Joe Biden ruled as too incompetent to face charges

[Frankfooter]

You're starting to take posting lessons from Frankie.

You mean providing counter arguments you can't answer to?

 

[Valcazar]

I agree with you, but I think a "not Biden, not Trump" campaign by an established political player would have amazing appeal.

Maybe.
But I can't think of a single person who would try and could pull it off this late.

I still believe one way or another Biden will not be the Democratic nominee.

I find this fascinating.
I don't see why anyone still thinks it won't be Biden vs Trump (outside of the straight up "one dies or suffers a serious injury").

 

[Valcazar]

I said I thought the immigration deal was a good compromise.

The circumstances of tying the Southern border to funding other foreign crises was not a good idea. In an election year, the Republicans should have made the Biden Administration come to them. That's just smart political negotiating in my opinion.

But you characterized it as the Biden Administration having to be dragged kicking and screaming to the negotiation table.
They were already there, the GOP just decided to demand something on foreign policy instead.

Let me ask you a question since you and I can have honest political talks without undo campaigning and criticism. Do you think the border deal falling apart will hurt Republicans in November?

My opinion is that any time Biden and his surrogates are talking about the border it's a bad thing for the campaign. So at best, you might have some House races where moderate Democrats can try to leverage the issue. It's still a tricky talking point for the Dems though. Most voters find immigration laws arcane. I think the take from some media that Suozzi was able to leverage the issue to win back his vacated seat is overstated.

I don't think it will have a lot of effect, no.
Most GOP supporters don't actually care what their representatives do as long as it is "own the libs" so as long as the GOP can say "we had to do it because Dems are bad" they will buy it.

The few who care about the border as a real issue and not just "all immigrants are bad and we should get rid of them" might be upset.

I think it does help some more independent "don't pay much attention" types if the narrative "We had a deal, one they asked for, but they tanked it because Trump told them to" sticks.
Places committed to a partisan view aren't going to see much effect, I think.

 

[squeezer]

Mitt Romney endorses good ole JOE!!!!!

go to 7.47 to hear the question

Would you vote for Trump over Joe

Mitt- no no no, lmao....

 

[Dutch Oven]

Mitt Romney endorses good ole JOE!!!!!

go to 7.47 to hear the question

Would you vote for Trump over Joe

Mitt- no no no, lmao....

Mitt Romney has an amazing record of managing to be on the wrong side of almost every issue. It seems his failed bid for the Presidency broke him.

 

[squeezer]

Mitt Romney has an amazing record of managing to be on the wrong side of almost every issue. It seems his failed bid for the Presidency broke him.

Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and Cassidy Hutchinson add to a growing list of Repugs backing good old JOE BIDEN. Liz who voted on Trump policies 92% of the time has seen the light after witnessing a POTUS trying to steal an election and circumvent the votes of a democratic country.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and Cassidy Hutchinson add to a growing list of Repugs backing good old JOE BIDEN. Liz who voted on Trump policies 92% of the time has seen the light after witnessing a POTUS trying to steal an election and circumvent the votes of a democratic country.

To turn a phrase - with enemies like these, who needs friends!?

Liz Cheney has seen a light, but it's a train steaming from the other end of the tunnel of her political career!

 

[WyattEarp]

Mitt Romney has an amazing record of managing to be on the wrong side of almost every issue. It seems his failed bid for the Presidency broke him.

In the 2012 Presidential debates, Romney warned Americans of the Russian threat. Obama dismissed this basically as old school, cold war thinking. About a year and a half later, Russia invaded Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine.

I point this out because sometimes Romney gets it right. The two candidate's position on Russia in 2012 is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/mitt-romney-russia-ukraine/index.html

 

[mandrill]

In the 2012 Presidential debates, Romney warned Americans of the Russian threat. Obama dismissed this basically as old school, cold war thinking. About a year and a half later, Russia invaded Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine.

I point this out because sometimes Romney gets it right. The two candidate's position on Russia in 2012 is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/mitt-romney-russia-ukraine/index.html

To be fair, no one in 2012 expected Crimea to happen. There were a series of events - Yanukevich's turnaround on Ukrainian integration with the EU, Euro Maidan, the overthrow of Y, the new government and its refusal to allow the Russian Navy to retain Sevastopol, etc.

Are you seriously arguing that Romney crystal-balled that whole series of events??

 

[mandrill]

To turn a phrase - with enemies like these, who needs friends!?

Liz Cheney has seen a light, but it's a train steaming from the other end of the tunnel of her political career!

Says the guy who still argues that the 2020 election was "stolen"....

 

[mandrill]

In fairness, Joe Biden is notoriously bad at breaking into cars to steal credit cards.

 

[squeezer]

In the 2012 Presidential debates, Romney warned Americans of the Russian threat. Obama dismissed this basically as old school, cold war thinking. About a year and a half later, Russia invaded Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine.

I point this out because sometimes Romney gets it right. The two candidate's position on Russia in 2012 is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/mitt-romney-russia-ukraine/index.html

I have never agreed with Mitt's policies but at least he is a man of principle

To turn a phrase - with enemies like these, who needs friends!?

Liz Cheney has seen a light, but it's a train steaming from the other end of the tunnel of her political career!

UNLIKE the orange stain.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Says the guy who still argues that the 2020 election was "stolen"....

C'mon Mandrill, you ought to know better. You're appropriating Squeezer's act!

 

[Dutch Oven]

In the 2012 Presidential debates, Romney warned Americans of the Russian threat. Obama dismissed this basically as old school, cold war thinking. About a year and a half later, Russia invaded Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine.

I point this out because sometimes Romney gets it right. The two candidate's position on Russia in 2012 is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/mitt-romney-russia-ukraine/index.html

Thus, my use of "almost".

 

[WyattEarp]

To be fair, no one in 2012 expected Crimea to happen. There were a series of events - Yanukevich's turnaround on Ukrainian integration with the EU, Euro Maidan, the overthrow of Y, the new government and its refusal to allow the Russian Navy to retain Sevastopol, etc.

Are you seriously arguing that Romney crystal-balled that whole series of events??

You have to give some credit to someone who had good insight on an issue. Better to have insight than no sight.

Russia had already encroached on Georgia's territory. Of course, you could say that if Russia got everything they wanted from and within the Ukraine maybe there would not have been a war. The Russian's conditioned Ukrainian sovereignty on subordination.

 

[mandrill]

You have to give some credit to someone who had good insight on an issue. Better to have insight than no sight.

Russia had already encroached on Georgia's territory. Of course, you could say that if Russia got everything they wanted from and within the Ukraine maybe there would not have been a war. The Russian's conditioned Ukrainian sovereignty on subordination.

Maybe not initially. Euro Maidan was shocking to a lot of Russian-identifying Ukrainians. I lost a buddy who was a Russian-identifying guy from Donetsk who couldn't handle Kiyev gravitating towards the EU and away from Moscow.

 

[The Oracle]

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Bad actors and their stuntman

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Bad actors and their stuntman
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Look how the expression shows dominance. Donnie looks like a school girl wating to see of she gets kissed or dumped. Putin is giving the I own you look and you don't dare fuck with me

 

[Valcazar]

In the 2012 Presidential debates, Romney warned Americans of the Russian threat. Obama dismissed this basically as old school, cold war thinking. About a year and a half later, Russia invaded Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine.

I point this out because sometimes Romney gets it right. The two candidate's position on Russia in 2012 is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/mitt-romney-russia-ukraine/index.html

This is one that I had to eat crow on.
I thought he was just being weird about the past with some view to a Reagan like worldview or something, but he was right that Putin was going to be a problem in a way I underestimated.