Project 2025

Skoob

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I'm glad you finally accept that what rump says is misinformation.
I agree that directly posting videos of rump speeches are great examples of total bullshit.
Just because you can't understand what he's saying doesn't mean it's misinformation.
Mind you, someone like you who has tried repeatedly to peddle misinformation may not know the difference.
 

Skoob

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You've never caught me lying, skoob.
That's more bullshit.
I've caught you lying & spreading misinformation more times than I can count. The fact that you are denying this is just proof of another one of your lies.
 

Frankfooter

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I've caught you lying & spreading misinformation more times than I can count. The fact that you are denying this is just proof of another one of your lies.
You are lying again, skoob.
Nothing of the sort has ever happened.

Just because you can't understand what he's saying doesn't mean it's misinformation.
Mind you, someone like you who has tried repeatedly to peddle misinformation may not know the difference.
Ok, watch that video and tell us what he's talking about.
Go ahead, prove your point.
 

Valcazar

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How many times has Trump mentioned them other than saying he doesn't support them?
None.
He's working very hard to defang a very effective line of attack.

And as I've said, he could kill the whole thing dead easily by just saying which parts he disagrees with.
He called some parts "extreme and awful" if I recall.
One policy interview where he answered which those parts are and a how he actively rejects them and this whole thing falls apart.
If only he would do a real interview with real journalists who asked him about it.

But he could do it without a journalist if he wanted.
 

Skoob

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None.
He's working very hard to defang a very effective line of attack.

And as I've said, he could kill the whole thing dead easily by just saying which parts he disagrees with.
He called some parts "extreme and awful" if I recall.
One policy interview where he answered which those parts are and a how he actively rejects them and this whole thing falls apart.
If only he would do a real interview with real journalists who asked him about it.

But he could do it without a journalist if he wanted.
So he has never said anything about supporting their views and has also criticized them, but it doesn't matter to you either way?
He and his campaign have already stated their platform is the one they support and nothing else...still not enough for you?

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/R...8566.73156453.1725823566-649464791.1725823566
 

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So he has never said anything about supporting their views and has also criticized them, but it doesn't matter to you either way?
He and his campaign have already stated their platform is the one they support and nothing else...still not enough for you?

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/R...8566.73156453.1725823566-649464791.1725823566
If their platform is so great why has their main guy been indicted by five grand juries consisting of ordinary citizens who saw the evidence?
 
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Valcazar

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So he has never said anything about supporting their views and has also criticized them, but it doesn't matter to you either way?
He has said a LOT about supporting their views.
Just not by the name "Project 2025".
He praised the Heritage foundation and said they would be creating the plans for his movement - but this was before it was called Project 2025.

“This is a great group, and they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America.”

His own "Agenda 47" list many of the same policy goals, only without the details about how he would execute them. (Those details are in Project 2025.)
So does the GOP platform.

And, or course, he refuses to denounce them and say what plans he opposes.
He's said he disagrees with some of what they propose and some of what they propose is extreme and awful.

He just won't specify what.
Which is all he would have to do to make this go away, you might think.

He and his campaign have already stated their platform is the one they support and nothing else...still not enough for you?

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/R...8566.73156453.1725823566-649464791.1725823566
Totally enough for me.
Their platform aligns with Project 2025 to a large degree, with project 2025 being details on how to execute that Platform.
I'm glad they admit how much the Heritage Foundation plans are obviously part of the mix.
 

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We are talking about settlers, ...
Do you think Arab Israelis travelling to the West Bank are legitimate targets?

Amnesty, HRW, and the international law you pretend to understand say that settlers are civilians unless they are engaged in an attack but you know better and say that just being a Jew in the West Bank makes you a terrorist and a legitimate target.

And no surprise you refuse to comment on Hamas restarting suicide bombings and executing hostages.
 

basketcase

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Project 2025 is the rump plan from his backers.
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It's not Trump's plan. But they are the people Trump panders to and had previously hired to significant governmental positions. I'm sure when they sit around and talk, they laugh at how stupid and easy to manipulate Trump is.
 

Frankfooter

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Do you think Arab Israelis travelling to the West Bank are legitimate targets?

Amnesty, HRW, and the international law you pretend to understand say that settlers are civilians unless they are engaged in an attack but you know better and say that just being a Jew in the West Bank makes you a terrorist and a legitimate target.

And no surprise you refuse to comment on Hamas restarting suicide bombings and executing hostages.
The ICJ told Israel to leave Palestine, to end the occupation in the West Bank and Gaza and pay restitution.
B'tselem and the UN have stated that settlers attack Palestinian as state policy, a policy of terrorism.
Settlers should be under Palestinian jurisdiction and Palestinian law.

HRW:
West Bank: Israel Responsible for Rising Settler Violence
Entire Palestinian Communities Displaced Months After Attacks


Israeli settlers have assaulted, tortured, and committed sexual violence against Palestinians, stolen their belongings and livestock, threatened to kill them if they did not leave permanently, and destroyed their homes and schools under the cover of the ongoing hostilities in Gaza.

Amnesty:
Israel/OPT: Israeli military must be investigated for war crime of wanton destruction in Gaza – new investigation

Amnesty:
Israel/OPT: Palestinians face drastic escalation in unlawful killings, displacement as Israel launches West Bank military operation
 

Skoob

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If their platform is so great why has their main guy been indicted by five grand juries consisting of ordinary citizens who saw the evidence?
Who or what are you responding to exactly?
What do indictments have to do with the Republican platform?
 

Skoob

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He has said a LOT about supporting their views.
Just not by the name "Project 2025".
He praised the Heritage foundation and said they would be creating the plans for his movement - but this was before it was called Project 2025.

“This is a great group, and they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America.”

His own "Agenda 47" list many of the same policy goals, only without the details about how he would execute them. (Those details are in Project 2025.)
So does the GOP platform.

And, or course, he refuses to denounce them and say what plans he opposes.
He's said he disagrees with some of what they propose and some of what they propose is extreme and awful.

He just won't specify what.
Which is all he would have to do to make this go away, you might think.



Totally enough for me.
Their platform aligns with Project 2025 to a large degree, with project 2025 being details on how to execute that Platform.
I'm glad they admit how much the Heritage Foundation plans are obviously part of the mix.
If you take the time to review the plans of 100+ American think tanks out there you will also find correlation, similarity and alignment between not only the Republican platform but also the Democrat's.

If that's your smoking gun, and you can't get a grip on your cognitive bias, then I can't help you. Sorry.

But if you are hell-bent on focusing on this particular think tank's proposal, then the least you could do is filter out all the misinformation that's being peddled by the left about it.

You can start with Kamala and go from there...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/politics/fact-check-harris-project-2025-trump/index.html

...and more...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...democrats-about-project-2025-and-donald-trump
 

Frankfooter

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There would have been more of Biden except the Dems hid him for most of the 4 years he was in power before the coup.
Biden isn't running because of it but rump still is.
So why would you back a senile rapist and convicted felon?
 

Valcazar

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If you take the time to review the plans of 100+ American think tanks out there you will also find correlation, similarity and alignment between not only the Republican platform but also the Democrat's.
So your defence is that "since any plan might have some overlap, no plan can be considered real"?
That's pretty fucking goofy.
 
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