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Musk has earned the job from his endorsement of the right man.
He is smarter than all of the celebrities who endorsed Harris and
donors giving away $1 billion to the Harris Victory Fund combined.
 
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"Managing your finances" is a vague statement.
Making profit means targeting your services to a certain profitable segment.
None of these business strategies apply to governments who serve all citizens equally at a massive scale.
So value for money is not something governments should strive for?
Managing finances so that money isn't wasted and invested wisely so it benefits the people is not something governments should strive for?
How do governments achieve a surplus? No strategies there?
Tell us what strategies government employ that are vastly different than businesses?
 
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Musk, Ramaswamy Seek Volunteers To Join New Department Of Government Efficiency


Authored by T.J. Muscaro via The Epoch Times

Tesla CEO Elon Musk and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy announced on Nov. 14 that they are looking for volunteers to join the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), calling for the top 1 percent of small-government revolutionaries.


Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk speaks at a rally for former President Donald Trump at Madison
Square Garden in New York City on Oct. 27, 2024. Angela Weiss/AFP via Getty Images


“We are very grateful to the thousands of Americans who have expressed interest in helping us at DOGE,” they announced on social media platform X. “We don’t need more part-time idea generators.
We need super high-IQ small-government revolutionaries willing to work 80+ hours per week on unglamorous cost-cutting. If that’s you, DM this account with your CV. Elon & Vivek will review the top 1% of applicants.”
Musk further confirmed that DOGE work would be unpaid, stating on X, “Indeed, this will be tedious work, make lots of enemies, and compensation is zero. What a great deal!”
In response to that comment, Ramaswamy stated, “That stands in contrast to the many government bureaucrats who: (a) do little or no work, (b) tell people only what they want to hear, & (c) make more money than the value they create.”
DOGE’s objective is in its name: to make government more efficient, with significant spending cuts being among the top expectations.
“I look forward to Elon and Vivek making changes to the Federal Bureaucracy with an eye on efficiency and, at the same time, making life better for all Americans,” Trump said in a Nov. 12 statement announcing the new department and its leaders. “Importantly, we will drive out the massive waste and fraud which exists throughout our annual $6.5 Trillion Dollars of Government Spending. They will work together to liberate our Economy, and make the U.S. Government accountable to ‘WE THE PEOPLE.’”
Musk stated on X that all DOGE actions will be posted online to provide “maximum transparency.” This will include the creation of a leaderboard showcasing the “most insanely dumb spending of your tax dollars,” which he said would be “extremely tragic and extremely entertaining.”
He also urged the public to be vocal about anything that is being cut that they think might be important.
Trump said the initiative could be “‘The Manhattan Project’ of our time.”
The request for volunteers followed Musk’s announcement in September that he was willing to forgo compensation.
“I look forward to serving America if the opportunity arises,” Musk said in a post on X. “No pay, no title, no recognition is needed.”
DOGE will work with the Office of Management and Budget and is set to complete its work no later than July 4, 2026, America’s 250th anniversary.
“Either we get government efficient or America goes bankrupt. That’s what it comes down to. Wish I were wrong, but it’s true,” Musk wrote on X, responding to Trump’s official announcement on Nov. 12.
Caden Pearson contributed to this report.
 
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Elon Musk said he and Vivek Ramaswamy will not be paid for leading the newly-created Department of Government Efficiency.

Musk, the Tesla CEO and SpaceX founder, and Ramaswamy, an entrepreneur and former Republican presidential candidate, were appointed to lead the new department, deemed DOGE for short, by President-elect Donald Trump on Tuesday.

On Wednesday, Musk shared the compensation news in a response to a post made on his platform, X, by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who derided the department's dual-leadership as an inefficiency itself.

"Unlike you, neither of us are being paid, so it is very efficient indeed," Musk said. "(The Department of Government Efficiency) will do great things for the American people. Let history be the judge."
 

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Elon Musk said he and Vivek Ramaswamy will not be paid for leading the newly-created Department of Government Efficiency.

Musk, the Tesla CEO and SpaceX founder, and Ramaswamy, an entrepreneur and former Republican presidential candidate, were appointed to lead the new department, deemed DOGE for short, by President-elect Donald Trump on Tuesday.

On Wednesday, Musk shared the compensation news in a response to a post made on his platform, X, by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who derided the department's dual-leadership as an inefficiency itself.

"Unlike you, neither of us are being paid, so it is very efficient indeed," Musk said. "(The Department of Government Efficiency) will do great things for the American people. Let history be the judge."
Seems to me they need to efficiently remove Warren from the senate.
 
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So value for money is not something governments should strive for?
Managing finances so that money isn't wasted and invested wisely so it benefits the people is not something governments should strive for?
How do governments achieve a surplus? No strategies there?
Tell us what strategies government employ that are vastly different than businesses?
They can in certain departments.
USPS for example by introducing efficiencies and innovative products.
But certain others maybe not.
It is not a parallel to private business where the sole motive is profits for shareholders.
The only thing Musk will do is to cut workforce and fire people.
 
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“We need super high-IQ small-government revolutionaries willing to work 80+ hours per week on unglamorous cost-cutting.
Translation:
We ran our mouths during the campaign but we dont have a fucking clue.
So we now need some of our foolish MAGA fanboys to join our team for some awesome perks such as: Low pay, long hours, and a lot of exciting grunt work on how many lives we can ruin by firing people overnight. :)
 
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Translation:
We ran our mouths during the campaign but we dont have a fucking clue.
So we now need some of our foolish MAGA fanboys to join our team for some awesome perks such as: Low pay, long hours, and a lot of exciting grunt work on how many lives we can ruin by firing people overnight. :)
Debt is 35 trillion dollars, every 100 days another 1 trillion dollar is added to the debt. The country almost literally bankrupts …. You cannot continues spend like a drunken sailor , the path of fiscal irresponsibility's will hurt everyone when the time come when there is no money for social security . Social security expected run out of money by sometime by 2030s . No money for Medicaid . You get a retired MAGA super Intelligence IQ wants to save the country from bankruptcy and willingly to do civic duties for two year ! Debt do matter. Debt have to repaid . Time to saved the country otherwise everyone live will be ruined when the country goes bankrupt! You get a Great Depression or a hyperinflation like Zimbabwean country. Then everyone lose except the billionaire!


Just google yourself when is social security will run out?

Here the google results for you:
When will Social Security run out? According to the May 2024 Social Security trustees report, the fund reserves that help pay for Social Security benefits will be depleted in 2035. Without congressional intervention, retirees would then only be able to receive 83% of their full benefits.


Here another source:

PS. Ask yourself this question… How many lives will be ruined if it continues its fiscal irresponsibility path to point that is impossible to paid down the debt . Your every heard of compound interest growth acceleration in the debt… it can reach to point that is impossible to paid off the debt and just paying of the interest on debt is not possible . You don’t have enough money coming in to service the interest on the debt. That mean you are basically insolvent and bankrupt! Can you offer a better solution then Elon Musk at dept DOGE!
The positive benefit of https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/compound-interest/ and also can applied to debt.
The Life-Changing Magic Of Compound Interest can also apply to debt! ( That the negative benefits!!!).
 
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They can in certain departments.
USPS for example by introducing efficiencies and innovative products.
But certain others maybe not.
It is not a parallel to private business where the sole motive is profits for shareholders.
The only thing Musk will do is to cut workforce and fire people.
The "profits" here are about ensuring taxpayers get the best value for money. That value comes in services and things that are best for the well being of the people.
The way to ensure the people are reaping the best possible outcomes is to spend and invest wisely. Just like businesses do.

You seem to be stuck on the word "profit" without realizing that the principles are the same.

Cutting the workforce that is already bloated would be one of the things that can be done to ensure we are not wasting money on having more people working for the government than needed.
 

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Ramaswamy Says Some Government Agencies Will Be 'Deleted Outright'

MONDAY, NOV 18, 2024 - 11:45 AM

Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times
President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee to co-lead a new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) said on Sunday that some federal agencies will be “deleted outright” and that contractors may see “massive cuts” in what they can charge when the incoming administration takes office next year.

Vivek Ramaswamy, former Republican presidential candidate, speaks during Republican presidential nominee, former President Donald Trump's campaign rally at Riverfront Sports in Scranton, Pa., on Oct. 9, 2024. Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images

Last week, Trump named former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy and Tesla CEO Elon Musk to lead the presidential advisory commission, DOGE. Their work must be completed no later than July 4, 2026, Trump said in his statement.
Ramaswamy told Fox Business on Sunday that “there is massive waste, fraud, and abuse right now.”
Federal contractors are really exploiting the federal government,” he said.
When Fox host Maria Bartiromo asked him whether entire government agencies will be closed, he responded in the affirmative.
We expect mass reductions. We expect certain agencies to be deleted outright,“ Ramaswamy said. ”We expect mass reductions in force in areas of the federal government that are bloated. We expect massive cuts of all federal contractors and others who are overbilling the federal government. So, yes, we expect all of the above.”





As a presidential candidate, Ramaswamy had called for totally eliminating or restructuring of several agencies, including the FBI, the Department of Education, the Internal Revenue Service, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Elaborating on Fox, Ramaswamy said that “failures of the executive branch need to be addressed.”

“Unelected bureaucrats in the administrative state that was created through executive action” are running the government, he said, which needs to be fixed by the executive branch.

This is about restoring self-governance and accountability in America as well. Elected leaders, if they make the wrong decisions, voters have a great choice. You can vote them out and remove them,” Ramaswamy said.

“Most of the people making these decisions from health care to the Department of Defense are failing on effectiveness because they have no accountability. Historically, it’s been the view of many scholars to say that those people could not even be fired. Now, we take a different view with the environment the Supreme Court has given us in recent years, and we’re going to use that in a pretty extensive way to move quickly.”

DOGE will not be an official government agency, meaning that both Ramaswamy and Musk are not considered Cabinet members in the incoming Trump administration and therefore not subject to the Senate confirmation.

Both Ramaswamy and Musk, as well as Tulsi Gabbard, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined the president-elect at a UFC event at New York City’s Madison Square Garden on Saturday night. Gabbard is Trump’s pick for director of national intelligence, while Trump nominated Kennedy to lead the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

On Thursday, DOGE’s account on social platform X, which is owned by Musk, posted a job listing announcement that is calling for individuals to work 80 or more hours per week ahead of Trump’s return to the White House.

Musk and Ramaswamy both threw their support behind Trump this year.
 
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I started cutting back on Escorts after Trump won. All this winning is like I’m constantly getting off. Every day a new pillar of the crazy Progressive’s falls. With Trumps power, Elons intellect and money and the people they’ve assembled, the other side has no chance.
 

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I started cutting back on Escorts after Trump won. All this winning is like I’m constantly getting off. Every day a new pillar of the crazy Progressive’s falls. With Trumps power, Elons intellect and money and the people they’ve assembled, the other side has no chance.
Trump is subject to the same checks and balances every president is.
He is trying to undermine it but let us see how successful he is.
Elon's intellect is overstated. He is a con.
I predict sometime in the next 4 years Trump will utter the phrase "I dont know him" regarding Elon.
 

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Musk has earned the job from his endorsement of the right man.
He is smarter than all of the celebrities who endorsed Harris and
donors giving away $1 billion to the Harris Victory Fund combined.
He bet the right horse. Trump won by less than 2% of the vote.
 
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Trump is subject to the same checks and balances every president is.
He is trying to undermine it but let us see how successful he is.
Elon's intellect is overstated. He is a con.
I predict sometime in the next 4 years Trump will utter the phrase "I dont know him" regarding Elon.
The utter destruction of the left is happening in Canada too. If Trump can even be a little successful, all the upcoming world leaders will have his view. #Winning
 

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The utter destruction of the left is happening in Canada too. If Trump can even be a little successful, all the upcoming world leaders will have his view. #Winning
In what way has the left been destroyed?
Dont mistake the left for the democrats.
And even the democrats didn't get destroyed. Trump's win was not a landslide.
2.6M more people voted for Trump. That was the margin.
Its not much.
Here is an example of a landslide win. Trump's was not .
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Musk, Ramaswamy Seek Volunteers To Join New Department Of Government Efficiency


Authored by T.J. Muscaro via The Epoch Times

Tesla CEO Elon Musk and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy announced on Nov. 14 that they are looking for volunteers to join the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), calling for the top 1 percent of small-government revolutionaries.


Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk speaks at a rally for former President Donald Trump at Madison
Square Garden in New York City on Oct. 27, 2024. Angela Weiss/AFP via Getty Images


“We are very grateful to the thousands of Americans who have expressed interest in helping us at DOGE,” they announced on social media platform X. “We don’t need more part-time idea generators.
We need super high-IQ small-government revolutionaries willing to work 80+ hours per week on unglamorous cost-cutting. If that’s you, DM this account with your CV. Elon & Vivek will review the top 1% of applicants.”
Musk further confirmed that DOGE work would be unpaid, stating on X, “Indeed, this will be tedious work, make lots of enemies, and compensation is zero. What a great deal!”
In response to that comment, Ramaswamy stated, “That stands in contrast to the many government bureaucrats who: (a) do little or no work, (b) tell people only what they want to hear, & (c) make more money than the value they create.”
DOGE’s objective is in its name: to make government more efficient, with significant spending cuts being among the top expectations.
“I look forward to Elon and Vivek making changes to the Federal Bureaucracy with an eye on efficiency and, at the same time, making life better for all Americans,” Trump said in a Nov. 12 statement announcing the new department and its leaders. “Importantly, we will drive out the massive waste and fraud which exists throughout our annual $6.5 Trillion Dollars of Government Spending. They will work together to liberate our Economy, and make the U.S. Government accountable to ‘WE THE PEOPLE.’”
Musk stated on X that all DOGE actions will be posted online to provide “maximum transparency.” This will include the creation of a leaderboard showcasing the “most insanely dumb spending of your tax dollars,” which he said would be “extremely tragic and extremely entertaining.”
He also urged the public to be vocal about anything that is being cut that they think might be important.
Trump said the initiative could be “‘The Manhattan Project’ of our time.”
The request for volunteers followed Musk’s announcement in September that he was willing to forgo compensation.
“I look forward to serving America if the opportunity arises,” Musk said in a post on X. “No pay, no title, no recognition is needed.”
DOGE will work with the Office of Management and Budget and is set to complete its work no later than July 4, 2026, America’s 250th anniversary.
“Either we get government efficient or America goes bankrupt. That’s what it comes down to. Wish I were wrong, but it’s true,” Musk wrote on X, responding to Trump’s official announcement on Nov. 12.
Caden Pearson contributed to this report.
"DOGE"? Anyone here want to check when this acronym was created and if DOGE coin actually spiked right after?
 

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The government is not a business.
It is a service.
what ever gave you the idea govt is a service?
Was it your desire to live in a nanny state where nanny ( the govt) services your every need and want?

funny how the left has forgotten what their inspirational leader once said:

“Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,”

the left has gotten JFKs message ass backwards when they think govt is a service they can order a la carte
 
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