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Kamala Harris - is she fit to be President?

Skoob

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What more experience or skills would you want?
VP is about as close as you can get.
That's an easy question...
Go with the candidate who actually has experience doing the job, like in any other profession, and not just hire someone based on how many black people they imprisoned for minor crimes in their previous job.
 
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Well how would we know she will? She hasn't shown up for any interview and speak about her platform....she shunned even left leaning media...
But she went to a record store and purchased a few albums by black artists...what more do you want?
 
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on Vivek. Maga would stay home and not vote at all. There is no way they would vote for a brown guy, impossible. Vivek should have remained in the middle left as he was and under the Dem umbrella he would have stood a chance for one day to run and win the presidency.
All three are great choices. I agree that Vivek would have a hard time being elected as he is a Hindu. I remember during the republican primaries there was a lot of talk that if Vivek became Trump's VP, the debate against Kamala would be the worst beating in debate history. I just remember that for some reason. Maybe because they were both Indian and there was just so much contrast between them.

Also, I remember Vivek constantly saying Biden wouldn't be the person running and it would probably be Michelle Obama or Newsome. He didn't even acknowledge that Kamala might have a shot. Very interesting future case studies on Kamala's marketing campaign and rise in the polls over the last several weeks as nobody gave her any credit to be able to run.
 
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Sure bud.

But, since she's running against Trump, I think virtually anyone would be a better choice than him. He proved that during his term as President. He failed to accomplish 99% of his major goals and showed time and again that he didn't have the temperament.

But, let's look at their policies.

Trump's can basically be summed up as scare the bejesus out of people. SEAL THE BORDER! STOP CRIME!
There are absolutely no details on how he will go about "Making America Great Again," outside his buzz words and gripes.
He screams about cutting funding to schools that use CRT, something that's been disproven, but a MAGA greatest hits...

Harris' platform is still being rolled out. I know she's talking about helping the middle class, but not many details are out yet. I think she'll articulate them further at the DNC.
She has no platform because the platform she helped peddle for the past 4 years has failed miserably.
So she can't just repeat what Biden was doubling down on before he "stepped aside".

The only thing she can honestly hope for is the "anti-Trump" vote and not the" OMG we love Kamala" vote. She's spending more time peddling misinformation (and cackling of course) than actually doing anything else

Knowing that, she's treading carefully not to promote a platform that comes across as b.s. and she can't defend.

So anyone who would support her has no idea why other than hoping Trump doesn't win. That's unfortunate indeed.
 
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All we can do is compare her to past normal presidents (not Trump) and all of them would have done them by now. In the past her unscripted interviews have not gone well and she’s gotten flak for them and a lot of ridicule from both sides but mostly the right.

If I was in her situation, it would make me even more nervous I’m going to mis-speak and it would get in my head. It’s totally normal for anyone to feel this way. But she clearly has the confidence. We see that in her speeches.

If I were to bet, I would say unscripted interviews give her anxiety. Is this acceptable for a president to have this. I don’t know.

"I'm talking to my sister here. Come on now. You're running for the presidency of The United States of America. You got my vote. You're running for the presidency of the United States of America. What you hiding for? And I mean hiding in plain sight. Somebody gotta say it. Somebody gotta say it Now, you can't be running for the presidency of the United States. Not one single press conference. Not one single one-on-one sit-down interview where somebody gets to question you about the questions that we ask. That's not fair. That's not fair." - Stephen A. Smith (I believe this is from his podcast as of today)

He's voting for her and is still confused as to why she can't sit for an interview. I'm telling you she's got some mental block where she vomits out words during these things. Can we trust her to speak to foreign leaders like Putin or Xi when she is in this state?
 

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Kamala vs Hailey, Hailey would win
Kamala vs Vivek, Vivek would win
Kamala vs Ronny D, it would be a competitive race

Trump won in 2016 because he was not Hillary, Biden won 2020 because he was not Trump, Kamala will probably win 2024 because she is not Trump.
That's another post of yours I agree with...This is crazy,lol.
 

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"I'm talking to my sister here. Come on now. You're running for the presidency of The United States of America. You got my vote. You're running for the presidency of the United States of America. What you hiding for? And I mean hiding in plain sight. Somebody gotta say it. Somebody gotta say it Now, you can't be running for the presidency of the United States. Not one single press conference. Not one single one-on-one sit-down interview where somebody gets to question you about the questions that we ask. That's not fair. That's not fair." - Stephen A. Smith (I believe this is from his podcast as of today)

He's voting for her and is still confused as to why she can't sit for an interview. I'm telling you she's got some mental block where she vomits out words during these things. Can we trust her to speak to foreign leaders like Putin or Xi when she is in this state?
Theyre just running the same game that they have for years and years. MSM is running the campaign.
 
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I have no problem with her reversing her position as long as she just owns it...Just throw Biden under the bus and move on.
She's in a very precarious position.
If she throws Biden under the bus at this point, then it will show she can't be trusted after defending Biden and his policies for 4 years (while hiding Biden from the public at the same time).
If she stays the course, then she will be criticized for continuing with policies that haven't worked.

I think she should just cackle her way through interviews and leave it at that. No one is voting for her and whatever policies she would be trying to peddle. They would only be voting for her because they would not want Trump to win.
 

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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on Vivek. Maga would stay home and not vote at all. There is no way they would vote for a brown guy, impossible. Vivek should have remained in the middle left as he was and under the Dem umbrella he would have stood a chance for one day to run and win the presidency.
Vivek is more charismatic than Kamala and is a better speaker. He will lose hardcore MAGA voters but he will pickup some independents and some Dems. I think Vivek would do better in the general election than any of the GOP who were running against Trump.

If it was Vivek as the GOP nominee then I think the Dems would likely run Michelle Obama, in that case I think Michelle would win.
 
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Thankfully not me huh? Convince me if you can she has what it takes to be an effective President. This just proved my point that you default to the easiest response, which is bashing the poster.

Were Ulysses Grant, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, and LBJ
fit to be president? If the answer is yes then I would say there is
no reason to question Harris's qualification.

I predict Harris's presidency will turn out to be an unmitigated
disaster. But I don't believe she will do any worse than the above
four past presidents.
 
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I predict Harris's presidency will turn out to be an unmitigated
disaster. But I don't believe she will do any worse than the above
four past presidents.
There we go, now we are starting to see the light. We are critically thinking and becoming more realistic on our expectations based on the current information we have about her.
 

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That's an easy question...
Go with the candidate who actually has experience doing the job, like in any other profession, and not just hire someone based on how many black people they imprisoned for minor crimes in their previous job.
So you want to return to the guy who tried to start a coup after he lost the election last time?
I'd say give the job to the person who hasn't already been voted out of office once already.
rump was impeached twice and then voted out, clearly he failed as president.

Don't re-elect a loser.
 

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Let’s take Trump out of the picture here as many have TDS. Yes, we know the talking points - he’s old, senile, a crook, a sexist, a bad former President, racist, low IQ, will destroy the economy, and none of the leaders respect him. The we can’t have Trump as President so we must elect the opposing candidate view.

Let’s just say Kamala was running against Obama or Bill Clinton. What would be positive talking points for Kamala? She has yet to have any press interviews articulating any of her points. What would you say might be some strengths she has over a normal candidate like Obama or Clinton? Maybe even strengths in general.

This isn’t a Kamala bashing thread, but as a person who has always voted democrat, I can’t find anything good about her. We have smart people here and would like to see what other people view as her unique strengths.
She out polls Trump in honesty and integrity. As a seasoned prosecutor, she's uniquely qualified to beat felon Trump,,,
 

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It’s not a means to shit on her. Voting in America is said to be a privledge.

Every candidate for President should be put under the microscope and looked at more critically than any other position. Not paraded around. This goes for democrats and republicans. There are plenty of Trump bashing threads and creating a new one doesn’t add any value. Lets just say Trump is not fit to be President.

This is an opportunity to really talk about if she’s capable. Maybe someone who didn’t like her will look at this and gain a favorable view.
Where is standard criteria here?? She has better legs, better tits and she's younger. Isn't that the Terb litmus test for who gets our backing???
 

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I will start this post by saying that I'm AMAZED that Kamala is the heir apparent to run against Trump. I thought for sure that the DEMS would have announced an open convention to elect a candidate to run against Trump and that candidate would not have been Kamala. Boy was I wrong.

And the reason I say that it would have not been Kamala was her terrible performance as Vice President and the fact that Biden doesn't particularly like her.

Looking at her record, she announced to much fanfare and rejoicing that she was going to be a candidate for POTUS in 2020. (Que singing angels.) She failed miserably and, mercifully, quickly. Didn't compete in a single primary.

During her time as VP she was handed a few files to handle for Biden and she failed at every one. First and foremost was to solicit some sort of win with respect to securing the southern border. She was an abject failure at that. She didn't accomplish a single thing and didn't even visit the border for 4 months into her mandate. But she did find time to buy several new pantsuits I'm sure.

She bumbled her way along as VP from one failure to the next. Kamala was so bad as VP that there was serious talk among Democrats as to removing her from the 2024 ticket. And this is no secret. It was well reported in the media where it had been leaked by inside Democrats. And it's no secret that the leak would have had to have been approved by Biden himself. The reason was simple. Kamala's numbers as VP were tanking and she was seen as a detriment to Biden's re-election. Biden was just testing the waters as to whether or not jetisoning Kamala was sound strategy or not.

Now looking at the election at the current time, Kamala does appear to be riding high and should be able to defeat Trump, but that's because she's riding high in the media which is a natural reaction to Biden stepping aside and more so Trump looking like the lunatic that he is. (Not the least of which has been his own moronic choice of picking some whack job with a name like "JD" as his own candidate for VP.) And if Trump continues performing like he has been, a gerbil should be able to defeat him.

I saw Biden's resignation as a golden opportunity to nominate a powerfully charismatic nominee in the likeness of Clinton or Obama. A person who could use that ability to power his way past a candidate like Kamala who owes her position not to skill, brains or charisma but to simply being in the right place at the right time. Opportunity lost. And the worst part is that the world as we know it curently lies is a more dangerous place than it has been in in 60 years. You have to ask yourself if given that knowledge, does Kamala assuage that fear or not?

Yeah, me too.
 
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