Leaked Canadian military report shows many new recruits are quickly leaving

squeezer

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I think we Terbies should join! We can be the special CYOPS called J&H Platoon ( John and Hooker platoon) and give the marines a run for their money!!!!!
 

seanzo

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The Canadian military is in shambles. Their staffing crisis goes far beyond what is publicly admitted by the government. According to an old friend from high school who just left, the Canadian Army can't even field a full strength brigade of 5000 men. Based on what I was told, even if they pressed support staff into line infantry battalions the equipment needed either doesn't exist because it was given away to Ukraine or is in such disrepair it can't be used.
 

nottyboi

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Who wants to go spend years at CFB Buttfuck nowhere. I was once interested in the pilot officer program, but what are your choices? Only half decent Canadian forces air wing is in Comox BC. other then that Cold lake AB? Bagotville? fuck that.
 

seanzo

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So essentially a paper tiger.
I think that's honestly giving the armed forces too much credit. At least with a paper tiger there is some ambiguity to how well it would perform in combat. The CAF is more like an old beat up pickup truck that's been left in the front yard for three decades and has a tree growing out of its engine block
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The Canadian military is in shambles. Their staffing crisis goes far beyond what is publicly admitted by the government. According to an old friend from high school who just left, the Canadian Army can't even field a full strength brigade of 5000 men. Based on what I was told, even if they pressed support staff into line infantry battalions the equipment needed either doesn't exist because it was given away to Ukraine or is in such disrepair it can't be used.
So essentially a paper tiger.
More like a house cat. lmao.
The total size of the army is 20000 people.
I am surprised we can even field 5000 people per seanzo's post here.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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It's not wrong but we all know he won't.
Well, I guess time will tell.
Any incremental change forward is good.
We should really push our domestic defence manufacturing and collaborate with EU.
Enough with depending on the US for our weapons.
 

nottyboi

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Building the Canadian military to be some sorta mini USA military is a waste of money. It should be purely defensive. We should rely extensively on drones and missile, and maritime patrol planes. We should also build a couple of large logistics support ships for peacetime use that can operate CH-47s, These should be lightly armed and have medical facilities, cargo etc, to cover national and international emergencies. IF we are serious about the arctic, we need to build some serious ice breakers, not the toys we currently have, or lease them from Russia as no one else builds ice breakers equal to Russia
 

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The Canadian military is in shambles. Their staffing crisis goes far beyond what is publicly admitted by the government. According to an old friend from high school who just left, the Canadian Army can't even field a full strength brigade of 5000 men. Based on what I was told, even if they pressed support staff into line infantry battalions the equipment needed either doesn't exist because it was given away to Ukraine or is in such disrepair it can't be used.
Its time to hire a bunch of gamers out of high school and turn the Canadian army into drone operators.
That's the way of the future.
 

canada-man

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seanzo

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So the worlds second largest land mass is essentially undefended and at the mercy of countries with a fully functioning military. That's a chilling thought. I probably shouldn't watch Red Dawn right now.:ROFLMAO:
In a word, yes. Fortunately I don't see any serious threats to Canada as of right now but God help us if one does appear

Its time to hire a bunch of gamers out of high school and turn the Canadian army into drone operators.
That's the way of the future.
If there's anything you can learn from the war in Ukraine it's that combined arms is still very much how modern armies win wars. Drones have been used to the point of absurdity by both sides and as a result increasingly effective counter measures are being turned out to jam or otherwise neutralize drones. So much so that the latest developments in drone warfare are revolving around use of fiber optic cables to prevent signal jamming. They are unfortunately not the wonder waffen people would like them to be and basing your entire defense strategy on a technology that can be reliably countered is a recipe for disaster. Every modern army is going to use them but the good ones won't be entirely reliant on them.

Building the Canadian military to be some sorta mini USA military is a waste of money. It should be purely defensive. We should rely extensively on drones and missile, and maritime patrol planes. We should also build a couple of large logistics support ships for peacetime use that can operate CH-47s, These should be lightly armed and have medical facilities, cargo etc, to cover national and international emergencies. IF we are serious about the arctic, we need to build some serious ice breakers, not the toys we currently have, or lease them from Russia as no one else builds ice breakers equal to Russia
I think the nation as a whole needs to think long and hard about what the CAF is going to do looking out into the future and how much we are willing to spend on it. It's clear that the existing cold war era force structure isn't going to work but massively expanding the size and role of the CAF is going to face almost insurmountable head winds.

For starters the industrial base to support such expansion simply doesn't exist and even if it did exist there are no companies developing made in Canada weapons and technology at scale. Munitions are a whole other headache to have to deal with because, as we've seen in Ukraine, the side who can't produce enough bullets and shells and missiles is going to loose. Are we really prepared to spend hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars setting up, running and maintaining munitions plants?

I'm not so sure that's something the nation would be willing to stomach under current circumstances.
 

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Let them leave. Trudeau already gave away billions to Ukraine so our
military don't need recruits to fight the Russians.
 
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