Canada's Economy Is Slowing Down - Unemployment Rate Is Up - Carney Promises Austerity on the People

WyattEarp

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that will not happen with the lonnie left in office
we will likely have to endure a very painful and expensive loss of exports before the liberal party wakes up
I always thought it bizarre that some Canadians thought the country should self-restrict its production of energy.
Somebody is going to produce that energy if there is demand.

I don't know does an energy rich nation like Norway really try to restrict oil and gas development and production.
I've heard about the contrast of Norway being a big oil producer and requiring electric vehicles, but I can separate consumption from production.
 

WyattEarp

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Do you believe Trump has all the right answers?
Sometimes.

However, the focus of my point is Carney.
What is his plan? Is it more of the same? Is it simply tweaking the past policy?
 

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I always thought it bizarre that some Canadians thought the country should self-restrict its production of energy.
Somebody is going to produce that energy if there is demand.

I don't know does an energy rich nation like Norway really try to restrict oil and gas development and production.
I've heard about the contrast of Norway being a big oil producer and requiring electric vehicles, but I can separate consumption from production.
Norway nationalized their oil and have the largest state fund in the world.
They are using that cash to pay for transition away from fossil fuels.

They win on both fronts.

Alberta is the poster child for conservative policy, they wasted the oil cash, gave it away to foreign corporations for temporary low taxes and are now in trouble.
The US is still trying to invade petro states like Iran and Venezuela while the world switches away.
 

WyattEarp

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So what are the Trump policies you do not agree with? What is he doing wrong?
Come on squeeze, a Canadian website has an overabundance of discussions on Trump and his policies. We even have discussion on Trump's health. Can't we just talk about Canada once in awhile without always trying to bring up Trump.

Carney is stick handling with an unpredictable leader. Do you believe Pee Pee would have done better with Trump?

I think Pee Pee would have gotten Canada to the same point.
 
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Come on squeeze, a Canadian website has an overabundance of discussions on Trump and his policies. We even have discussion on Trump's health. Can't we just talk about Canada once in awhile without always trying to bring up Trump.
Come on, Wyatt, I was very specific. I never asked you about Trump's health. I asked you which of his policies you disagree with if any. Our leader's biggest task is dealing with your leader; therefore, when you question our leader's performance, it just follows that Trump is brought into the fray.



I think Pee Pee would have gotten Canada to the same point.
I disagree because Trump had absolutely no respect for Pee Pee, but he did admire Carney. Trump disliked Justin but had the same reaction towards Pee Pee.
 

Frankfooter

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Come on squeeze, a Canadian website has an overabundance of discussions on Trump and his policies. We even have discussion on Trump's health. Can't we just talk about Canada once in awhile without always trying to bring up Trump.




I think Pee Pee would have gotten Canada to the same point.
Pee Pee is more like DoFo, a maple MAGA.
His policies would likely be the same, cut the rules and let corporations and the rich rule.

Carney is presently treading the lines, he's pushing the liberals more conservative but so far is pushing more investment than his call for austerity.

And watch out, the oracle will be on top of you for calling Poilievre names.
 

JohnLarue

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I think Pee Pee would have gotten Canada to the same point.

nope
with Pierre Poilievre as PM with a majority
the EV mandates would be gone
he would have presented a zero tariff deal to Trump (he would not have taken the summer off to deal with a crisis)
the no pipeline legislation would have been repealed
the second hidden carbon tax would be gone
investment $ into Canada would have soared
the open doors immigration policy would have been shut down and deportations would have started
the size of government would be shrinking ie layoffs of redundant public employees
more houses would be under construction
new crime legislation would have been tabled
 

Frankfooter

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nope
with Pierre Poilievre as PM with a majority
the EV mandates would be gone
he would have presented a zero tariff deal to Trump (he would not have taken the summer off to deal with a crisis)
the no pipeline legislation would have been repealed
the second hidden carbon tax would be gone
investment $ into Canada would have soared
the open doors immigration policy would have been shut down and deportations would have started
the size of government would be shrinking ie layoffs of redundant public employees
more houses would be under construction
new crime legislation would have been tabled
You really haven't read the news lately, have you?
 

DesRicardo

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Come on squeeze, a Canadian website has an overabundance of discussions on Trump and his policies. We even have discussion on Trump's health. Can't we just talk about Canada once in awhile without always trying to bring up Trump.




I think Pee Pee would have gotten Canada to the same point.
They talk about Trump to avoid admitting their own faults and errors. It's easier to point at some on else.

We would have been well ahead if Poilievre was elected. He had everything mapped out. Carney is still trying to figure things out.
 
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WyattEarp

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nope
with Pierre Poilievre as PM with a majority
the EV mandates would be gone
he would have presented a zero tariff deal to Trump (he would not have taken the summer off to deal with a crisis)
the no pipeline legislation would have been repealed
the second hidden carbon tax would be gone
investment $ into Canada would have soared
the open doors immigration policy would have been shut down and deportations would have started
the size of government would be shrinking ie layoffs of redundant public employees
more houses would be under construction
new crime legislation would have been tabled
This is very possible. However, I thought the question was asking if Poilievre would have negotiated with the U.S. on trade better than Carney. Sometimes people are both realistic and better in negotiations.
 

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This is very possible. However, I thought the question was asking if Poilievre would have negotiated with the U.S. on trade better than Carney. Sometimes people are both realistic and better in negotiations.
I don't see any difference. I doubt Trump even knows who he is, or really cares. Whoever was in office Trump's doing the same shit.
 

JohnLarue

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This is very possible. However, I thought the question was asking if Poilievre would have negotiated with the U.S. on trade better than Carney. Sometimes people are both realistic and better in negotiations.
Pierre Poilievre wanted to call Trumps bluff
get rid of all tariffs / trade restrictions between Canada and the US
including softwood lumber , steel, aluminum , dairy etc.
 

WyattEarp

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Pierre Poilievre wanted to call Trumps bluff
get rid of all tariffs / trade restrictions between Canada and the US
including softwood lumber , steel, aluminum , dairy etc.
Canada and the U.S. should form something close to a free trade bloc. I would even say Canadians and Americans (legal Americans of course, right?) should be able to move freely to work between the two countries.

NAFTA was ridiculously called a free trade agreement.
 
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Frankfooter

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Pierre Poilievre wanted to call Trumps bluff
get rid of all tariffs / trade restrictions between Canada and the US
including softwood lumber , steel, aluminum , dairy etc.
You mean like Carney did?
Do you read the news?
 

JohnLarue

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You mean like Carney did?
Do you read the news?

your clown show just never ends
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Current US tariffs on Canada include a 35% tariff on most non-CUSMA-compliant goods, a 10% tariff on energy and potash, a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum, and a 25% tariff on cars and trucks. These tariffs were increased in phases throughout 2025, with a final increase on the general tariff to 35% on August 1, 2025, and the steel/aluminum tariff increased to 50% on June 4, 2025. Additionally, low-value shipments are no longer exempt from duties.
why do you have this compulsives need to mislead / lie ?
is it a genetic issue?
did the doctor smack the wrong end of you @ birth?
did he drop you and smash your head off the floor?
 

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you are obvious to the critical issue
Canadian exports to the U.S. totaled an estimated $593 billion in goods and $123 billion in services in 2023,
you can not pivot and replace or displace that volume

Carney would be lucky to replace 5% of that trade
and there will be margin compression due to increased distance logistics etc.

Carney misrepresented himself to the electorate with his bullshit elbows up campaign to save a corrupt liberal party

you have been played like a damn fool
So... what is your solution? Become the 51st state and lose our pensions and healthcare? He probably wouldn't even let us vote because we'd mostly vote Democrat? But at least we'd have lots of guns! YEEHAW!
 
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