Client Ripping Off A Lady

AsianMonica said:

The first two were regulars, I believe they could see this reviews, yes, they "deliberately" didn't pay, the third one was someone I forgot to charge but I immediately messaged him, but he left without even looking back

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I'm sorry this happened to you, @AsianMonica. As well as Naughty Cougar Lady. These guys are pieces of shit, all of them. No good, honest, lady's kindness deserves to be taken advantage of like this. Either these guys are just garbage human beings or they've been wronged by scammers one too many times and their anger and hatred has become misplaced (which obviously doesn't justify it).

These are probably burner numbers but there's only one way to find out. I agree with @Jenesis that police should be contacted. They may be able to track the cell towers these numbers have pinged off of and find these guys.

RebelinBed said:

I'm sorry this happened to you, @AsianMonica. As well as Naughty Cougar Lady. These guys are pieces of shit, all of them. No good, honest, lady's kindness deserves to be taken advantage of like this. Either these guys are just garbage human beings or they've been wronged by scammers one too many times and their anger and hatred has become misplaced (which obviously doesn't justify it).

These are probably burner numbers but there's only one way to find out. I agree with @Jenesis that police should be contacted. They may be able to track the cell towers these numbers have pinged off of and find these guys.

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Even though they might have been scammed by unscrupulous providers, these ‘men’ do not have the right to rip off the honest and decent ladies.

Never abuse the trust of an honest woman. Never. You are not a man if you do.

shakenbake said:

Even though they might have been scammed by unscrupulous providers, these ‘men’ do not have the right to rip off the honest and decent ladies.

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I agree. I did say it doesn't justify it. Just providing possible logic as to why these pieces of shit could be doing this.

RebelinBed said:

I agree. I did say it doesn't justify it. Just providing possible logic as to why these pieces of shit could be doing this.

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Man shit like this makes my blood boil. Always keep protection of some sort ladies & never accept $ after the fact. Of course nobody wants to go that route but these pos deserve whatever they get.

This is what pisses me off when guys on here say that paying before makes it feel transactional and they will only see ladies who accept money after. Or guys who refuse to pay first because they want to make sure they get the services. When we don’t accept money first - this is what happens.

This guy could have left his wallet in his car and did mean to pay after but when he got to his car he thought “fuck it”.

Now I have guys pay at the end and I have had a few of them leave and then come back to pay because they don’t want to lose the chance to see me again. Having said that, this reminds me to get the money first from everyone.

Jenesis said:

This is what pisses me off when guys on here say that paying before makes it feel transactional and they will only see ladies who accept money after. Or guys who refuse to pay first because they want to make sure they get the services. When we don’t accept money first - this is what happens.

This guy could have left his wallet in his car and did mean to pay after but when he got to his car he thought “fuck it”.

Now I have guys pay at the end and I have had a few of them leave and then come back to pay because they don’t want to lose the chance to see me again. Having said that, this reminds me to get the money first from everyone.

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The good majority suffers for the pos minority. I gladly prepay when requested, especially with ladies I can trust. You, dear jenesis, are a trustworthy lady.

Thumper4U said:

I bet these are burner numbers

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Most likely yes.

I use burner numbers as well as it helps provide me extra protection.
But this is the case where it can be bad for the sp as well.
I am still an advocate of the burner number though because again, it's a very tiny group of ass hats that are the problem and things shouldn't be changed because of the tiny minority.

bob.man said:

Most likely yes.

I use burner numbers as well as it helps provide me extra protection.
But this is the case where it can be bad for the sp as well.
I am still an advocate of the burner number though because again, it's a very tiny group of ass hats that are the problem and things shouldn't be changed because of the tiny minority.

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This is why I don’t accept them. Reporting to the police with a burner number will only allow them to keep the number on file in case he uses the number to rip-off another lady.

There is no way to track the client down from the number. There is no “ping” and track him option for something like this. A murder or terrorist maybe but not for a simple rip-off. However getting contact name and address from the phone company is very doable.

AsianMonica said:

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Sorry to hear this Monica. I hope Karma gets these guys. Have seen Monica many times and she’s a complete sweetheart, anyone doing this is a complete piece of shit.

Jenesis said:

This is what pisses me off when guys on here say that paying before makes it feel transactional and they will only see ladies who accept money after. Or guys who refuse to pay first because they want to make sure they get the services. When we don’t accept money first - this is what happens.

This guy could have left his wallet in his car and did mean to pay after but when he got to his car he thought “fuck it”.

Now I have guys pay at the end and I have had a few of them leave and then come back to pay because they don’t want to lose the chance to see me again. Having said that, this reminds me to get the money first from everyone.

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Completely agree. Never understood why women don’t take the money first or refuse service. This is a business, it is supposed to feel transactional at the beginning. Once that is done I guarantee the session will be more enjoyable as long as the providers are professionals like Monica Candi or Jenesis. If you are going to see a shady provider who asks for money upfront then you may want to debate paying up front. Even still you made the choice to go see her, so it’s on you. But if you are seeing a legit pro then what’s the problem with paying first?

I have been ripped off (once) and learned a lesson the hard way. It was at a shady motel on Kingston Road. I grew up in Scarborough and know the Galloway and the Bluffs area well and knew the accompanying risks of seeing someone in that area. The girl took my money which I paid upfront and told me it’s time to go or she will call her pimp who’s waiting next door. I didn’t argue and agreed to leave as I had a lot more to lose than her and her pimp. $100 I lost was an education I carry to this day. At the same time it didn’t harden me or think less of all the good women who work in this industry for the right seasons without coercion. And even when I meet new girls like Michelle in Peterborough who told me she was ripped off of $500 for an outcall I emphasis to them always always get the money first no matter how much of a good guy or regular he may seem. He can be your best client, but get that money first. If he is a great client he will understand and respect your decision to collect the money first. I hope this doesn’t happen to any more girls.

I reckon it's having the ability to take another person's perspective.
If you don't pay up front, what are you doing? You're creating a mindset in her where she's wondering if you're one of those fuck n run types. Thus she's never going to be able to fully relax and get into the date and thus you end up shooting yourself in the foot cause you likely won't get her top performance.
Remember lads, she doesn't know you from jack shit. And she's likely had a few jackasses in her past. Thus be friendly, drop the envelope, have the shower, use the mouthwash, ask before poking things anywhere, and be respectful of her and you'll have a the best of her. Thus the more you give her confidence, the more she can bring her "A" game.

Those of us who adhere to these rules get treated extra well because of the arseholes out there lol.

AsianMonica said:

The first two were regulars, I believe they could see this reviews, yes, they "deliberately" didn't pay, the third one was someone I forgot to charge but I immediately messaged him, but he left without even looking back

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I would report them to the police.

barrowing said:

She said he gets dressed goes out to where he parked in her driveway, she’s standing outside and he’s fumbling around a bit as if he’s looking For the cash. Then suddenly he backs down her driveway quickly gives her a wave and buggers off.

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Did she get his plate#?

Always cash first.

DesRicardo said:

Did she get his plate#?

Always cash first.

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yep always exchange the cash first whether long time regular or new client -> wasnt that a given? Its supposed to be a transaction here.

As a hobbyist, I never knew before or understood how providers allowed guys to pay after! or tolerated excuses like 'paying before makes it feel transactional or the guys will only see ladies who accept money after, Or refuse to pay first because they want to make sure they get the services. ' these are BS excuses made for providers to be scammed.

You do your research on the provider you want to see and look out for known robbers/ scammers.
The vast majority of good providers would at worst give you bad service YMMV coz of hygiene or bad attitude or some other ick, but never outright rob you since they have a reputation to carry.

It's a bs excuse. It's more likely they think keeping the donation hanging over the sps head during the session thinking it'll get them 'better service'.
Idk I just dont buy it

shakenbake said:

Even though they might have been scammed by unscrupulous providers, these ‘men’ do not have the right to rip off the honest and decent ladies.

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That is not only a rip off. It's a rape. I hope these guys gets ripped off a thousand times or arrested.

BlueEyes87 said:

It's a bs excuse. It's more likely they think keeping the donation hanging over the sps head during the session thinking it'll get them 'better service'.
Idk I just dont buy it

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In all my years of hobbying, I can say that it works both ways. I prepaid and got ripped off more times than I care to remember. There are pos clients and pos providers. Having said that, we must always act in an honourable way, and take our chances. Never rip off a good provider. Do your homework and see reputable providers. Shame on those who ripped off one of my atf’s; Monica. She never deserved to be ripped off; she has a heart and soul of gold.

shakenbake said:

In all my years of hobbying, I can say that it works both ways. I prepaid and got ripped off more times than I care to remember. There are pos clients and pos providers. Having said that, we must always act in an honourable way, and take our chances. Never rip off a good provider. Do your homework and see reputable providers. Shame on those who ripped off one of my atf’s; Monica. She never deserved to be ripped off; she has a heart and soul of gold.

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not trying to be confrontational or anything, but I thought all reputed providers had you hand over the donation first.
In all my years in Ottawa and then Toronto, it is the norm, but again thats big city can't trust anybody vibes. They'd tell you to leave.
I dont think you could pull off that stunt (handing donations after the session) in Toronto/ Ottawa, is hella surprising here!