Negotiating Prices

[Scholar]

Good afternoon all.

Just want to start by saying outright that I have never tried to negotiate rates. I pay what is stated, but I also avoid SP's who have a list of extras.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way...here is my question.

Assuming you book an SP who has a list of optional addons (CIM, CIMSW, COF, BBBJ, etc...), is it still negotiating if you put a few extras on top of the session fee but ask for a combo price for the extras only?

Ok, it's obviously still negotiating but is it any more or less acceptable? In my view, you are basically just checking to see if there is a combo price. Like going to a restaurant (McD's, Wendy's, et al.) and noticing that the price of a combo (burger, fries, and a drink) is less than the sum of it's parts.

I'm asking after reading this review - https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/sexii-jane-3616-bad-experience.833309/#post-8199924

The OP of the review basically negotiated the rate with addon's and is getting mixed reactions. This way we can have the discussion without speaking about any specific SP.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter.

 

[oakvilleguy]

unless the lady comes right out and gives a “combo” price, then I’d say everything is a la carte and not negotiable

 

[Josephine]

He is nickle and dimming her in a shitty economy in which somes are getting desperate or may be tempted to accept less just to make a profit. I think the OP knows it. + the derogatory comments about her body and him staying anyways just to write a bad review about it after.

There is a ton of things to unpack in this review and this is not only about haggling there.

I would at least not use this review to make an example. As a woman I feel bad for Jane everytime I read it. Being stuck in a room with someone you don't like and who doesn't like you but stayed for the price is horrible.

We are still human and this is a huge no. At least for me.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

It is not good etiquette to haggle over price for any product or service unless you are in the market place in Morocco and there is a camel dropping a diarrhea plot next to your foot. If you want enhanced pricing you may negotiate for q quantity discount if you are willing to take more hours or multiple or regular meetings. A good deal is when both parties are happy. Let the other party accept or reject and make the price.

 

[stinkynuts]

I very rarely negotiate, but have done so on a couple occasions, where they were asking for way above market value for certain services. I only asked for $20 off a $500 fee though.

 

[xix]

I very rarely negotiate, but have done so on a couple occasions, where they were asking for way above market value for certain services. I only asked for $20 off a $500 fee though.

I am curious to know what did you negotiated about and for?

 

[MarcoHardOnFire]

It‘s a service for hire. Just like any other service for hire you can ask to negotiate; you may make some headway or you may get told to take a hike. Both sides are free to conduct business as they see fit.

 

[xmontrealer]

I very rarely negotiate, but have done so on a couple occasions, where they were asking for way above market value for certain services. I only asked for $20 off a $500 fee though.

Wow. Was saving $20 on $500 worth getting off on the wrong foot?

On a bit of a tangent, as the old saying goes "Never steal less than a year's salary..."

 

[stinkynuts]

Wow. Was saving $20 on $500 worth getting off on the wrong foot?

On a bit of a tangent, as the old saying goes "Never steal less than a year's salary..."

Well, it was a situation, where the hourly rate was $300, recording was $150, and cim was $70, so I just asked if she could round it to $500, and she was more than happy to.

 

[Fun For All]

Wow. Was saving $20 on $500 worth getting off on the wrong foot?

On a bit of a tangent, as the old saying goes "Never steal less than a year's salary..."

No kidding…piss her off from the start…it’s hard enough to get some SPs into it and this wouldn’t help.

 

[xmontrealer]

Well, it was a situation, where the hourly rate was $300, recording was $150, and cim was $70, so I just asked if she could round it to $500, and she was more than happy to.

More understandable, but if I could afford 500 or 520 for a session (which I can't), I wouldn't negotiate for 20, or anything at all. Just not worth the chance of her taking offense and giving less than her best efforts.

I have been seeing an sp whose agency raised her from 250/hour to 290. She said she didn't want to charge me her new rate in case I might stop seeing her because of it. I told her she is certainly worth the new rate to me, and insisted on paying the full 290. The first time I saw her after the increase I put down five fifties and two twenties. She handed back the two twenties to me right away. Of course I gave them right back to her and told her I meant what I said.

 

[oakvilleguy]

More understandable, but if I could afford 500 or 520 for a session (which I can't), I wouldn't negotiate for 20, or anything at all. Just not worth the chance of her taking offense and giving less than her best efforts.

I have been seeing an sp whose agency raised her from 250/hour to 290. She said she didn't want to charge me her new rate in case I might stop seeing her because of it. I told her she is certainly worth the new rate to me, and insisted on paying the full 290. The first time I saw her after the increase I put down five fifties and two twenties. She handed back the two twenties to me right away. Of course I gave them right back to her and told her I meant what I said.

Good of you to pay the new rate as I’m sure a portion of the increase would have gone to the agency and she would have been out of pocket if she only charged you the old rate.

 

[Mr Deeds]

It is not good etiquette to haggle over price for any product or service unless you are in the market place in Morocco and there is a camel dropping a diarrhea plot next to your foot. If you want enhanced pricing you may negotiate for q quantity discount if you are willing to take more hours or multiple or regular meetings. A good deal is when both parties are happy. Let the other party accept or reject and make the price.

Don't agree, there are plenty of areas where negotiating is acceptable such as realistate,contractors, airlines who screw-up. However negotiating for personal services such as pay for play is never acceptable. Years ago when the girls who work for me at my MPS would have someone who want a service is basically for nothing I would just tell the girls to walk out and let me handle it. I would then politely ask the guy to leave.

 

[Indy-Escorts]

He is nickle and dimming her in a shitty economy in which somes are getting desperate or may be tempted to accept less just to make a profit. I think the OP knows it. + the derogatory comments about her body and him staying anyways just to write a bad review about it after.

There is a ton of things to unpack in this review and this is not only about haggling there.

I would at least not use this review to make an example. As a woman I feel bad for Jane everytime I read it. Being stuck in a room with someone you don't like and who doesn't like you but stayed for the price is horrible.

We are still human and this is a huge no. At least for me.

Exactly. He kept saying that if she didn't like the rate she agreed to, she should not have taken the appointment yet he bashes her looks from the start so my question is, if he truly felt that way, why did he go through it with himself? He kept saying she had an option, yet so did he.

And from his boasting, he knows how the game works. He completely took advantage of her and the economic position that many escorts are in right now. In my opinion personally. He is someone I have no problem blacklisting, even though he thinks no one will.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

If you do not agree, you clearly did not understand. The OP asked if the SP would take $500 for the originally asked for price of $520. she agreed and both parties were happy. A trifling $20 would not have made a big difference to either persons. Asking for a 50% discount would be outrageous. Being polite and diplomatic is a much better approach. If a client asked for a lower price if he was a regular and the SP made a slightly discounted price per visit. Both parties will be happy with the arrangement.

In this bad economy I am sure many clients and SPs would welcome such a deal. The SP would also be incentivized to be more attentive to keep a regular client.

 

[Scholar]

He is nickle and dimming her in a shitty economy in which somes are getting desperate or may be tempted to accept less just to make a profit. I think the OP knows it. + the derogatory comments about her body and him staying anyways just to write a bad review about it after.

There is a ton of things to unpack in this review and this is not only about haggling there.

I would at least not use this review to make an example. As a woman I feel bad for Jane everytime I read it. Being stuck in a room with someone you don't like and who doesn't like you but stayed for the price is horrible.

We are still human and this is a huge no. At least for me.

Apologies. I linked that thread because I wanted to discuss the idea without referencing that specific event. I agree that insulting her looks was in bad taste, it was more the fact that he was asking for a cheaper upsell for the extras that he wanted.

 

[Scholar]

Exactly. He kept saying that if she didn't like the rate she agreed to, she should not have taken the appointment yet he bashes her looks from the start so my question is, if he truly felt that way, why did he go through it with himself? He kept saying she had an option, yet so did he.

And from his boasting, he knows how the game works. He completely took advantage of her and the economic position that many escorts are in right now. In my opinion personally. He is someone I have no problem blacklisting, even though he thinks no one will.

SP's are not minimum wage workers. I have a very hard time accepting the concept that they are in a hard financial position. Especially the one in question who, I believe, had a hh rate of $150 + the extras. I doubt most on this board are making that kind of an hourly rate. But, this question wasn't about the amount of money that is charged, it is about when and where negotiations are acceptable and it seems like the general consensus is that it is never acceptable to negotiate?

 

[squeezer]

I would never negotiate. If I don't agree with the fee, I just don't bother booking and find a provider I think is better value.

 

[Scholar]

It is not good etiquette to haggle over price for any product or service unless you are in the market place in Morocco and there is a camel dropping a diarrhea plot next to your foot. If you want enhanced pricing you may negotiate for q quantity discount if you are willing to take more hours or multiple or regular meetings. A good deal is when both parties are happy. Let the other party accept or reject and make the price.

I thought the idea was in any good negotiation, neither party is entirely happy but both are willing to work under the arrangement.

 

[squeezer]

I thought the idea was in any good negotiation, neither party is entirely happy but both are willing to work under the arrangement.

Do you want to be with a lady in an intimate situation who is not happy and a little annoyed with you? I don't, it's a boner killer.