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What other cities beat toronto for hobbying ?

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Adultwork is not a complete representation of what's available there by a long stretch. Most agencies / parlors don't use it. It's closer to what LL is for Toronto
I agree AdultWork (AW) is not a complete representation of what is available in London however I would be reluctant to compare it to LL. You can find a full span of service providers on AW and on my visits to London, I have not had problems with reputable providers found on it.

Even with that subset, the list of service providers on AdultWork still overwhelms what Toronto can offer which is the point I was making. London is a true world class city and since escorting is legal in the UK there is no way Toronto could compete.
 
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Bangkok was pretty awesome. Have to go back and see the others
Hijacking the thread here. I will be in Bangkok soon, besides Massage Republic are there any service provider directories that you would suggest?
 
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I agree AdultWork (AW) is not a complete representation of what is available in London however I would be reluctant to compare it to LL. You can find a full span of service providers on AW and on my visits to London, I have not had problems with reputable providers found on it.

Even with that subset, the list of service providers on AdultWork still overwhelms what Toronto can offer which is the point I was making. London is a true world class city and since escorting is legal in the UK there is no way Toronto could compete.
I still feel it's fair to say that's what it is closer to. Agreed that it's generally broader and maybe has a more reliable hit rate (though far from certain - the same issues do exist to varying degrees). It's predominantly independents, a much more limited representation of agencies / parlors but typically not the well established ones. And it's in those that I'd say Toronto has an edge which makes it a close call either way. I'm very pro-London for hobbying so I don't think we are of widely opposed views
 

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Hijacking the thread here. I will be in Bangkok soon, besides Message Republic are there any service provider directories that you would suggest?
I didn't use directories. It's more of a get out there and see what you encounter type of city. ISG has very helpful info though, read it a lot beforehand
 

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...Even with that subset, the list of service providers on AdultWork still overwhelms what Toronto can offer which is the point I was making. London is a true world class city and since escorting is legal in the UK there is no way Toronto could compete.
Toronto can compete, if you consider how expensive London is and the exchange rate.
 

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The US of course. NYC, Washington, Chicago, LA, SF. These are all great for hobbying. Very expensive though.
I lived in NYC and travelled for business to the others. The US generally sucks big time. Juice bars to see a pussy, and expensive silicon enhanced porn stars for their strip clubs. I prefer GND types in GTA & Montreal. Between US & Canada - we are far away the best experience in value and quality.
 

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Best Canadian hobbying cities imo
1 - Montreal
2 - Toronto
3 - Vancouver
 

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Hijacking the thread here. I will be in Bangkok soon, besides Massage Republic are there any service provider directories that you would suggest?
Just walk around you will find a lot of options. Visit thermae cafe if you’re in Sukhumvit.
 

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I found the Red Light district in Amsterdam was just touristy and overrated. And their strip clubs suck. Antwerp has a good red light district though. Mostly to service the port. Many hot EE women (Moldovan was a popular origin, for some reason).
 
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How is it in alberta? anyone got experience?
I don't have much experience to offer, but my one night in Calgary was disappointing. I went to a strip club, where it was $30 per "lap dance"... and they do it 4ft in front of you. NO contact allowed.
 

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I really enjoy visiting Montreal, there are way more girls with big fake boobs than we have here. In terms of pricing, I don't recall thinking it was too different than Toronto.
 

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Toronto can compete, if you consider how expensive London is and the exchange rate.
It definitely competes. Some elements of hobbying cheaper there though, e.g. their Asian agencies, which are of pretty comparable quality to me, but yes it's a very expensive city
 
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vacation places like Florida

anyplace where women are liberted like Iceland, NewZealand they like you and you are nice guy and they are avaailable
That is an interesting comment, because, with the exception of Miami, those are three of the worst places to purchase sex with money on the planet Earth.

New Zealand gets a lot of publicity for its liberated sex work laws, but the actual reviews are terrible and the Kiwi Punters eagerly await the tours from the wild-child Aussie independents who tour New Zealand.

But your analysis has a very valid point in that it equates vacationing to good sex.

I have done this a lot in Montreal and once in Toronto, but an equal amount in Europe and Asia, and even more so in the U.S., and from a perspective of Dick time in Pussy, Mouth, Ass and Hand of a Pretty Girl, Toronto can hold its own with any city in the world.

The guys who rave about other places are falling into the Vacation and Processes trap. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Everyone should get what they enjoy.

Chris Rock used to do a comedy sketch about the dating process. A girl would say if you think my pussy is good now, wait till you take me to Jamaica.

Europe is an awesome place to visit, so when you get laid at the end of the day, it is a cherry on top of an already delicious desert. The girl was similar to the one in Toronto, but you enjoyed it more for other reasons. The same can be true if you are a Canadian who goes to a seminar in Las Vegas (and see one of the ladies me or other experienced U.S. guys recommended in the International section, not some fake chick from a postcard ad). It costs more in the U.S., and the downmarket scene is quite dangerous from a perspective of getting arrested or rolled, but if you are having a fun time in Vegas and go high-end, that lay at the end of the night is going to be more memorable than the 50th time you pressed that buzzer at that Condo on Bay Street. But the girl wasn’t better, nor did she offer and different services in one place or the other.

The other issue is the delivery process. So many North American guys go to a German FKK and come back and write pages of prose about how they seen 100 naked German girls. You ask them for more details and they talk about how they all had dark hair and cute slightly hooked noses. You tell them those were Romanian girls and they ask what part of Germany that is, and you bang your head on the desk and say “Fuck it. Never mind”. You ask them if they did like the famous Casey Jones song where he Fucked 98 till my balls turned blue, then backed off, jacked off, and fucked the other two. And he says, no, I spent eight hours there and did three ladies. Some of you do realize that the Toronto incall agencies are open from noon to midnight, correct. And they let you book three ladies during the day. Same with Barcelona, and you can tour an awesome city in between your three incall visits. The Delivery Process is different at a German FKK or a Brazilian Terma. The pussy in the room isn’t.

It isn’t any different than when a new restaurant chain with a drive-thru opens up in your town. The lines are a half-mile long the first few weeks while everyone tries the new place. The raving stops once you have had it many times.

Now there is one exception. If you like Fetish activities, the city has to be wealthy enough. Which Toronto is, but not as much as London or New York, which have better Fetish offerings (although Toronto has some). There was an old U.S. radio show called Loveline based in Culver City (part of Los Angeles) and it wasn’t too far from Lady Laura’s, a BDSM place in Culver City. Lady Laura’s has now closed. The owner retired and the real estate had gotten quite valuable. Loveline went away when Adam Corolla replaced Howard Stern on some West Coast stations. Adam is a comedian and Dr. Drew is a doctor. Adam is funny, Dr. Drew isn’t. They once went to Lady Laura’s to do the show. Dr. Drew seemed a little disturbed by all the paddles and canes, but Adam was having a ball. Laura’s had dominant, switches and submissive ladies. Adam noted that most of the female submissives were white girls he surmised were from relatively rich families, and he told one of the doms that he bet almost all of her male customers were relatively wealthy white guys as opposed to poor Mexicans. She giggled and said that was correct. Adam said that if you are a poor Mexican, life beats the shit out of you every day, and you don’t want that as part of your sex life. She giggled again. Adam is pretty smart.
 

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That is an interesting comment, because, with the exception of Miami, those are three of the worst places to purchase sex with money on the planet Earth.

I meant countries where women are liberated are the best for civy sex, not hobby sex work as that is considered exploitative in liberated countries
 
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That is an interesting comment, because, with the exception of Miami, those are three of the worst places to purchase sex with money on the planet Earth.

New Zealand gets a lot of publicity for its liberated sex work laws, but the actual reviews are terrible and the Kiwi Punters eagerly await the tours from the wild-child Aussie independents who tour New Zealand.

But your analysis has a very valid point in that it equates vacationing to good sex.

I have done this a lot in Montreal and once in Toronto, but an equal amount in Europe and Asia, and even more so in the U.S., and from a perspective of Dick time in Pussy, Mouth, Ass and Hand of a Pretty Girl, Toronto can hold its own with any city in the world.

The guys who rave about other places are falling into the Vacation and Processes trap. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Everyone should get what they enjoy.

Chris Rock used to do a comedy sketch about the dating process. A girl would say if you think my pussy is good now, wait till you take me to Jamaica.

Europe is an awesome place to visit, so when you get laid at the end of the day, it is a cherry on top of an already delicious desert. The girl was similar to the one in Toronto, but you enjoyed it more for other reasons. The same can be true if you are a Canadian who goes to a seminar in Las Vegas (and see one of the ladies me or other experienced U.S. guys recommended in the International section, not some fake chick from a postcard ad). It costs more in the U.S., and the downmarket scene is quite dangerous from a perspective of getting arrested or rolled, but if you are having a fun time in Vegas and go high-end, that lay at the end of the night is going to be more memorable than the 50th time you pressed that buzzer at that Condo on Bay Street. But the girl wasn’t better, nor did she offer and different services in one place or the other.

The other issue is the delivery process. So many North American guys go to a German FKK and come back and write pages of prose about how they seen 100 naked German girls. You ask them for more details and they talk about how they all had dark hair and cute slightly hooked noses. You tell them those were Romanian girls and they ask what part of Germany that is, and you bang your head on the desk and say “Fuck it. Never mind”. You ask them if they did like the famous Casey Jones song where he Fucked 98 till my balls turned blue, then backed off, jacked off, and fucked the other two. And he says, no, I spent eight hours there and did three ladies. Some of you do realize that the Toronto incall agencies are open from noon to midnight, correct. And they let you book three ladies during the day. Same with Barcelona, and you can tour an awesome city in between your three incall visits. The Delivery Process is different at a German FKK or a Brazilian Terma. The pussy in the room isn’t.

It isn’t any different than when a new restaurant chain with a drive-thru opens up in your town. The lines are a half-mile long the first few weeks while everyone tries the new place. The raving stops once you have had it many times.

Now there is one exception. If you like Fetish activities, the city has to be wealthy enough. Which Toronto is, but not as much as London or New York, which have better Fetish offerings (although Toronto has some). There was an old U.S. radio show called Loveline based in Culver City (part of Los Angeles) and it wasn’t too far from Lady Laura’s, a BDSM place in Culver City. Lady Laura’s has now closed. The owner retired and the real estate had gotten quite valuable. Loveline went away when Adam Corolla replaced Howard Stern on some West Coast stations. Adam is a comedian and Dr. Drew is a doctor. Adam is funny, Dr. Drew isn’t. They once went to Lady Laura’s to do the show. Dr. Drew seemed a little disturbed by all the paddles and canes, but Adam was having a ball. Laura’s had dominant, switches and submissive ladies. Adam noted that most of the female submissives were white girls he surmised were from relatively rich families, and he told one of the doms that he bet almost all of her male customers were relatively wealthy white guys as opposed to poor Mexicans. She giggled and said that was correct. Adam said that if you are a poor Mexican, life beats the shit out of you every day, and you don’t want that as part of your sex life. She giggled again. Adam is pretty smart.
Regarding fkk. There is something about watching 100 naked women walking around or getting bj in public that other places don't offer. In the end sex is the same any way you go.
 
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Just back from Mexico City. I thought London had some amazing women (see Diva). Mexico City has a huge choice spectrum, but what seems to be the higher end, with model like looks and service options beyond Toronto on Laboutique.com. You'd assume that the photos are fake, but can confirm from my experience, that they are real. You absolutely need WhatsApp to communicate but just Wow. Chose a city in Mexico from the starting menu, and then see the latest additions. Just Mexico City alone had about 10 new "models" per day while I was there, and for proof, connected with one of the new models one day, and did all the tests that I could to ensure the photos and promised services and fees were correct. It was all Outcall, and some variation of rates, but all well below Toronto rates, and levels of certainty. Also tried out a group that had clearly real vs professional photos. They did have incall but I didn't use that approach. Some rare island related services, seemed on offer for next to nothing by most of the SP's. I thought that would be bait and switch (yes, the person that arrived from this group wasn't same as photos, even after sending proof photos), but she was cute enough. What was amazing, was the trip to the islands, was fun and clearly enjoyed by all involved. Suggest you give a Whatsapp call to someone at Laboutique.com just to see the results. I do think that Spanish will be 95%, and English 5-15% of the experience. As long as you're ok, giving it a go, i'm sure you'll figure it out in the moment. The SP that I met from LaBoutique, I told to dress conservatively, same as anyone in the street, so not to get a lot of attention in the lobby of the Hotel. Even with that, she received many turned heads, and stares, as she was that pretty. Also I found that the SP's are mostly Colombian and Venezuelan, which sets their prices above local Mexican SP's. Just the way they set their fees. Also alot of them have X or Twitter sites. Not the newest SP's on the site though. That is how I learned that they are real not fake. Lot's of short video clips to see they are not fakes.
 

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I've seen Vancouver mentioned and it is my preferred city as well. Toronto obviously has more providers, and better selection/prices but I find that Vancouver is a better city for hobbying.

Toronto is just too big and spread out for me so it's a hassle to get around to see providers. I've recently seen providers in Etobicoke, Scarborough, and Downtown. That's a lot of driving, negotiating traffic, finding the booking location, and parking, then hoping to get there on time. Contrast that to Vancouver where the majority of privates are located downtown and only 2-3 blocks from a skytrain station. Much more convenient for me.
 
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