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silentkisser

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Carney and the Liberal propaganda machine has convinced you that he is some kind of wizard and will miraculously make things better.
But almost every day, he proves that he doesn't know what he's doing other than appeasing the US.

If Poilievre had won the election and then immediately removed all the retaliatory tariffs, you guys would be burning cars in the streets over the outrage.
But Carney does it, and it's "I'm sure they have a plan"?

That's funny!
LOL....Liberal propaganda machine like the nations largest newspaper chain....or CTV & Global, which are both fairly right leaning...You say things like that and you lose all credibility for whatever follows...And, as I go on to the next sentence, you just prove you have no idea what you're talking about...
 

Lenny59

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Canadians got duped into thinking new Carney Liberals would be different from corrupt, incompetent and traitorous old Trudeau Liberals. How dumb can they be? Lipstick on a pig.
 
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Skoob

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I thought Carney was going to retaliate after Trump increased to %50. He was supposed to talk to him and then nothing
Carney is doing exactly what Trump has told him to do. i.e. be a good dog

Elbows up!!!
 

Skoob

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LOL....Liberal propaganda machine like the nations largest newspaper chain....or CTV & Global, which are both fairly right leaning...You say things like that and you lose all credibility for whatever follows...And, as I go on to the next sentence, you just prove you have no idea what you're talking about...
That sounds like someone who didn't consider what I said and suddenly came to the realization that I made a good point but needs to immediately refer to something I didn't mention to attempt to discredit me.

btw The "Liberal propaganda machine" I was referring to is the Liberal party. Why would you think I was referring to media outlets? They just echo what a party promotes.

The Liberal propaganda machine makes you believe they are going to do something, but they don't. But by that time, you've already been suckered but won't admit it.

Elbows up! Retaliatory tariffs gone! hahaha
 
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DesRicardo

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First, I'm sure the other parties don't like him, especially PP and the Cons who are all butt hurt over the fact they had a guaranteed majority government back in January but could seal the deal due to their own ineptitude...

The clock is moving, but what you're not hearing, probably due to tight message control, is what is happening with the negotiations with the Americans. Like it or not, they remain our largest trading partner, and while we'd all love to diversify, that isn't something that will happen overnight. If you think this is Carney capitulating to Trump, then you're obviously out to lunch or a super partisan.
Cold Feet Carney lied to you in your face. You got suckered.


This aged like milk.
 

the general

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No I said that Canada engaging in fiscal responsibility while all our major partners do not is folly and has no real benefit as we will not escape the consequences of the reckoning...when it comes.
Did Canada get impacted during the Great Recession the same as many of its major partners?

Clue - No

Reason - because Canada followed more prudent standards for Financial Institutions.

So, while you may be impacted, the severity won't be the same if you were fiscally prudent.

You need to use history to help with your logic, but guess that wouldn't align with your desired outcome, so ignore.
 

the general

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Oh, I have one for you, too. enjoy!

Canada to expedite nation building projects to counter Trump

Looks like Carney is doing a great job unless you're a MAGA hard-core rightie who just likes to spout off negativity without facts, but no, not you. I know you embrace facts, so enjoy the reading material I've provided.

ps..would you like a cup of warm tears to sip on while reading???
At this time, all talk, no action. Time will tell, but talk is easy.
 

the general

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New PM, new circumstances. I guess I shouldn't be shocked that you fail to understand that. I mean, did you get all pissy when Harper took more than six months to table his first budget? He was in similar circumstances with a minority government, but not an unhinged cult leader heading our largest trading partner. And, as I said, I doubt PP, despite all his pissing and moaning right now, would be so quick to put out a budget.
Excuse #327. Don't forget initially Con Carney wasn't even go to put out a budget this year at all, only a fiscal update, but got pressured to at least do a budget this year. New PM, same old tired Liberal party, they had a plan, Carney will only mildly influence it. And Con Carney was giving advise, so not like he didn't already infuence fiscal planning. But continue with the excuses, if it makes you feel better. We know you are all about feelings.
 

the general

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You came up with a vague list where his role is uncertain and the policies did nothing.
Claiming those as the successes of a 20 year career in politics is pathetic.

Thinking this guy can do anything after 2 decades of wasting taxpayer money is ridiculous.

Carney has done more in a couple of months that PeePee has ever done.
How's that going for Canada so far?

 

DesRicardo

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First, I'm sure the other parties don't like him, especially PP and the Cons who are all butt hurt over the fact they had a guaranteed majority government back in January but could seal the deal due to their own ineptitude...
And this comment here shows your ignorance.

I don't think you understand how close Carney is to a no-confidence vote in 2026.
 

silentkisser

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And this comment here shows your ignorance.

I don't think you understand how close Carney is to a no-confidence vote in 2026.
Of course he is. By 2026 the other parties will have new leaders (or at least leaders who theoretically have seats in the house) and they will be itching to pull the trigger. That's how minority governments work. You're probably too young to remember this, but PC leader Joe Clark had his minority government (that won in May) get toppled in December by the defeat of his budget. Now, will that happen to Carney? Probably not. But, on average, a minority government lasts about 18 months, so I think we can all expect to see another election in 2026 or early 2027.

BUT....here's the thing: Do you think the NDP/Bloc or Greens want to trigger a new vote that quickly? Sure, they might believe they could win more seats and want to take advantage. But, there is also the horrible reality that Carney might actually do a great job, and triggering an election might give him a solid mandate, so they will delay for a bit longer. Or, will Carney just dissolve parliament to to get that majority. Harper did that back in the day.

The point here, is that while the right will shit of Carney for literally anything right now, most Canadians aren't that partisan and are willing to see what he accomplishes. I mean, just today he unveiled his plan to fast-track projects cabinet deems to be in the national interest. Does this mean Alberta gets its long-wanted pipeline to the coasts? Yeah, I think it does. Does this change how Alberta and Saskatchewan votes? Maybe (probably not).
 

nottyboi

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Did Canada get impacted during the Great Recession the same as many of its major partners?

Clue - No

Reason - because Canada followed more prudent standards for Financial Institutions.

So, while you may be impacted, the severity won't be the same if you were fiscally prudent.

You need to use history to help with your logic, but guess that wouldn't align with your desired outcome, so ignore.
Not really, the banks did not invest in the US trash bonds, but the govt still purchased billions in mortages from the banks to ensure liquidity. Many nations were much less impacted, China and India were among the least affected,. S Korea as well. But it had little to do with debt levels and more to do with a resilient banking sector.
 

the general

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Not really, the banks did not invest in the US trash bonds, but the govt still purchased billions in mortages from the banks to ensure liquidity. Many nations were much less impacted, China and India were among the least affected,. S Korea as well. But it had little to do with debt levels and more to do with a resilient banking sector.
Yes, liquidity was provided both by the government and the Bank of Canada, as the markets became illiquid. But you missed the point, basically it is okay to not follow the lead of your peers, just because you are going to get impacted anyways. LCR and bank leverage in Canada was much lower due to regulatory requirements. Also, lending practices were more strict in Canada. So, it is a good thing not to follow your peers, as you will be less impacted in a stress event. Just like being fiscally prudent would be good to lead, rather than follow, something you seem to think is crazy.
 

DesRicardo

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Of course he is. By 2026 the other parties will have new leaders (or at least leaders who theoretically have seats in the house) and they will be itching to pull the trigger. That's how minority governments work. You're probably too young to remember this, but PC leader Joe Clark had his minority government (that won in May) get toppled in December by the defeat of his budget. Now, will that happen to Carney? Probably not. But, on average, a minority government lasts about 18 months, so I think we can all expect to see another election in 2026 or early 2027.

BUT....here's the thing: Do you think the NDP/Bloc or Greens want to trigger a new vote that quickly? Sure, they might believe they could win more seats and want to take advantage. But, there is also the horrible reality that Carney might actually do a great job, and triggering an election might give him a solid mandate, so they will delay for a bit longer. Or, will Carney just dissolve parliament to to get that majority. Harper did that back in the day.

The point here, is that while the right will shit of Carney for literally anything right now, most Canadians aren't that partisan and are willing to see what he accomplishes. I mean, just today he unveiled his plan to fast-track projects cabinet deems to be in the national interest. Does this mean Alberta gets its long-wanted pipeline to the coasts? Yeah, I think it does. Does this change how Alberta and Saskatchewan votes? Maybe (probably not).
Do you think the NDP/Bloc or Greens want to trigger a new vote that quickly?
uhhh, Yeah. They have lost many seats and would do anything to get some back if that opportunity comes. Jagmeet Singh isn't here to save you guys anymore.

most Canadians aren't that partisan and are willing to see what he accomplishes.
I beg to differ. Look at the total vote share, the seats and the close riding races. Plus this is now a parliament discussion and you don't have the majority.
Right now Carney is a clean slate, but give it time. Let's see what he looks like when that new shine wears off and he looks a little dirty.


Overall, you're whole post is why I call you ignorant. You're not actually looking at what's really happening. Carney can "unveil" all the BS he wants, it doesn't matter. This is a lot farther away than he's leading on.

 
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Insidious Von

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Wildfires eating through Western Canada and Northern Ontario, LaRue must be on the front lines valiantly battling them. Here's the latest from The Barking Chihuahua.

 

Gooseifur

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I sort of understand why the new government isn't rushing with a budget right now. There is just too much uncertainty with Trump and the global economy. I think Carney is playing it close to the vest right now because he could make a deal with the US and mitigate and pain the economy is feeling right now, and might not require additional support later this year.

That being said, I think it is cute how the right are straight out of the gate slamming everything Carney does or doesn't do. No grace period or recognition that the we're in unprecedented times, with the TACO king running our largest trading partner. I would put money on things right now that PP probably wouldn't rush into a budget right now if the roles were reversed, because all he would do is axe social programs or try to introduce a Canadian DOGE....and, we all know how successful that's been in the US....

Let's just settle down, give this new government a chance to shine or shit the bed. Let's face it, both scenarios are possible, as is a mushy middle. And, to be honest, I would say the same thing if PP had a minority government today.
You mean similar to Trump when won and within a week the Dems were asking why the price of eggs hasn't dropped?
 
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