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It's their private wifi. Data is cheap now. Just use your own.
Yes, that is what I do, but it's the principle. It's my money and yes, they can do what they want with their data, but I can do what I want with my money.
 

bazokajoe

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In forty years of border crossings on land sea and air I have never even heard of this happening to anyone I know. Now they are not only doing it to foreigners but to American Citizens as well

Fuck em, there are plenty of places in the world on my bucket list, and still some in Canada as well.
Neither have I, but it is their right to search it.
 
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silentkisser

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Searching your electronic devices is nothing new at the border, any international border really.
This is true. Border crossings are basically an area without the right to due process. The guards can strip search you, tear your vehicle apart down to the nuts and bolts, and deny you entry for any reason they like.

What is different here is that the US guards are now acting like the thought police and denying entry because someone might disagree with Trump or his idiotic policies.
 

SchlongConery

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Entering the US is a privilege, not a right.
Vice versa is also true when it comes to entering Canada

Keep in mind when you apply for a NEXUS card that USCBP WILL delve into your life much more than any routine border check, inclusing buying your internet history from data brokers. they will ask you what social media sites you use etc. If your statements don't align with their evidence, you will be denied. And I imagine IF your TERB history is known somehow through the data brokers, you will be barred.

So before you apply for Nexus, maybe consider the implications of a DEEP dive into your background. Deeper than an airport agent would. You'd be surprised on the data governments have available to them through PAYING private data collection services for your profile.
 

MRBJX

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Neither have I, but it is their right to search it.
it isn't their right they just made up a law that says they can - it violates your right to privacy but the lame bozos are ok with it so it stands. Rules for thee because thou protest not.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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it isn't their right they just made up a law that says they can - it violates your right to privacy but the lame bozos are ok with it so it stands. Rules for thee because thou protest not.
What choice do we have though??
If you protest too much you're not getting into the country.
Then you've wasted money on a flight, hotel.....etc that you cant ever get back
 
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bazokajoe

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it isn't their right they just made up a law that says they can - it violates your right to privacy but the lame bozos are ok with it so it stands. Rules for thee because thou protest not.
Better educate yourself. I'm sure you won't so I'll give you a head start.
I'm sure most if not all countries have the same laws.


Yes, US border agents can legally search your phone and other electronic devices at the border without needing a warrant or probable cause. This right extends to both citizens and non-citizens. While you can refuse to provide your password, doing so could lead to further scrutiny, detention, or even denial of entry.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Broad Search Powers:
    U.S. border agents have broad authority to inspect electronic devices at the border, including searching the contents of your phone and requesting passwords.

  • No Warrant or Probable Cause Needed:
    Unlike一般的 searches, border agents don't need a warrant or even a reason to suspect wrongdoing to search your phone.

    • Consequences of Refusal:
      While you can refuse to provide your password or unlock your phone, doing so could result in further questioning, detention, or even being denied entry into the country.
    • Canadian Perspective:
      The Canadian government has also warned travelers about the increased scrutiny and search powers of U.S. border agents.
    • Protecting Your Privacy:
      If you are concerned about your privacy, consider taking steps like putting your phone on airplane mode before approaching the border, or using a "burner phone" with limited personal information.
 
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Butler1000

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Keep in mind when you apply for a NEXUS card that USCBP WILL delve into your life much more than any routine border check, inclusing buying your internet history from data brokers. they will ask you what social media sites you use etc. If your statements don't align with their evidence, you will be denied. And I imagine IF your TERB history is known somehow through the data brokers, you will be barred.

So before you apply for Nexus, maybe consider the implications of a DEEP dive into your background. Deeper than an airport agent would. You'd be surprised on the data governments have available to them through PAYING private data collection services for your profile.
Since the new border apps have come out you can bypass lines anyway. Going to the USA before all this bullshit was less than 5 minutes through the line at Pearson customs. Coming home the same. And Britain as well.

I wonder if it's worth it.
 
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