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Trump openly grifts $400M bribe airplane from Qatar

richaceg

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You're FULL OF SHIT Ritchie!! If Carney, Biden, or Obama were doing this exactly how Trump is, you and the righties on this board would be losing your minds.
Don't be mad squeezy...other than Sleepy Joe tumbling all over the place...never really criticized the guy...I actually criticized Kamala more because of her word salad...
 

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Phil C. McNasty

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There is nothing illegal about this.
Trump isnt receiving this plane personally, the US government is.
Trump wont be using this plane once he's out in 2028.
The upcoming Presidents who are elected once Trump is out of office will also get to use the plane (whether they be Democrats or Republicans)
 

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There is nothing illegal about this.
Trump isnt receiving this plane personally, the US government is.
Trump wont be using this plane once he's out in 2028.
The upcoming Presidents who are elected once Trump is out of office will also get to use the plane (whether they be Democrats or Republicans)
I guess you know more about this than Richard Briffault, a Columbia Law School professor who specializes in government ethics?



Trump said Monday that the plane isn't a gift to him, but to the Department of Defense. He added that it will be decommissioned after his term for his presidential library, and that he will not use it after leaving office.

Richard Briffault, a Columbia Law School professor who specializes in government ethics, says that distinction doesn't matter: If the plane goes to Trump's presidential library after he leaves office, "then it's not really a gift to the United States at all."

Briffault says accepting the plane would constitute a personal gift and a "pretty textbook case of a violation of the Emoluments Clause." Like other ethics experts, he worries it could lead to Trump feeling beholden to the Qatari government.


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"[Gifts are] designed to create good feelings for the recipient and to get some kind of reciprocity," Briffault says. "But the thing that [Trump] can give, of course, is public policy — weapons deals or whatever. And then, of course, it's an incentive to other countries to give similar gifts as another way of influencing presidential decision-making."

Jordan Libowitz, vice president in communications for the nonprofit watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), told NPR that the gift is especially concerning because of Trump's personal business dealings in the Gulf and in Qatar specifically.






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Phil C. McNasty

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I guess you know more about this than Richard Briffault, a Columbia Law School professor who specializes in government ethics?



Trump said Monday that the plane isn't a gift to him, but to the Department of Defense. He added that it will be decommissioned after his term for his presidential library, and that he will not use it after leaving office.

Richard Briffault, a Columbia Law School professor who specializes in government ethics, says that distinction doesn't matter: If the plane goes to Trump's presidential library after he leaves office, "then it's not really a gift to the United States at all."

Briffault says accepting the plane would constitute a personal gift and a "pretty textbook case of a violation of the Emoluments Clause." Like other ethics experts, he worries it could lead to Trump feeling beholden to the Qatari government.


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"[Gifts are] designed to create good feelings for the recipient and to get some kind of reciprocity," Briffault says. "But the thing that [Trump] can give, of course, is public policy — weapons deals or whatever. And then, of course, it's an incentive to other countries to give similar gifts as another way of influencing presidential decision-making."

Jordan Libowitz, vice president in communications for the nonprofit watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), told NPR that the gift is especially concerning because of Trump's personal business dealings in the Gulf and in Qatar specifically.
If what Briffault says is true, then why hasnt Trump been charged with bribery yet??

I'll make you a bet, Trump will never get charged with bribery. Will you take the bet??
 

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If what Briffault says is true, then why hasnt Trump been charged with bribery yet??

I'll make you a bet, Trump will never get charged with bribery. Will you take the bet??
Of course, the King won’t be charged with bribery, not when his loyal Bondi is overseeing things. What’s truly astonishing is that you're defending what appears to be a blatant case of bribery and a President using the highest office in the land to enrich himself and his family. The brazenness of it all would be laughable if it weren’t so corrosive to the rule of law.

Imagine Obama, Biden or Carney doing this, you would be singing a different tune now, wouldn't ya?
 
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Of course, the King won’t be charged with bribery, not when his loyal Bondi is overseeing things. What’s truly astonishing is that you're defending what appears to be a blatant case of bribery and a President using the highest office in the land to enrich himself and his family. The brazenness of it all would be laughable if it weren’t so corrosive to the rule of law.

Imagine Obama, Biden or Carney doing this, you would be singing a different tune now, wouldn't ya?
Trump is not enriching himself, he's enriching his country's government.
And that plane wont be decommissioned after his term to his presidential library, its way too valuable for that.
It will either be used in Air Force One in some capacity, or the DOD will make some other use for it
 
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I dont know.
A casual perusal of the politics section on TERB has me wading through puddles of conservative tears lately.
Last I checked Conservatives weren't setting cars on fire so there's that.
 

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Trump is not enriching himself, he's enriching his country's government.
And that plane wont be decommissioned after his term to his presidential library, its way too valuable for that.
It will either be used in Air Force One in some capacity, or the DOD will make some other use for it

Ah, I see, so according to you, funneling taxpayer money into a personalized Air Force One that will ultimately be decommissioned to serve as a showpiece at Trump's presidential library is somehow "enriching the government"? Interesting logic.

Let’s walk through this: the U.S. still has to purchase and outfit another Air Force One once this one is decommissioned, this one requires a fortune to be torn apart, which will eventually be decommissioned once Trump is out, checked for surveillance bugs, equipped with top-tier security systems, and then… what? Retired as a vanity trophy?

How exactly is that saving the country money? Please, show us the math, since you seem to have a direct line into your King's thoughts.
 

richaceg

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Ah, I see, so according to you, funneling taxpayer money into a personalized Air Force One that will ultimately be decommissioned to serve as a showpiece at Trump's presidential library is somehow "enriching the government"? Interesting logic.

Let’s walk through this: the U.S. still has to purchase and outfit another Air Force One once this one is decommissioned, this one requires a fortune to be torn apart, which will eventually be decommissioned once Trump is out, checked for surveillance bugs, equipped with top-tier security systems, and then… what? Retired as a vanity trophy?

How exactly is that saving the country money? Please, show us the math, since you seem to have a direct line into your King's thoughts.
What makes you think Trump will actually use this as an official air force 1? He might just use this to deport illegals...
-accepting a 400m plane isn't saving the country money? How's the market lately? weren't you crying a month ago he's gonna crash the economy?
 
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