Liberals aren't planning to table a budget this year, finance minister says

[Butler1000]

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this does not even address the fact that Western Canadian Crude goes through Michigan before it arrives in Ontario, while Quebec & the maritimes buy oil from the US
So any attempt by Canada to cut off energy to the US would result in eastern Canada getting cut off by the US
secondly, ant attempt to cut off oil to the US would cause Alberta to accelerate their separatist movement




now you are making shit up

Canada official backs down on tariff threat after call with Trump admin

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said he was suspending 25 percent tariffs on electricity exports to the U.S.

www.newsweek.com

Canada Official Backs Down on Tariff Threat After Call With Trump Admin
Published Mar 11, 2025 at 4:08 PM EDT





Carney was not involved.


this occurred March 11, Carney won the liberal party on March 9
and you are claiming he was directing Doug Ford to do a politically embarrassing about face two days later ??

you are just spewing bullshit

Yes Carney did. And the next day they had lunch. And then various tariffs were paused.

Cripes are you panicking. Get some sleep. Go for a walk. Maybe a little vacation and social media time out. You are down a bad rabbit hole right now.

 

[Insidious Von]

wrong , you are the English pig dog
colonise a land, rape it for its wealth, create a mess and then leave
stiff upper lip and all that

Nice try Johnny, I'm neither English nor Indian.

I'm getting impatient, stop the bullshit and delcare martial law.

 

[Frankfooter]

i have been pointing out the US debt bomb for quite some time.
you are the first loonie lefty to acknowledge this is a problem

the 36 trillion in debt the US govt has accumulate in the past 240 years is projected to double in the next 9 years given the status quo
20% of all govt revenue is spent on the interest payments to service of the current debt

unless the US govt drastically reduces its spending and very soon it will become insolvent
and that will create a global depression, not a recession, a global depression.
and Canada will not be immune from that

the left are so focused on opposing DOGE they do not recognise DOGE was trying to prevent this catastrophe
instead they will watch in horror as Medicaid, Medicare, social security run out of funding in the next decade or so.

DOGE ended up adding more debt, its done now and saved nothing.
All it did was let Elon kill investigations into his companies.

Trump just passed a budget bill, more tax breaks for the rich, more pain for the lower and middle class.
You fall for this every single time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924238873867026463

The US pays for genocide, not to take care of americans.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921762264144838870

Same thing he did last time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921287939897655303

 

[JohnLarue]

Yes Carney did. And the next day they had lunch. And then various tariffs were paused.

Cripes are you panicking. Get some sleep. Go for a walk. Maybe a little vacation and social media time out. You are down a bad rabbit hole right now.

you just do not accept facts

The message came after a phone call between Ford and U.S. Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, they said in a joint statement shared on X, formerly Twitter. The pair will now meet in Washington, D.C., on Thursday.

Carney was not involved
there is no way, Carney forces Doug Ford to pull a politically embarrassing 180 on his threat
you are just making shit up

Cripes are you panicking.

not panicking, but definitely concerned about the economic future of my country

you do not seem to understand what is at stake here

 

[glamphotographer]

Good thing the PM is a banker.

The righties only praise him, only if he is on their side.

 

[Butler1000]

you just do not accept facts



Carney was not involved
there is no way, Carney forces Doug Ford to pull a politically embarrassing 180 on his threat
you are just making shit up



not panicking, but definitely concerned about the economic future of my country

you do not seem to understand what is at stake here

Lol. Because politicians tell the press nothing but the whole truth right?

Who said he forced him? They had a conversation, Ford agreed to tone down things, we were heading to election day. Carney probably had a longer game, expressed it to Ford, and Ford agreed.

This is all about the bill. September. So it doesn't matter what Canada says. Go actually look at the British deal. The Auto carve out is meaningless. Tariffs are still on most things. Same with us. Once the reconciliation bill is decided, unless Trump capitulates again like with China(he bowed to internal pressure from CEO's) then we get a deal that will be USMCA with a few tweaks. Or tariffs stay on worldwide, that's the new reality, and we deal, just like the rest of the world then.

G7 in July. Maybe something happens then. But Trump isn't really dealing.

 

[Frankfooter]

you just do not accept facts



Carney was not involved
there is no way, Carney forces Doug Ford to pull a politically embarrassing 180 on his threat
you are just making shit up



not panicking, but definitely concerned about the economic future of my country

you do not seem to understand what is at stake here

What is at stake is conservatives are making a stink because they have nothing else to whine about yet.
This is nothing unusual.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924418634434158724

 

[JohnLarue]

]Lol. Because politicians tell the press nothing but the whole truth right?

???
so you get to make up a fictious order from one politician to another ?
you are just making shit up

Who said he forced him? They had a conversation, Ford agreed to tone down things, we were heading to election day. Carney probably had a longer game, expressed it to Ford, and Ford agreed.

pure speculation on your part

This is all about the bill. September. So it doesn't matter what Canada says. Go actually look at the British deal. The Auto carve out is meaningless. Tariffs are still on most things. Same with us. Once the reconciliation bill is decided, unless Trump capitulates again like with China(he bowed to internal pressure from CEO's) then we get a deal that will be USMCA with a few tweaks. Or tariffs stay on worldwide, that's the new reality, and we deal, just like the rest of the world then.

G7 in July. Maybe something happens then. But Trump isn't really dealing.
[/QUOTE]

pure speculation on your part

Maybe something happens then. But Trump isn't really dealing.

make up your mind, which is it?

Maybe something happens then
or
But Trump isn't really dealing

you do not have a clue, just like you imagine Canada has energy leverage over the US , when it does not

 

[JohnLarue]

Nice try Johnny, I'm neither English nor Indian.

who said anything about Indian ???

 

[Butler1000]

???
so you get to make up a fictious order from one politician to another ?
you are just making shit up



pure speculation on your part

This is all about the bill. September. So it doesn't matter what Canada says. Go actually look at the British deal. The Auto carve out is meaningless. Tariffs are still on most things. Same with us. Once the reconciliation bill is decided, unless Trump capitulates again like with China(he bowed to internal pressure from CEO's) then we get a deal that will be USMCA with a few tweaks. Or tariffs stay on worldwide, that's the new reality, and we deal, just like the rest of the world then.

G7 in July. Maybe something happens then. But Trump isn't really dealing.

pure speculation on your part


make up your mind, which is it?

Maybe something happens then
or
But Trump isn't really dealing

you do not have a clue, just like you imagine Canada has energy leverage over the US , when it does not
[/QUOTE]

Dude, Trump is a wild card. But he is also hurting. First he has to tell Amazon not to show tariffs on transactions, then tell Walmart to eat the Tariffs.

They ain't going to do that, prices are going to rise, and his glorious promise of lowering prices to his base dies.

 

[JohnLarue]

Dude, Trump is a wild card. But he is also hurting. First he has to tell Amazon not to show tariffs on transactions, then tell Walmart to eat the Tariffs.

They ain't going to do that, prices are going to rise, and his glorious promise of lowering prices to his base dies.

Trump is a wild card.
but you are predicting what is going to do

just like how you are imagining Carney pulling fords strings
just like how you claim Canada has energy leverage when it does not
Just like how you project your experience onto all Canadians, you will be OK so that is all that matters

now this is pretty ironic
posted at 4:25 am

Cripes are you panicking. Get some sleep. Go for a walk. Maybe a little vacation and social media time out. You are down a bad rabbit hole right now.

 

[Butler1000]

Trump is a wild card.
but you are predicting what is going to do

just like how you are imagining Carney pulling fords strings
just like how you claim Canada has energy leverage when it does not
Just like how you project your experience onto all Canadians, you will be OK so that is all that matters

now this is pretty ironic
posted at 4:25 am
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Of course I'm making a prediction. That's the fun part in this. To make a self bet, and see if I'm right. This is nothing more another manufactured crisis imo. One that will go away at some point. I'm just pointing out things that you appear to not see. Because you are taking Trump at his literal word. I'm looking behind the curtain. With eyes on the fact he is not as powerful as you think. There are forces working against him. Forces he can't control.

Dude, this economic hit it just another in the history of Canada. We weathered 2 world wars, a Depression and numerous other recessions. I know what it's like to be on the low end too. And that things always get better. Because Trump isn't eternal. He is just another shitty person who is having a turn holding the Golden Ring, before his ride is over.

And you are chicken little.

 

[wigglee]

WTF, I was willing to give him a chance but this along with naming some really shitty people to cabinet isn‘t giving me much hope.

Can you name a PM who presented their 1st budget in less time? But don't let that stop you from dissing Carney at every opportunity.

 

[JohnLarue]

Of course I'm making a prediction. That's the fun part in this. To make a self bet, and see if I'm right. This is nothing more another manufactured crisis imo. One that will go away at some point. I'm just pointing out things that you appear to not see. Because you are taking Trump at his literal word. I'm looking behind the curtain. With eyes on the fact he is not as powerful as you think. There are forces working against him. Forces he can't control.

Dude, this economic hit it just another in the history of Canada. We weathered 2 world wars, a Depression and numerous other recessions. I know what it's like to be on the low end too. And that things always get better. Because Trump isn't eternal. He is just another shitty person who is having a turn holding the Golden Ring, before his ride is over.

And you are chicken little.

Get some sleep. Go for a walk. Maybe a little vacation and social media time out. You are down a bad rabbit hole right now.

 

[JohnLarue]

Can you name a PM who presented their 1st budget in less time? But don't let that stop you from dissing Carney at every opportunity.

Stephen Harper, the twenty-second prime minister of Canada. Harper served as prime minister from February 6, 2006 to November 4, 2015,

elected prime minister February 6, 2006
2006 Canadian federal budget Presented May 2, 2006

and Harpers was replacing the incumbent party, unlike the current liberals who supposedly are already intimately familiar with the governments finances

this is the longest period Canada has been without a budget since the 1960s

the liberal government has a responsibility to manage within a budget framework
they believe their only responsibility is to retain power

Carney misrepresented himself to the Canadian electorate as the financial guru with a plan to fight Trump
US products
Carney caved to trump, lifting the tariffs on ( quietly) & has no budgeted plan

Carney is going to get roasted alive when Parliament finally opens up & there will be no Jagmeet Singh to prop him up
Carney has proved he does not like to be challenged, has a short temper and is not accustom to the in your face challenges /scrutiny that occur in Parliament

 

[wigglee]

Stephen Harper, the twenty-second prime minister of Canada. Harper served as prime minister from February 6, 2006 to November 4, 2015,

elected prime minister February 6, 2006
2006 Canadian federal budget Presented May 2, 2006

and Harpers was replacing the incumbent party, unlike the current liberals who supposedly are already intimately familiar with the governments finances



the liberal government has a responsibility to manage within a budget framework
they believe their only responsibility is to retain power

Carney misrepresented himself to the Canadian electorate as the financial guru with a plan to fight Trump
US products
Carney caved to trump, lifting the tariffs on ( quietly) & has no budgeted plan

Carney is going to get roasted alive when Parliament finally opens up & there will be no Jagmeet Singh to prop him up
Carney has proved he does not like to be challenged, has a short temper and is not accustom to the in your face challenges /scrutiny that occur in Parliament

Perhaps you under estimate him . You're just transferring your Trudeau Derangement Syndrome to Carney by reflexive impulse. It's what angry rightwingers do.

 

[Butler1000]

Perhaps you under estimate him . You're just transferring your Trudeau Derangement Syndrome to Carney by reflexive impulse. It's what angry rightwingers do.

Actually he did bust yer ass on that one. You should acknowledge it.

 

[Butler1000]

Get some sleep. Go for a walk. Maybe a little vacation and social media time out. You are down a bad rabbit hole right now.

Lol, why, I'm having fun here! You are the one obsessing and worried.

 

[JohnLarue]

Perhaps you under estimate him . You're just transferring your Trudeau Derangement Syndrome to Carney by reflexive impulse. It's what angry rightwingers do.

perhaps he should not have misrepresented himself to the electorate as the man to take on Trump when he knew he would cave
perhaps he should not have dismissed the importance of a budget when spending other peoples money

You're just transferring your blind, dumb and deaf Trudeau worship Syndrome to Carney by reflexive impulse. It's what foolish brain dead ideologues do.

 

[JohnLarue]

Lol, why, I'm having fun here! You are the one obsessing and worried.

gee. then why did Mark Carney become so obsessed with the Trump Tariffs during the election campaign?
odd how he did did not claim he was just going to wait Trump out