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Not getting younger

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Says a clown that knows squat, pretends a lot, stalks people, and can’t even grasp in a thread about brutal polls and disadvantaged flat earthers…..

think about it Frankie Avalon, while you might be Mickey Mouse, this isn’t Disney land.
 
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The ICJ ruling is a repudiation of Israel and its western backers

The public posture of various Israeli officials was, in essence: how dare anyone accuse us of genocide. After all, they pointed out, Israel was founded after the Holocaust to protect the Jewish people from genocide, Hamas attacked Israel on 7 October, and many of Hamas’s statements seem genocidal in intent.

Yet none of that is a defense to the charge of genocide. Regardless of Israel’s history, regardless of its claim of self-defense, the means chosen to fight Hamas can still be genocidal. The court found enough merit in that claim to recognize that Palestinian civilians need the court’s protection.

The court’s ruling was also a repudiation of Israel’s western backers. The Biden administration had called the suit “meritless”. The British government said it was “nonsense”. By a vote of 15 to 2, the ICJ judges found otherwise.

The court’s brief ruling implicitly rejected key elements of the Israeli defense. The Israeli lawyers had emphasized that Hamas uses human shields and fights from populated areas, but the court implicitly found those facts insufficient to justify the massive loss of civilian life caused by such practices as dropping huge 2,000lb bombs in heavily populated areas.

The Israeli lawyers had stressed that Israel is allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza, but UN officials were unequivocal in describing how the drips and drabs of aid allowed, and the bureaucratic obstacles mounted to its delivery, had left the civilian population on the brink of catastrophe.

The lawyers noted that in many instances Israeli forces have acted to protect Palestinian civilian life, but genocide can be committed against only part of a population. The Israeli government may have been causing just enough devastation to force Palestinians out of Gaza, as several ministers have suggested.

One of the most powerful parts of the South African case had been its citation of the statements of senior Israeli officials to show genocidal intent. The Israel government had tried to explain those statements away by suggesting they were made in the heat of the moment and were contradicted by formal secret orders from the Israeli cabinet that it had delivered to the court.

The court was unpersuaded, citing the statement of Defense Minister Yoav Gallant – a central figure in the chain of command – that he had “released all restraints” and that Israel was fighting “human animals”. The court also cited President Issac Herzog’s statement: “It is an entire nation out there that is responsible. It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved.”

Some were disappointed that the ICJ did not order a ceasefire, a step that was unlikely because the court addresses only disputes between states, so Hamas was not a party. A ceasefire imposed on only one side to an ongoing armed conflict is not plausible.


Are you talking to me or are you just talking to anyone? If you are talking to me quote me. And to this question, see my previous response.


This is why you just ignore Not Getting Younger. Because he is not getting any wiser either. 😂
You said Isreal lost the unfortunate war…you can’t grasp in this world of 8b people and politics…if that was even remotely accurate….things would be very very different.

you then post a meaningless infographic in a world of 8b people as some kind of proof, and you know what your talking about. The same meaningless infographic also demanded an immediate ceasefire.

how’s it working?

Stop changing the channel.
 
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Frankfooter

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You said Isreal lost the unfortunate war…you can’t grasp in this world of 8b people and politics…

you post a meaningless infographic in a world of 8b people as some kind of proof, you know what your talking about. The same meaningless infographic also demanded an immediate ceasefire.

how’s it working.

Stop changing the channel.
The world.

 

Not getting younger

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The world.

A list of countries. With how many people in them in Einstein? Yet you think that list speak for the populace of each. Is representative of reality? “Get a grip”?

Maybe you and Kautilya need to learn what the meaning of the world means? I dunno.

Maybe you’ll answer what Kautilya is too afraid to. How’s the demanded ceasefire working?
 
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Frankfooter

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A list of countries. With how many people in them in Einstein. Yet you think that list speak for the populace of each. Is representative of reality? “Get a grip”?

Maybe you and Kautilya need to learn what the meaning of the world means? I dunno.
Feel free to count the total population of those countries that voted for Palestine vs those who voted against.
We all know that's way beyond you.

First person that Israel needs to arrest for inciting genocide in order to abide by the ICJ ruling.
 
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Sigh. India and China are in there. Voting in favour. That is 40% of the world. Just 2 countries. Feel free to count the rest. You were saying what about representation? You need to seriously work on your comprehension and communication skills.
Yeah, but Israel has Micronesia AND Nauru on their side.
That's gotta be 95% of the world using ngy math.
 

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Sigh. India and China are in there. Voting in favour. That is 40% of the world. Just 2 countries. Feel free to count the rest. You were saying what about representation? You need to seriously work on your comprehension and communication skills.
how’s the ceasefire working Einstein?
 

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Stop changing the channel.

How’s the ceasefire working? You weren’t smart enough to read or think about.

Hardly Einstein, use your brain. If the world…

And for all your whining about ceasefire about peace, and much much more the past 5 months….what have you accomplished.

nada.
Gaza is flat, rubble. And Isreal will back off when they are ready. Already are.
 

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Feel free to count the total population of those countries that voted for Palestine vs those who voted against.
We all know that's way beyond you.

First person that Israel needs to arrest for inciting genocide in order to abide by the ICJ ruling.
I’m sure South Africa will cite this when Israel has to report back to the ICJ in 30 days indicating how they are abiding by the South African led ICJ ruling. South Africa gets to review Israel’s report and the court can order further measures.

South Africa has Israel over a barrel.
 

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They gave directives, and ignoring these directives will infuence their ruling. In any case anything that is accepted as evidence at the ICJ can be used as evidence in many other courts.
So I just didn't get enough evidence to call ceasefire? Wtf was the trial for? Ceasefire. and icj didn't feel ceasefire is necessary...who looked stupid in the end?
 

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In any event, I doubt Israel find this ruling laughable, even as our esteemed college Mandy does,:

The State of Israel shall, in accordance with its obligations under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular:

(1)
(a) killing members of the group;
(b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; and
(d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(2) ,

The State of Israel shall ensure with immediate effect that its military does not commit any acts described in point 1 above;

(3)
The State of Israel shall take all measures within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip;

(4)
The State of Israel shall take immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip;
It is as close to a call for a ceasefire as possible without calling for one.

Canada should be very careful from now on. One day it will be accused of complicity for war crimes and genocide at the ICJ.
 
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