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Trump knew the Jan crowd had weapons but said 'they weren't there to hurt me'

y2kmark

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I think that was a moment of panic watching his whole oath keepers/proud boys/Roger Stone coup fail and him kept from storming the Capitol and seizing control.
Think we'll be hearing from the secret service driver?

Secret Service anybody? No way. Executive privilege is legitimate in some circumstances and this is one of them. They don't call them the Secret Service for nothing. This is not to say there isn't at least some truth to the account. He's already exhibited one of his "this is a lie" tells when he said "I hardly know this person"...
 

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Secret Service anybody? No way. Executive privilege is legitimate in some circumstances and this is one of them. They don't call them the Secret Service for nothing...
You would think this would pass those bounds, attempted assault in order to take part in an armed coup.....
 

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And on Fox, Hunter Biden's laptop is suddenly very important again.....

It really is such a coincidence that they keep 'finding' new texts and videos on the laptop of death at just the right moments 2 years later.

Fox is getting totally wacko.
They posted the commission info this afternoon but have now buried it on their front page.
Instead, we get this:

 

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There goes right-wing media's and the MAGA cult narrative, that it was Antifa/BLM attacking the Capitol. Of course only fools believed that Antifa crap, that's why right-wing spewed those lies to their audience.
 

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Was there something in the fake news about Trump today. I am still waiting for the full explanation from the enemy of the people on Russian collusion and the Russian disinformation campaign for the Biden laptop computer theories that they assured me was fact.

They cried wolf too many times for most to watch anymore.

Next thing you know, they will say Trump is not fit for leadership because he had kind words in a tweet for the people who went into the capitol building. Is that really so bad?
 

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hmm I thought he had no guts to do that but it seems he is less of a coward and more of a criminal than I thought :)
I think your first instinct is right.
Notice that story was told by Ornato - the Secret Service guy who became Trump's political advisor.
Do you really think a noted coward and wimp like Trump tried to grab a steering wheel or attacked a Secret Service guy?
Please.
I am sure he threw a hissy fit, but this just sounds like Ornato wanting to make Trump sound like less of a pussy.

Of course, this is going to be the target for the denials.
It's like the pee tape - it's too good an image and story to not report, even if it is weakly sourced.

So this is how I see this going down.
Fox and the RW noise machine will focus on that part of the story and there will be all kinds of arguments about if it really happened. Maybe the guy (Engel?) will go on the record, maybe not, about it not happening.

It changes nothing of course. She only relayed what she was told and the essence of the story (that he was mad they weren't going) won't be denied.
The important bits are things like Trump knowingly told armed supporters to march on the Capitol, Meadows spoke to Stone and Flynn the night before January 6 and then wanted a pardon.
They may not get away with it, but that's going to be the play. Take a small detail that doesn't actually invalidate the main point and argue it to death and then say how it was all a hoax.
The same as they do with the Russia involvement.
The same kind of fake "debate" tactic the Ben Shaprio types like to use to bog down and distract a discussion.

I'd like to think it won't work because it is so transparent, but because the MSM wants to boost the GOP and Trump when they can, they will let themselves be sucked into "did he or did he not grab the wheel" and that will be used by the noise machine to argue that obviously nothing she testified to should be taken seriously.

Maybe I'm wrong and they won't bite, but that's what I expect.
 
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So this is how I see this going down.
Fox and the RW noise machine will focus on that part of the story and there will be all kinds of arguments about if it really happened. Maybe the guy (Engel?) will go on the record, maybe not, about it not happening.
We know how this will go down.
Like this:
Was there something in the fake news about Trump today.
Fox has already changed their story to make it look like the big scandal was that rump got mad and threw his plate at the wall.
Then they buried it.

Czar will pretend he never saw, jc will never reply directly about it and no other right winger will acknowledge the testimony.

If we are lucky the DOJ (and Georgia) will press charges, successfully try rump and give him some kind of sentence.
And we will still see the same amount of posts about Hunter Biden's fake laptop from jc and neither him or any other right winger will admit something happened or discuss rump and their love for him publicly.
 

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Czar will pretend he never saw, jc will never reply directly about it and no other right winger will acknowledge the testimony.

And we will still see the same amount of posts about Hunter Biden's fake laptop from jc and neither him or any other right winger will admit something happened or discuss rump and their love for him publicly.
They keep posting photos of Hunter and his escorts/sex partners fucking and smoking crack as if that will save Trump.
 
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