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Bloc Québécois win longtime Liberal seat and deliver stunning blow to Trudeau in Montreal byelection

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The Liberals held the seat for the last century. NDP win in Winnipeg. Liberals maybe thinking of a ides of March at this point.


Voters have dealt Prime Minister Justin Trudeau another devastating byelection loss, this time picking a Bloc Québécois candidate in a Montreal riding that's been held by the Liberals for most of the last century.

The defeat in LaSalle-Émard-Verdun is Trudeau's second byelection loss in a safe Liberal seat in the last three months and it raises questions about his long-term viability as party leader.

Bloc candidate Louis-Philippe Sauvé very narrowly beat Liberal Laura Palestini — a stunning upset given the governing party's past strength in this part of southwest Montreal. NDP candidate Craig Sauvé finished third.

It was one of the tightest three-way electoral battles in recent memory with the leading candidates trading places throughout the count and a final result only known after 2:45 a.m. ET.

In the end, the Bloc's Sauvé took 28 per cent compared to 27.2 per cent for Palestini and 26.1 per cent for the New Democrat. Fewer than 250 votes separated the Bloc and Liberal candidates.

While the other parties squabble with one another and take on an increasingly nasty tone in the House of Commons, the Bloc "presented ourselves to voters as the adults in the room," said Bloc MP Christine Normandin from Sauvé's victory party.

"We're working for the people of Quebec. The voters here are telling us, 'Please continue to fight for us.' They're sending a message to the government. The Bloc has the support of the population and we will make more gains for Quebecers," she said.

Before Monday's byelection, there were few seats safer than LaSalle-Émard-Verdun for the federal Liberals in Quebec. This loss is a sign of how far the party has fallen.

Former prime minister Paul Martin previously represented parts of this riding, and a non-Liberal candidate hasn't won here since the historic Orange Wave of 2011 when Quebec voters elected dozens of NDP MPs.

The outgoing Liberal MP, David Lametti, beat his Bloc opponent by some 20 points in this riding in 2021. Palestini lost by less than one percentage point.

If that same sort of vote swing was applied to other Liberal ridings in Quebec, more than a dozen MPs could lose their seats at the next election.

"We are very proud of the campaign we ran," said Tourism Minister Soraya Martinez Ferrada, who also represents a Montreal riding.

"It's a good dry run for the general election — that's what matters, that's where voters are going to be electing the next government," she told CBC News before the final result was known.

Separatist resurgence
The Bloc victory is the latest sign that separatist parties are enjoying a bit of a resurgence in Quebec after years in the wilderness.

The Parti Quebecois (PQ), the provincial party that essentially launched the modern Quebec independence movement and twice led the campaign to separate from Canada, is seeing an upswing in support as Premier François Legault's Coalition Avenir Québec stumbles after six years in office.

The PQ leader, Paul St. Pierre Plamondon, campaigned in the riding for Sauvé and praised the Bloc for its work in Ottawa, a city he said is a "hostile environment" where Quebecers are always on the defensive.

The Liberal defeat in Montreal comes weeks after Conservative candidate Don Stewart bested his Liberal opponent in Toronto-St. Paul's. Before that June loss, the riding had been held by the Liberals for more than 30 years.

This month, the Liberal party's campaign director quit and the NDP pulled the plug on the supply-and-confidence agreement that gave the government some breathing room in a minority Parliament.

While there have been calls for him to step aside after a tumultuous period, Trudeau has said he will carry on as prime minister and take the Liberals into the next federal election no matter what happens.

He has said he can't leave now because he wants to make sure Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre doesn't win and take the country in a radically different direction.

"I'm not going anywhere," Trudeau said Saturday in an interview on the Montreal radio station CJAD 800.

"I've got a fight to lead against people who want to hurt this country," he said.

NDP win in Winnipeg-area seat
Further west, NDP candidate Leila Dance won the Winnipeg seat of Elmwood-Transcona.

The result isn't much of a shock because this working-class community in the city's east end has been represented by a New Democrat for most of the last 45 years.

Elmwood-Transcona is one of the NDP's safest seats. Only seven seats across the country were safer for the party in the last general election, according to a CBC News analysis of voting data.

But the margin of victory is narrower this time than in years past — a sign that while the NDP pulled in enough votes to win again, the party's brand has taken a hit.

Dance, a small business advocate, bested Conservative candidate and electrician Colin Reynolds by about four percentage points — a fraction of what outgoing MP Daniel Blaikie posted in this riding last time.


 

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I just hope with the Block winning there's not going to be a rise of the separatists.
 

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Singh has to realize his only chance to improve things for his party is to go with the non confidence motion and let the votes fall where they may. But is he brave enough to roll the dice?

Trudeau is fucked.
Why would he want an election now while PeePee is busy blowing all his foreign cash on ads?
Better to wait until the investigations on foreign influence are finished.
 

Frankfooter

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Isn't it crazy the way he has been polling low for god knows how long, his own party has told him he has to go but the egomaniac in him just keeps telling him that he is a great leader and he can do no wrong? Fuck off already and let us try and clean up your decade of mistakes and bad decisions.
Where have we heard this story from before?
Rebel news?
 

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The writing is on the wall for Trudeau he has to step down. Regardless if he does the Liberals are going to get pretty annihilated in the next election.
 

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The Liberals held the seat for the last century. NDP win in Winnipeg. Liberals maybe thinking of a ides of March at this point.


Voters have dealt Prime Minister Justin Trudeau another devastating byelection loss, this time picking a Bloc Québécois candidate in a Montreal riding that's been held by the Liberals for most of the last century.

The defeat in LaSalle-Émard-Verdun is Trudeau's second byelection loss in a safe Liberal seat in the last three months and it raises questions about his long-term viability as party leader.

Bloc candidate Louis-Philippe Sauvé very narrowly beat Liberal Laura Palestini — a stunning upset given the governing party's past strength in this part of southwest Montreal. NDP candidate Craig Sauvé finished third.

It was one of the tightest three-way electoral battles in recent memory with the leading candidates trading places throughout the count and a final result only known after 2:45 a.m. ET.

In the end, the Bloc's Sauvé took 28 per cent compared to 27.2 per cent for Palestini and 26.1 per cent for the New Democrat. Fewer than 250 votes separated the Bloc and Liberal candidates.

While the other parties squabble with one another and take on an increasingly nasty tone in the House of Commons, the Bloc "presented ourselves to voters as the adults in the room," said Bloc MP Christine Normandin from Sauvé's victory party.

"We're working for the people of Quebec. The voters here are telling us, 'Please continue to fight for us.' They're sending a message to the government. The Bloc has the support of the population and we will make more gains for Quebecers," she said.

Before Monday's byelection, there were few seats safer than LaSalle-Émard-Verdun for the federal Liberals in Quebec. This loss is a sign of how far the party has fallen.

Former prime minister Paul Martin previously represented parts of this riding, and a non-Liberal candidate hasn't won here since the historic Orange Wave of 2011 when Quebec voters elected dozens of NDP MPs.

The outgoing Liberal MP, David Lametti, beat his Bloc opponent by some 20 points in this riding in 2021. Palestini lost by less than one percentage point.

If that same sort of vote swing was applied to other Liberal ridings in Quebec, more than a dozen MPs could lose their seats at the next election.

"We are very proud of the campaign we ran," said Tourism Minister Soraya Martinez Ferrada, who also represents a Montreal riding.

"It's a good dry run for the general election — that's what matters, that's where voters are going to be electing the next government," she told CBC News before the final result was known.

Separatist resurgence
The Bloc victory is the latest sign that separatist parties are enjoying a bit of a resurgence in Quebec after years in the wilderness.

The Parti Quebecois (PQ), the provincial party that essentially launched the modern Quebec independence movement and twice led the campaign to separate from Canada, is seeing an upswing in support as Premier François Legault's Coalition Avenir Québec stumbles after six years in office.

The PQ leader, Paul St. Pierre Plamondon, campaigned in the riding for Sauvé and praised the Bloc for its work in Ottawa, a city he said is a "hostile environment" where Quebecers are always on the defensive.

The Liberal defeat in Montreal comes weeks after Conservative candidate Don Stewart bested his Liberal opponent in Toronto-St. Paul's. Before that June loss, the riding had been held by the Liberals for more than 30 years.

This month, the Liberal party's campaign director quit and the NDP pulled the plug on the supply-and-confidence agreement that gave the government some breathing room in a minority Parliament.

While there have been calls for him to step aside after a tumultuous period, Trudeau has said he will carry on as prime minister and take the Liberals into the next federal election no matter what happens.

He has said he can't leave now because he wants to make sure Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre doesn't win and take the country in a radically different direction.

"I'm not going anywhere," Trudeau said Saturday in an interview on the Montreal radio station CJAD 800.

"I've got a fight to lead against people who want to hurt this country," he said.

NDP win in Winnipeg-area seat
Further west, NDP candidate Leila Dance won the Winnipeg seat of Elmwood-Transcona.

The result isn't much of a shock because this working-class community in the city's east end has been represented by a New Democrat for most of the last 45 years.

Elmwood-Transcona is one of the NDP's safest seats. Only seven seats across the country were safer for the party in the last general election, according to a CBC News analysis of voting data.

But the margin of victory is narrower this time than in years past — a sign that while the NDP pulled in enough votes to win again, the party's brand has taken a hit.

Dance, a small business advocate, bested Conservative candidate and electrician Colin Reynolds by about four percentage points — a fraction of what outgoing MP Daniel Blaikie posted in this riding last time.


I do feel a wave of nationalism on the low in Quebec. Which was long gone. Even my dad brought it up. I was surprised. I guess Quebec is no different than any places in the world; when in desperate needs for a change, people will vote for the extreme (right or left).
 

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I do feel a wave of nationalism on the low in Quebec. Which was long gone. Even my dad brought it up. I was surprised. I guess Quebec is no different than any places in the world; when in desperate needs for a change, people will vote for the extreme (right or left).
If they separate I wonder what kind of agreement is in place for them to still receive the Federal gov`t cheese? Sabotage!! :D
 
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Do you agree with absolutely everything rump or PeePee do?
I don't. I don't care about Trump. He has no effect on me. Peepee...i agree to axe the carbon tax...you let the gov't run your life? You know if the prices aren't so high, we can afford our own dental expenses and not rely on the government like we do before...
 

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Justin will keep his position as long as there's idiots like you who believes he's the 2nd coming of the Messiah... You must be torn everytime Trudeau states Hamas are terrorists...
This fucking balloon head takes arrogance and narcissistic grandeur to a new ceiling. Even ole Adolf knew when it was over, JT is a textbook Cluster B nutjob.
 

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I don't. I don't care about Trump. He has no effect on me. Peepee...i agree to axe the carbon tax...you let the gov't run your life? You know if the prices aren't so high, we can afford our own dental expenses and not rely on the government like we do before...
Axe the carbon tax and then what? What plan Peepee has to fight global warming? And why stop at carbon tax? Maybe axe all taxes? Pay for your own heart surgery instead on relying on others to pay?

Best thing to happen is to continue a minority government whether been blue or red.
 
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