Ukraine the forgotten war.....

SchlongConery

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You really think the Ukrainian war is funny?

Typical Russian laughing at hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen being sent to certain death in a 'meat grinder'.

So deep runs the pathological Russian disregard for human life that the phrase 'being ordered into the Meat Grinder' was created by Russians themselves.

You perfectly illustrate the Russian societal desire to expend their efforts at any level to make the life of their neighbours worse rather than improve their own. And I'm talking actual neighbours in the apartment next door.

As I've said all along...Putin is effectively neutering and destroying Russia. I'd like to say that he is (re)creating needless hatred towards Russian people for generations to come. But, you prove that this grotesque, (I can't find rich enough words to describe) the Russian attitude is not a bug created by Putin. It's a feature.

Disgusts me and normal, civilized humanity to realize people like you (and John Wayne Gacy) walk amongst us in the beautiful freedom of Western society.

 
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SchlongConery

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Seeing you think it's funny that your Russian Master Strategist Putin's war is so funny... let's make this a joke thread.

Let's start with not forgetting the mighty 🤣 Russian military!

Russia 2021: second strongest army in world

2022: second strongest army in Ukraine

2023: second strongest army in Russia
 

SchlongConery

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Hey boi!

You'd fit right in on the battlefield! Why are you banging on your keyboard instead of enjoying the Russki Mir!

"It’s a story with terror, cowardice, betrayal, cruel determination ... and exploding heads."

 

nottyboi

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Hey boi!

You'd fit right in on the battlefield! Why are you banging on your keyboard instead of enjoying the Russki Mir!

"It’s a story with terror, cowardice, betrayal, cruel determination ... and exploding heads."

Why would I go fight for Russia, I have no stake in either Russia or Ukraine. All I am is an observer and call the facts as I see it. Urkaine never had any chance. Never.
 

Paprika

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Why gives a fuck about these ski ov and vich? All the same shit to me. Let them duke it out, the more dead the better, both were part of the USSR.
 

oil&gas

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Why gives a fuck about these ski ov and vich? All the same shit to me. Let them duke it out, the more dead the better, both were part of the USSR.

We as Canadian citizens should care about the war for our
government is fueling a conflict 8,000 km away at taxpayers'
expense.

Saying the more dead on both sides of the conflict the better
is harsh although there is some truth to it. In fact military and
economic support of Ukraine hinges on the willingness of
Ukrainian soldiers to fight the Russians to their death. But remember
at some point Ukraine will run out of soldiers willing to die.
The consequence won't be pretty to NATO members.
 
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oil&gas

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Why would I go fight for Russia, I have no stake in either Russia or Ukraine. All I am is an observer and call the facts as I see it. Urkaine never had any chance. Never.
The likelihood of our soldiers fighting *against* Russia to
escalate the U.S. proxy war is greater the longer the war
drags on. I won't worry about having to fight for Russia.
Russian population is nearly 4 times larger given that more
than 6 million has already fled Ukraine on top of the number of
soldiers already dead. Numerical superiority is now clearly
on the side of Russia. Manpower shortage is not their
concern. Odds of the U.S. and Russia making nice after
the war is as great as NATO troops coming to Zelensky's
rescue IMO.
 

NotADcotor

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Why would I go fight for Russia, I have no stake in either Russia or Ukraine. All I am is an observer and call the facts as I see it. Urkaine never had any chance. Never.
For a country with no chance, things are pretty stable and if the west would get off their asses and double down Russia would be fucked. Russia's only chance is the election of Trump and when your hopes ride on a narcissistic pathologically lying traitor...

Also double plus ironic as the reason coverage has died down is because stalemate and nothing to report... this is not what it looks like when one had never had any chance ever.
 
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NotADcotor

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We as Canadian citizens should care about the war for our
government is fueling a conflict 8,000 km away at taxpayers'
expense.

Saying the more dead on both sides of the conflict the better
is harsh although there is some truth to it. In fact military and
economic support of Ukraine hinges on the willingness of
Ukrainian soldiers to fight the Russians to their death. But remember
at some point Ukraine will run out of soldiers willing to die.
The consequence won't be pretty to NATO members.
The likelihood of our soldiers fighting *against* Russia to
escalate the U.S. proxy war is greater the longer the war
drags on. I won't worry about having to fight for Russia.
Russian population is nearly 4 times larger given that more
than 6 million has already fled Ukraine on top of the number of
soldiers already dead. Numerical superiority is now clearly
on the side of Russia. Manpower shortage is not their
concern. Odds of the U.S. and Russia making nice after
the war is as great as NATO troops coming to Zelensky's
rescue IMO.
Except Ukraine is fighting to expel a foreign invader who has done much evil in their country. Russians don't quite have the same skin in the game.

The US had a much bigger capacity and kill ratio in Korea but they settled on a stalemate.
The had the population advantage over Vietnam but 50000 body bags for a country across a big ass ocean and they lost it, not in the field but in the halls of power.
At the rate the bodies are piling up, Ukraine won't run out of people anytime soon, every year a new conscript pool comes of age and if you take WWI and WWII standards, Ukraine is nowhere near calling up 10% of it's population. The limit, much like with Russia is giving them proper equipment to fight with. Considering Russia is down to bringing T54/55s into the fight and maybe maybe not using North Korean shells which are more danger to them and their arty barrels than Ukraine, I wouldn't have much of a hard on for their continued ability to make like smash. Western production is increasing in stuff like shells and the US has a fuckton of equipment sitting in the nice dry desert actually being maintained.

That is where one side or the other will fail, in equipment not bodies... and I don't mean rifles but the bigger stuff that does a lot of the heavy lifting in smashing shit up. Unless of course one side or the other can get a big burly Irishman with Mr Nock's gun, then it's over.


 

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Why gives a fuck about these ski ov and vich? All the same shit to me. Let them duke it out, the more dead the better, both were part of the USSR.
The reason we are paying more for food is that Ukraine is the world's largest exporter of sunflower oil (50% of world exports), the third largest one of barley (18%), the fourth largest one of maize (16%) and the fifth largest one of wheat (12%). In 2021 Ukraine exported cereals worth almost $12 billion (about €11.5 billion) It is also an important global producer for a couple of primary raw materials (titanium minerals, kaolin, manganese, iron, uranium and zircon). Russia and Ukraine produce 25% of the world's fertilizer. So what happens on the other side of the world does affect us here.
 
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squeezer

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You really think Russia wasting more dirt cheap drones
will be a serious setback to them?
Well, OIl, it seems to me, that whatever Putin comes up with, the West is still helping your bestie Zelenski with some new shiny toys.
 

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The war won't be forgotten altogether so long
as there are bills to foot.
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Should US Taxpayers Cover Ukraine’s Pensions?
Mark D Joffe, Jan 05, 2024


Thus far, the US federal government has spent about $9 billion on Ukrainian pensions. If Congress approves President Biden’s next supplemental aid package, the Ukrainian pension payments will continue at a rate of up to $600 million per month. Previous reports of this spending have raised eyebrows. Critics argue that the US should shore up its own retirement system before bailing out that of a foreign nation.

The pension spending is part of a larger effort by the United States and the World Bank to stabilize Ukrainian government finances during the war. Ukraine was already running deficits before Russia invaded in February 2022, but since then, the gap between revenues and expenditures has widened. According to IMF data, Ukraine’s general government financing gap increased from 4.0 percent of Gross Domestic Product in 2021 to 18.6 percent of GDP in 2023. The gap would have been much wider had the World Bank not injected foreign funds, primarily from the US, into the nation’s government sector.

Despite the large deficit, Ukraine’s price inflation is only moderate, most recently estimated at 5.1 percent annually. Ukraine is not having to print money to cover its budget deficits because it is also receiving loans from the IMF and other international financial institutions. Unless Ukraine’s economy improves, these loans will have to be written down, ultimately adding to the costs borne by US taxpayers.

About 10 million Ukrainians – more than a quarter of the country’s 36.7 million people – receive pensions. This high level of pension dependency is the result of Ukraine’s aging population and the relatively low eligibility age. While Americans become eligible for full social security benefits only at age 66-1/2 (increasing to 67 in 2027), the retirement age in Ukraine is 60. Also, Ukraine’s government provides pensions to certain categories of younger people including survivors, the disabled, and those working in certain privileged professions. Those professions include teachers, doctors, artists, and public transportation drivers. Individuals working in these fields for a sufficient number of years are able to retire at 50 or 55.

But the average pension is only $146 per month. Like other former Soviet states, Ukraine has a high rate of old age poverty. Under Communism and in its immediate aftermath, most people did not earn enough to save for retirement. The elderly must either rely on meager state pensions or work. The latter option may be difficult for the many older Ukrainians in poor physical condition.

So, while it is unfair to force American taxpayers to pay Ukrainian pensions (or those of any foreign country), ending support could result in real human suffering. Further, if we had a choice of being taxed to pay for weapons or taxed to pay for pensions, many of us who favor peace would likely prefer the latter.

Peace is a much better solution to Ukraine’s pension problems. A durable ceasefire would allow most soldiers to return to the private economy and would encourage many refugees to return. Their return to the private workforce would generate more domestic tax revenue to fund the nation’s pensions without foreign support. What a great combination: peace and lower taxes for Americans.

Ending US budget support would also oblige Ukraine officials to take a more critical look at who should be on the pension rolls. The government might increase the retirement age closer to US levels and eliminate profession-based pension privileges.

While war advocates emphasize that extending hostilities will weaken Russia, it also weakens Ukraine. The quicker the war ends, the greater the chance that Ukraine’s economy can get back on its feet and support those retirees who absolutely cannot survive on their own.


 

NotADcotor

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Hey if they are willing to spill their blood, what's a little treasure on our part to keep Poutine distracted from thinking the Potato Union and Finland might be tasty snacks and to keep him further away from the Polish, Slovak and Romanian borders [fuck Hungry]
In the grand scheme of things the mount being sent over is a very small fraction of total military spending and is quite frankly doing a lot more than it would supplying armies just sitting around.

So sure, let's help them with civil affairs. Marshall up that plan. If anyone deserves it...
 

squeezer

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Notti, please reach out to your leader Putin and let us know wtf is going on

OOOOOOPS, fuck, they dropped bombs on themselves. I bet Putin is really a Zelensky worshipper


It sounds like a very confident leader of Ukraine, NOTTI, you need to reach out to Putin. Please note I specifically used Aljazeera clips so you can't scream Western propaganda. I'm sorry for the roadblock.


 
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