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Frankfooter

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Google Mizrahi Jews. Many of them are the descendants of the million Jews ethnically cleansed from Arab/Muslim states in the 1950's.

But I'm sure that your 'concern' about Arabs won't extend to Jewish Arabs.
You mean immigrants?
Zionist immigrants trying to ethnically cleanse the native population?

You think half of Israeli Jews are not Israeli, but immigrants?
 

basketcase

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You mean immigrants?
Zionist immigrants trying to ethnically cleanse the native population?

You think half of Israeli Jews are not Israeli, but immigrants?
Look at Franky suddenly pushing anti-immigrant conspiracy theories when it comes to Jews. The Klan types push the exact same trash about non-Christian, non-white immigrants.

And yes, around half of Israeli Jews are just as Arab as Palestinians.
 

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I did. It was directly in Hamas' publication - "Our Narrative". Here is how they conclude the section, after they provide reasons for October 7.

Proceeding from the above, Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on Oct. 7 was a necessary step and a normal response to confront all Israeli conspiracies against the Palestinian people and their cause. It was a defensive act in the frame of getting rid of the Israeli occupation, reclaiming the Palestinian rights and on the way for liberation and independence like all peoples around the world did.
Yes, even in their western-facing propaganda, they admit their goal is the elimination of Israel.

pretty pathetic you swallow their load when even their leaders say otherwise.
 

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Yes, even in their western-facing propaganda, they admit their goal is the elimination of Israel.

pretty pathetic you swallow their load when even their leaders say otherwise.
Getting rid of Israeli occupation and liberation of Palestinians is not elimination of Israel. That you say that it is, is an admission of support for genocide of the Palestinians. Now that is pathetic. And malicious.
 
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Look at Franky suddenly pushing anti-immigrant conspiracy theories when it comes to Jews. The Klan types push the exact same trash about non-Christian, non-white immigrants.

And yes, around half of Israeli Jews are just as Arab as Palestinians.
Zionism is a colonial movement. Netanyahu is Polish.
Now you're saying fully half of Israeli Jews aren't Israeli, but foreign colonists there to steal Palestinian land.

 

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Yes, even in their western-facing propaganda, they admit their goal is the elimination of Israel.

pretty pathetic you swallow their load when even their leaders say otherwise.
Like the way Israel has eliminated Palestine?
So you think zionists are just like Hamas?

But you back them, even though you think they have the same genocidal goals?

 

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Getting rid of Israeli occupation and liberation of Palestinians is not elimination of Israel. That you say that it is, is an admission of support for genocide of the Palestinians. Now that is pathetic. And malicious.
So "the River to the Sea" that you celebrate doesn't mean a Palestinians state from the river to the Sea? Palestinian leadership, especially Hamas, saying their goal is the "liberation" of all of historic Palestine really means they don't want Israel gone?
 

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Zionism is a colonial movement. Netanyahu is Polish.
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Canada is a colonial movement which you take no issue with.

Jews have a historic connection, a religious connection and essentially continuous existence in Israel and half of Israeli jews are indigenous Arabs. You are simply showing you have an issue with jews and all your pretense of equal rights doesn't apply to them.
 

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So "the River to the Sea" that you celebrate doesn't mean a Palestinians state from the river to the Sea? Palestinian leadership, especially Hamas, saying their goal is the "liberation" of all of historic Palestine really means they don't want Israel gone?
It means Palestinian freedom from the river to the sea. Liberating the Palestinian people does not mean destroying the Israeli state. It essentially should be seen in light of Hamas' demands to go back to the 67 borders to form a Palestinian state in a 2 state solution.
 

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Like the way Israel has eliminated Palestine?
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This is one of your stupidest lines.

The UN is clear that since Arab and Palestinian leaders rejected Partition, the only way forward is a negotiated peace. Until Palestinian leadership give up on their dream of destroying Israel and choose negotiation, there will be no Palestinian state.

No matter how much you demean Palestinians, their agreement is needed for any peace to be real.
 

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It means Palestinian freedom from the river to the sea. Liberating the Palestinian people does not mean destroying the Israeli state. It essentially should be seen in light of Hamas' demands to go back to the 67 borders to form a Palestinian state in a 2 state solution.
Not according to Palestinians.
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But thankfully for them, they have people like you and Franky to tell them how to live. You really learned a lot from the Brits in India.
 

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So "the River to the Sea" that you celebrate doesn't mean a Palestinians state from the river to the Sea? Palestinian leadership, especially Hamas, saying their goal is the "liberation" of all of historic Palestine really means they don't want Israel gone?
No, basketcase, it means Palestinians want to be free within the area defined as from 'the river to the sea'.
It doesn't mean they are at war to take all of that land, that's you confusing your zionist, colonial views with everyone else in the world.
Its only zionists that also use 'river to the sea' but have actually stolen all of Palestine and wiped it off the map.
Now they are doing the next step, wiping Palestinians themselves off the map.



 

Frankfooter

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This is one of your stupidest lines.

The UN is clear that since Arab and Palestinian leaders rejected Partition, the only way forward is a negotiated peace. Until Palestinian leadership give up on their dream of destroying Israel and choose negotiation, there will be no Palestinian state.

No matter how much you demean Palestinians, their agreement is needed for any peace to be real.
You're using the wife beater's defence and trying to claim that Palestinians made zionists occupy them, steal their land, implement apartheid and commit genocide.

You need to own your own zionist goals, you need to come clean and say you want Israel to take all of Palestine and you support wiping Palestinians as well off the map.
 

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Not according to Palestinians.
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But thankfully for them, they have people like you and Franky to tell them how to live. You really learned a lot from the Brits in India.
You support zionism, colonialism, racism, an illegal occupation, apartheid and now genocide.
STFU about declaring you know what Palestinians want.
Its disgusting.



 

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You're using the wife beater's defence and trying to claim that Palestinians made zionists occupy them, steal their land, implement apartheid and commit genocide.

You need to own your own zionist goals, you need to come clean and say you want Israel to take all of Palestine and you support wiping Palestinians as well off the map.
You're saying all Palestinians are wife beaters now? That's pretty racist. But i guess you have no other response to the reality I challenged you with.
 

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No, basketcase, it means Palestinians want to be free within the area defined as from 'the river to the sea'.
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And according to the poll I posted, they (at least 75% of them) mean one without Jews. you must hate it when the Palestinians actually speak out against your desires.

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Only 5% want hat you want them forced into.
 

Frankfooter

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I love it when you get trapped into admitting your racist belief that Palestinians need you to tell them what to do and respond by ridiculous accusations and spam.
You were explaining how you know so much better what Palestinians want then they do.
You're saying all Palestinians are wife beaters now? That's pretty racist. But i guess you have no other response to the reality I challenged you with.
You were using the wife beater's defence, trying to argue that Hamas made Israel commit genocide.

Every accusation is an admission.

And according to the poll I posted, they (at least 75% of them) mean one without Jews. you must hate it when the Palestinians actually speak out against your desires.

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Only 5% want hat you want them forced into.
Now you're posting that after a genocide Palestinians don't want to live with their killers?
My own views are that I would hope that after the ICC and ICJ trials that people could learn to live with each other again in some form with equal rights.
Your view appears to be you want to use that as justification for more genocide.

But of course you are right, Palestinians should be the ones to decide what happens to Palestine after zionism is ended.
 

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@basketcase , @Frankfooter - what do you say to the people who have been proposing (or rather, grudgingly anticipating no other option than) a three-state solution?

- One secular state
- Two ethno-religious ones
 

Frankfooter

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@basketcase , @Frankfooter - what do you say to the people who have been proposing (or rather, grudgingly anticipating no other option than) a three-state solution?

- One secular state
- Two ethno-religious ones
I haven't heard of this proposal.
Link, please.

The one state apartheid system is in place right now, easiest is to end apartheid and implement equal rights.
Give everyone living under Israeli rule full rights, citizenship and the vote and let them figure it out.

Do you think they need more walls and borders?
 
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