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K Douglas

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I am no fan of AOC but the guy in the video is disgusting and
the harassment uncalled for. This guy is probably some obnoxious
right-wing troll seeking attention.
Aw c'mon O&G lighten up. The guy is like a Rick Mercer type. I actually found it quite funny.
 

Frankfooter

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Says the guy who didn't even know how expensive the tickets were but went on and on about them just being a pair of "free tickets" until I had to reveal the cost.
And you say I don't understand?
That's funny.

Maybe next time you want to challenge someone in a debate research the story beforehand so you aren't so unprepared.
She got the tickets for free because having AOC as a guest at the Met Gala is part of what makes the tickets valuable in the first place.
 

Skoob

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She got the tickets for free because having AOC as a guest at the Met Gala is part of what makes the tickets valuable in the first place.
Wrong.
She asked for those tickets.

Met Gala raised more money in past events and this one had nothing to do with her either way.

Let me know when you are done making excuses and inventing stuff that contradicts reality.
 

silentkisser

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No it's not the part of her budget to do as she pleases...it's a specific budget allocation by the House and Senate for interns that meet the criteria. She's not taking the money out of something else for this. You are wrong there.
You don't like the source I provided? Would you like a more centrist/left source? The same has been reported everywhere so if that would make you happy I can gladly provide it to remove the notion about right-wing views here.
It was an $80k night for her...tickets alone were $35k each so it's not a trivial amount. The point is the hypocrisy. That's the point that you are missing.
First, yes, pay is based on who the staffer works for. The congress person decides the amount, it is not a set pay scale. They can decide how big their staff is, or augment it with unpaid interns, which many do. AOC is one of the first (and might be the only) to pay her interns, because she recognized that only those from wealthy families could afford to live in Washington without pay. The specific budget she gets is from the government is hers to do as she pleases. Now, there are maximums that they can pay a person, but as far as I can find, there is no basement.

As for the Met Gala, the point you fail to grasp is that while optically it was bad, the reality is she was cleared by the ethics committee. As much as you would love to argue differently, that is just a fact.
 
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First, yes, pay is based on who the staffer works for. The congress person decides the amount, it is not a set pay scale. They can decide how big their staff is, or augment it with unpaid interns, which many do. AOC is one of the first (and might be the only) to pay her interns, because she recognized that only those from wealthy families could afford to live in Washington without pay. The specific budget she gets is from the government is hers to do as she pleases. Now, there are maximums that they can pay a person, but as far as I can find, there is no basement.

As for the Met Gala, the point you fail to grasp is that while optically it was bad, the reality is she was cleared by the ethics committee. As much as you would love to argue differently, that is just a fact.
She uses the money provided by Congress to pay her interns. That money is specifically for that purpose. She can decide how much but she isn't taking the money from somewhere else and re-allocating it. That's the detail & point you are missing here.

She wasn't cleared as the investigation & process has not been completed. The info I found on this is all from around March 2023 and I haven't seen anything more recent so if you have something that states she was cleared then please share it.

https://ethics.house.gov/press-rele...-committee-ethics-regarding-representative-70
 
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silentkisser

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She uses the money provided by Congress to pay her interns. That money is specifically for that purpose. She can decide how much but she isn't taking the money from somewhere else and re-allocating it. That's the detail & point you are missing here.

She wasn't cleared as the investigation & process has not been completed. The info I found on this is all from around March 2023 and I haven't seen anything more recent so if you have something that states she was cleared then please share it.

https://ethics.house.gov/press-rele...-committee-ethics-regarding-representative-70
First, I know the money comes from Congress. The point you seem to be missing is that many congresspeople do not pay their interns. I never said she was allocating it from somewhere else. What I am specifically saying is she made the decision to pay her interns when many just had some rich kid looking to make connections who would work for free. The point here is that someone who maybe middle or lower class gets an opportunity, and it breaks up the monied family monopoly on those types of positions.
 

Skoob

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First, yes, pay is based on who the staffer works for. The congress person decides the amount, it is not a set pay scale. They can decide how big their staff is, or augment it with unpaid interns, which many do. AOC is one of the first (and might be the only) to pay her interns, because she recognized that only those from wealthy families could afford to live in Washington without pay. The specific budget she gets is from the government is hers to do as she pleases. Now, there are maximums that they can pay a person, but as far as I can find, there is no basement.

As for the Met Gala, the point you fail to grasp is that while optically it was bad, the reality is she was cleared by the ethics committee. As much as you would love to argue differently, that is just a fact.
You said:
" But its the congress person's budget to do what they please with the money. That's why there are so many unpaid interns. They would rather pay or spend that money on other things, and don't give a fuck about the middle class kid who can't work in Washington for six months for free."

They can't use that money to pay for other things. They either pay their interns or don't use the money. Either way, she is using money that's been allocated for that purpose. Why some others don't is another issue but she's not a saint for using money that has been given to her to pay interns.

Show me where she was cleared by the ethics committee. I haven't seen anything about that and have only seen info about her being under review.
 
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They can't use that money to pay for other things. They either pay their interns or don't use the money. Either way, she is using money that's been allocated for that purpose. Why some others don't is another issue but she's not a saint for using money that has been given to her to pay interns.

Show me where she was cleared by the ethics committee. I haven't seen anything about that and have only seen info about her being under review.
She is almost entirely alone in actually paying her interns, nobody else that I know of does it.
Right wingers like you want to rip kids off but left wingers like AOC try to pay people decently for doing jobs.

Right wingers just want to free load off of kids.
 
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She is almost entirely alone in actually paying her interns, nobody else that I know of does it.
Right wingers like you want to rip kids off but left wingers like AOC try to pay people decently for doing jobs.

Right wingers just want to free load off of kids.
Paying her interns with money given to her specifically for that purpose by someone else and then violating ethics codes to get free stuff from others.
A true commie.
 

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Paying her interns with money given to her specifically for that purpose by someone else and then violating ethics codes to get free stuff from others.
A true commie.
Of course you are against paying people for work when you could force them to work for free.
Typical right winger, trying to get rich on the back of other people's work.

 

Skoob

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Of course you are against paying people for work when you could force them to work for free.
Typical right winger, trying to get rich on the back of other people's work.
More of your hallucinations...I never said to not pay people for their work. Some interns get paid some don't. Interns gain experience with the opportunities to work somewhere so they can eventually get a permanent job.

Why do you support people who violate ethics codes?
 
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Frankfooter

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More of your hallucinations...I never said to not pay people for their work. Some interns get paid some don't. Interns gain experience with the opportunities to work somewhere so they can eventually get a permanent job.

Why do you support people who violate ethics codes?
Sure you did, skooby poo, you said she was a commie for paying interns and that you'd just not pay them.
Right wingers always want to ride on other people's labour.

And you really think you are the one that doesn't support politicians that violate ethics codes?
 

Skoob

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Sure you did, skooby poo, you said she was a commie for paying interns and that you'd just not pay them.
Right wingers always want to ride on other people's labour.

And you really think you are the one that doesn't support politicians that violate ethics codes?
You are lying. I never said interns should be paid or not.
I said she is paying them with someone else's money.

You are lying because you have nothing left other than making shit up as usual.

I'll ask again...why do you support people who violate ethics codes?

Try to answer that without lying and distracting.
 
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Frankfooter

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You are lying. I never said interns should be paid or not.
I said she is paying them with someone else's money.

You are lying because you have nothing left other than making shit up as usual.

I'll ask again...why do you support people who violate ethics codes?

Try to answer that without lying and distracting.
You said she was a commie for paying interns.
Saying she was paid with someone else's money just says that you don't pay taxes and don't support paying taxes or paying for any services with taxes.

All you're doing is exposing your own hypocrisy, skooby poo.
 

Skoob

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You said she was a commie for paying interns.
Saying she was paid with someone else's money just says that you don't pay taxes and don't support paying taxes or paying for any services with taxes.

All you're doing is exposing your own hypocrisy, skooby poo.
No I said she was a commie. Not for paying students.
You are lying again.
Are you that desperate that you need to lie to feed your narrative?
 

Frankfooter

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No I said she was a commie. Not for paying students.
You are lying again.
Are you that desperate that you need to lie to feed your narrative?
She's everything you think politicians should be, rising from being poor, educating herself and standing her ground.
Instead you back rich elitists who punish workers.

 
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