What would you charge?

Clients, if u were SW & could choose for roughly the same income, what would u charge (pls add why):

  • Low rates and work high volume

    Votes: 4 5.9%
  • Below market rates and work higher volume

    Votes: 6 8.8%
  • Market rates and work steadily

    Votes: 32 47.1%
  • Higher than market rates and work lower volume

    Votes: 34 50.0%
  • High rates and work low volume

    Votes: 7 10.3%
  • The highest rates and work very low volume

    Votes: 5 7.4%

  • Total voters
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Bigbigguy

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Clients, I’m curious about your opinions! What would you do and why, two choices allowed ☺
Without having an understanding on what it is like to deal with the various client personalities & attitudes - my thoughts are

- market rate & work frequently to build a good reputation
- then increase prices a bit & scale back availability
 

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Without having an understanding on what it is like to deal with the various client personalities & attitudes - my thoughts are

- market rate & work frequently to build a good reputation
- then increase prices a bit & scale back availability
Interesting! Most of us started at low or below market rates. I wish I had of had this confidence ❤☺
 

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The poll results are going to be very misleading. The key drivers are going to be living expenses such as mortgage/rent, groceries, entertainment, chosen lifestyle such as traveling, and objectives such as tuition, saving to buy a home or a car, pay off debts or help a loved one Without any doubt these will be the key drivers. Rates and volume will be set accordingly.
 

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In business (and as with sex work, likely) the closer you get to the bottom price-wise, you more you scrape the bottom of the barrel, client-wise.

So that rules out the first tier (low rates/high volume). Which tier is best after that depends on a variety of factors. 🤓
 

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The poll results are going to be very misleading. The key drivers are going to be living expenses such as mortgage/rent, groceries, entertainment, chosen lifestyle such as traveling, and objectives such as tuition, saving to buy a home or a car, pay off debts or help a loved one Without any doubt these will be the key drivers. Rates and volume will be set accordingly.
It’s not science but to create a conversation.

So true that needs do drive rates and rates should never be shamed! All are valid, people need to pay the bills.

It’s interesting though and maybe leaning towards unjust that this is such a big factor for SWs when in other industries we have a pretty good sense of what workers/service rates are and should be. I would never want other workers to set rates based on struggling with rising inflation or government programs being cut for example but unfortunately this is what happens. Something to think about!

Do you think other workers in Canada should lower rates & wages to make ends meet? Should SWs lower rates or feel the need to post lower rates because we’re struggling?
 

FLaPenna

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It’s not science but to create a conversation.

So true that needs do drive rates and rates should never be shamed! All are valid, people need to pay the bills.

It’s interesting though and maybe leaning towards unjust that this is such a big factor for SWs when in other industries we have a pretty good sense of what workers/service rates are and should be. I would never want other workers to set rates based on struggling with rising inflation or government programs being cut for example but unfortunately this is what happens. Something to think about!

Do you think other workers in Canada should lower rates & wages to make ends meet? Should SWs lower rates or feel the need to post lower rates because we’re struggling?
Of course SWs who are struggling shouldn’t automatically lower rates. They have the options listed in the poll available to them.
Why would you jump to that conclusion?
 

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In business (and as with sex work, likely) the closer you get to the bottom price-wise, you more you scrape the bottom of the barrel, client-wise.

So that rules out the first tier (low rates/high volume). Which tier is best after that depends on a variety of factors. 🤓
Interesting point. And I can say from both a civie business and SW there is a general truth to this. Big clients put more on the table in both cases and hope to hit big targets without nitpicking small stuff. But this isn’t universal and worth mentioning many gents do understand & appreciate when they’re getting a remarkable experience for a reasonable fee and that there are many incredible gents on a limited budget who treat us like absolute queens. With much gratitude for you special gents.
 

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But this isn’t universal ...
For sure! I am of course speaking in generalities. For me it's a matter of whether my client (business-wise, not sex-wise) trusts me to do the job without being managed. In general the lower your price goes the people who would trust you to do that tend to self-select out. I am sure there's a parallel to that for SPs.
 
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Bigbigguy

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Interesting! Most of us started at low or below market rates. I wish I had of had this confidence ❤☺
In my opinion, any business needs a good reputation to be able to charge above market rates - therefore working & advertising a lot gets you noticed while charging market rates will show you are in line with others, so new clients will not be scared away & take a chance…. Good service spreads good reviews & that on top of all the ads gets attention thus building your reputation, ultimately allowing for premium pricing. The formula isn’t a secret & works for most businesses but obviously it is not the only way to be successful.

As mentioned by others, many outside influences can affect the plan & cause adjustments - such as rent or tuition, food insecurity, etc…. These outside influences are not only in SW.

I have a business in the construction industry and we adjust like any other business. We started out lower $ than average to get noticed and then raised to market rates. Problem is we stayed low too long - much longer than we had to….. that confidence you mentioned isn’t just in SW.

When we are busy our rates tend to go up and we make higher margins. When the volume of work starts to slow and we are concerned about keeping everyone working the rates drop to win some contracts.

Better to eat kraft dinner today so I can keep going & make the filet mignon.$ tomorrow
 

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In my opinion, any business needs a good reputation to be able to charge above market rates - therefore working & advertising a lot gets you noticed while charging market rates will show you are in line with others, so new clients will not be scared away & take a chance…. Good service spreads good reviews & that on top of all the ads gets attention thus building your reputation, ultimately allowing for premium pricing. The formula isn’t a secret & works for most businesses but obviously it is not the only way to be successful.

As mentioned by others, many outside influences can affect the plan & cause adjustments - such as rent or tuition, food insecurity, etc…. These outside influences are not only in SW.

I have a business in the construction industry and we adjust like any other business. We started out lower $ than average to get noticed and then raised to market rates. Problem is we stayed low too long - much longer than we had to….. that confidence you mentioned isn’t just in SW.

When we are busy our rates tend to go up and we make higher margins. When the volume of work starts to slow and we are concerned about keeping everyone working the rates drop to win some contracts.

Better to eat kraft dinner today so I can keep going & make the filet mignon.$ tomorrow
You guys are bringing the comments and opinions. Nice, keep it coming!
 

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Can someone articulate what in their view is a basic burger? A burger and fries? A steak? AAA steak? Is there a meeting of the minds anywhere between customers and providers? Can we come to any common understandings around rates for services? Please feel free to create a new anonymous account to post what you want. No judgement! 🤗
 
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itd131

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Clients, I’m curious about your opinions! What would you charge and why, two choices allowed ☺
To answer the original question - if the income is the same then I would choose to work as little as possible. More free time for myself and other pursuits. In practice, I imagine there are many other factors to consider, however.

Also, your list doesn't include an option like "charge different rates" which is very common.
 
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Well Ruby, I think the individual should charge what they want first of all. They will know if they are in the right price range for their time and services being offered base on demand. If demand is high.....always raise your prices, demand low.....you could lower your prices or keep them as they are depending on what your income level needs to be at for now and future. I don't see any pension plans for Ladies, so they must not just look to the now expenses but also putting money away for the future. Ruby I do not know how long you have been seeing people but, I do not see a problem with the individual putting up their rates if they feel they can. I would normally think for me....I would start out at rock bottom as my experience is very low....but based on demand and supply maybe slowly raise my rates per hour.
HB69......was here?!?!?!
 

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In both stable/weak economies, I think a balanced business model (Market rates and work steadily) will serve an SP well. It helps maintain a steady cash-flow.
The SW may attract more clientelle if they are seen as relatively affordable and provide good value - that builds good will. Build a healthy client-base to cushion a down-turn.

When the economy tanks and inflation spikes, people think twice on their discretionary spending. Big ticket, short-term gratification luxuries moves down a notch or two on the list of priorites. Business drops away as a result. Using the same business model - If the SW correctly adjusts and tempers their expectations for market conditions, some of the client base may still choose to spend money. Having a large client base increases the odds. The SW works steadily (possibly at a reduced rate) but maintains a steady cash-flow (I hope).
 
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I would make sure to work at a well-respected location/spa, where things default to market value and that offer more access to steady work by benefiting from their reach and established clientele. This provides some safety (physically and financially) and opportunity to build a strong stable of repeat clients. The sacrifice is that I’d have some obligations to them in terms of scheduling, and be splitting my earnings with them. I’m borrowing from an established reputation to build my own and selectively building rapport with clients I vibe with.

All this to eventually go Indy on my own accord where I control my schedule/screening, and hopefully have less overhead leading to more $ directly into my pockets. I might even look to maintain good relationships with the location/spa so I can still go there occasionally to meet new potential clients. At this point, I might raise my prices just a tad, or feel it out because my regulars might compensate with generosity on their own accord without me needing to hike up prices.

Now, I can work steadily at my leisure, and slow it down when I feel like I need it and can afford to.

Obviously there’s a lot of variables at play, and I’m making a lot of assumptions of things working out as intended. However this feels like a good approach if I were in these shoes, as someone who values safety, authentic relationships, and autonomy (in that order).
 
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Great post & poll Ruby
I'm a firm believer that a SP can charge as they want, as it is their body & personal space. Just as clients pay to see who they want within their budget. The SP also have the right to set certain conditions, rates or restrictions to their comfort level when seeing clients. As long as these are fully clear in their advt or in messages before agreeing to meet someone. As I mentioned in another post a few months back, I was booked to see a SP whom I've never seen, but had great reviews & posts here on occasion, but not a paid advtr, I txted about 2hrs before as requested to confirm. Once confirmed time & location, I confirmed her rate, only to find it jumped $50 from what was posted. She forgot to update her posted rates. That was my chance to agree to the increase or cancel. I chose to cancel. We both remained respectful in our messages & yes, I hope to see her on her next tour, as her rate is within my budget. I just did not like the last minute change. Clients need to be respectful of this, as they can choose to follow these or move on. I see no point in complaining about a SP who opening posts requiring certain conditions or actions before getting intimate with someone they've never met. I never schedule time with a SP who does not advt on Terb or at least have multiple platforms that I can see + reviews on Terb. I have chosen to send a deposit to a select few SPs. Now that I'm retired, I have a budget I can play with. A couple of regulars have now priced themselves out of my normal budget. However, when funds allow, I would & have quickly book them again. SP costs have greatly risen in the past few years, if they are paying for hotel rooms in decent or nice places $$$$, transportation costs, having a 2nd place to partake or sharing a spot with another SP you trust, staying healthy, pampered, testing, etc. are all costs that some clients fail to think about. As I age, I now prefer seeing a SP who is over 30, 40 or 50. I find they know what they like, enjoy & in many cases are doing this not as their sole income. I've been at this hobby for many years & started out when prices where well under $200hr. Now, my budget is up to 350hr, but prefer to book 90mins with a trusted SP I've seen many times & have developed a connection with. Every once in a while an interactive duo as well, knowing that will take funds away from seeing her an extra time. Yes, I've spent $400 for someone I've seen many times before when their fees were less, but that have slowed now that I'm retired. I do spend up to $600 for a duo or longer session but not sure I'd spend $500-600 to see a SP for 1hr even if she is well reviewed.
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Great post & poll Ruby
I'm a firm believer that a SP can charge as they want, as it is their body & personal space. Just as clients pay to see who they want within their budget. The SP also have the right to set certain conditions, rates or restrictions to their comfort level when seeing clients. As long as these are fully clear in their advt or in messages before agreeing to meet someone. As I mentioned in another post a few months back, I was booked to see a SP whom I've never seen, but had great reviews & posts here on occasion, but not a paid advtr, I txted about 2hrs before as requested to confirm. Once confirmed time & location, I confirmed her rate, only to find it jumped $50 from what was posted. She forgot to update her posted rates. That was my chance to agree to the increase or cancel. I chose to cancel. We both remained respectful in our messages & yes, I hope to see her on her next tour, as her rate is within my budget. I just did not like the last minute change. Clients need to be respectful of this, as they can choose to follow these or move on. I see no point in complaining about a SP who opening posts requiring certain conditions or actions before getting intimate with someone they've never met. I never schedule time with a SP who does not advt on Terb or at least have multiple platforms that I can see + reviews on Terb. I have chosen to send a deposit to a select few SPs. Now that I'm retired, I have a budget I can play with. A couple of regulars have now priced themselves out of my normal budget. However, when funds allow, I would & have quickly book them again. SP costs have greatly risen in the past few years, if they are paying for hotel rooms in decent or nice places $$$$, transportation costs, having a 2nd place to partake or sharing a spot with another SP you trust, staying healthy, pampered, testing, etc. are all costs that some clients fail to think about. As I age, I now prefer seeing a SP who is over 30, 40 or 50. I find they know what they like, enjoy & in many cases are doing this not as their sole income. I've been at this hobby for many years & started out when prices where well under $200hr. Now, my budget is up to 350hr, but prefer to book 90mins with a trusted SP I've seen many times & have developed a connection with. Every once in a while an interactive duo as well, knowing that will take funds away from seeing her an extra time. Yes, I've spent $400 for someone I've seen many times before when their fees were less, but that have slowed now that I'm retired. I do spend up to $600 for a duo or longer session but not sure I'd spend $500-600 to see a SP for 1hr even if she is well reviewed.
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I think you’ve made a good point here and one that I’ve read on the forums before. Transparency and honesty seem to impact how fees are perceived regardless of what they are. And I’ve also heard from clients that, especially with extended and experience type dates, they don’t like upcharges for every little thing.

Just curious about your last point. Is your hourly limit driven more by your budget or your perception of what fees should be? Also, do you ever book multiple hours or just one hour?
 

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Can someone articulate what in their view is a basic burger? A burger and fries? A steak? AAA steak? Is there a meeting of the minds anywhere between customers and providers? Can we come to any common understandings around rates for services? Please feel free to create a new anonymous account to post what you want. No judgement! 🤗
With your burger/steak analogy, there is a correlation between product, price and experience. A McD’s burger is a low cost burger with nothing fancy. A burger from the Works costs more but has more to it and the environment inside the restaurant is more of an experience then McD. Go for a steak at the Keg, higher price, but a more fancy meal.
With a provider, finding a correlation between product is more difficult track. But, it would be fair to think that the higher the price point, the higher quality of service.
 
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