Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

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No one in the middle east listens or gives any fucks about what Canadians "demand".
Calling for a cease fire is nothing more than political virtue signalling, appealing to a voter base.
 
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I Pity you Franky I really do...you are in some kind of trance where all you see is a justification of massage because you really believe Israel is an evil country consists of eviil people where in reality its a nation trying to survive from the aggression from its neighbors in all sides...there's a reason they have bomb shelters, they built the iron dome, they require their citizens to be called for duty to serve...in your head all of these are somehow to get rid of Palestinians.....I got news for you, the Palestinians don't want peace...that's why they chose Hamas...they celebrated the atrocities that hamas committed....this is war now...there will be collateral damage, tin every war someone will lose...one aide will inflict more damage to bring his enemy into submission...how far will Hamas prolong the gazans suffering? Release the hostages and call for ceasefire...that's what Hamas should do...not keep firing rockets....
 
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I Pity you Franky I really do...you are in some kind of trance where all you see is a justification of massage because you really believe Israel is an evil country consists of eviil people where in reality its a nation trying to survive from the aggression from its neighbors in all sides...there's a reason they have bomb shelters, they built the iron dome, they require their citizens to be called for duty to serve...in your head all of these are somehow to get rid of Palestinians.....I got news for you, the Palestinians don't want peace...that's why they chose Hamas...they celebrated the atrocities that hamas committed....this is war now...there will be collateral damage, tin every war someone will lose...one aide will inflict more damage to bring his enemy into submission...how far will Hamas prolong the gazans suffering? Release the hostages and call for ceasefire...that's what Hamas should do...not keep firing rockets....
Your racism won't win.
You represent a tiny minority of people who use violence to defend racism.

 

mandrill

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Ok that is the dumbest post ever. The deaths in Syria were a civil war. Syrians and Jihadis were killing each other egged on by the west. Yemen was a Saudi-Iran proxy war. There was an uproar over myanmar. But the fact is, we are in a video world today. and you cannot hide the pictures and videos of the horror anymore. Another big difference is the openly stated goals of genicode by the Natanyahooo cabal
This is what it comes down to for you, isn't it?

You don't give a shit about black on black, yellow on yellow and brown on brown mass violence.

But the very second a white person says "Boo!" to a non white, you're going on a protest march and ranting about "genocide and colonialism"!
 
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Ohh yaaa lets just defeat Hamas. Just like we sent NATO to Afghanistan to defeat the Taliaban. WTF are people no longer capable of learning?
Except it's pretty likely that HAMAS really will be defeated though. In the sense of being physically exterminated in its stronghold of Gaza. The billionaire HAMAS leaders will continue to live in palaces in Yemen and Turkey and university professors will continue to rant to first year poli sci students about "freeing Palestine", but the actual bomb throwers and rocket firers and the AK carrying thugs who raped tortured and killed innocent Israeli civilians are going to be very, very dead and very, very soon. Thank fuck.
 
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Except it's pretty likely that HAMAS really will be defeated though. In the sense of being physically exterminated in its stronghold of Gaza. The billionaire HAMAS leaders will continue to live in palaces in Yemen and Turkey and university professors will continue to rant to first year poli sci students about "freeing Palestine", but the actual bomb throwers and rocket firers and the AK carrying thugs who raped tortured and killed innocent Israeli civilians are going to be very, very dead and very, very soon. Thank fuck.
No, Hamas won't be 'exterminated'.
But even if you killed all of Hamas you'll just create a new generation of orphaned Palestinians who hate zionism.


How is killing babies going to help Israel become safe and liked?
 

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Your racism won't win.
You represent a tiny minority of people who use violence to defend racism.

What racism... I always acknowledged civilians on both sides are victims of the atrocities of hamas....you somehow brush aside the fact that there are still Israelis held captives by hamas....kids women...you cry and cry about ceasefire...Hamas is still firing rockets...they still have hostages....would you prefer them to keep firing rockets and keep the hostages? What do you think is their part in this?
 
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No, Hamas won't be 'exterminated'.
But even if you killed all of Hamas you'll just create a new generation of orphaned Palestinians who hate zionism.


How is killing babies going to help Israel become safe and liked?
Frankie, the OBVIOUS strategy of HAMAS is to show endless "wounded child" videos. HAMAS leadership has no strategy to successfully resist the IDF attack. They don't give a fuck about the ordinary people. They are prepared to kill as many babies as it takes to get increased attention in the west.
 
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What racism... I always acknowledged civilians on both sides are victims of the atrocities of hamas....you somehow brush aside the fact that there are still Israelis held captives by hamas....kids women...you cry and cry about ceasefire...Hamas is still firing rockets...they still have hostages....would you prefer them to keep firing rockets and keep the hostages? What do you think is their part in this?
Racism.

Same with all the Israel supporters. You support clear cases of terrorism committed by Israel then say lesser cases of terrorism by Hamas justify genocide. I say both sides stop fighting with a ceasefire then let the ICC sort out who is the terrorist and what war crimes are being committed.
But every single Israeli supporter here is against Israel having to uphold the same laws you demand Hamas uphold. Every single one.
That's racism.
 

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Frankie, the OBVIOUS strategy of HAMAS is to show endless "wounded child" videos. HAMAS leadership has no strategy to successfully resist the IDF attack. They don't give a fuck about the ordinary people. They are prepared to kill as many babies as it takes to get increased attention in the west.
That's really stupid, mandrill. Really stupid.

Either that or you think Israel is really stupid and super easy for Hamas to play. Cuz you know, its pretty easy not to decide to bomb all of Gaza with the equivalent explosives of 2 Hiroshima nukes, not intentionally withhold all food and water to 1.2 million children and pretty easy to just not bomb the shit out of hospitals and schools.

That is an intentional choice by Israel.
Genocide and ethnic cleansing.

That is not Hamas strategy, that is Netanyahu and the IDF strategy.


 

basketcase

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Loser.

Yeah, our Truth and Reconciliation was totally like turning Gaza into a death camp.
Such a great comparison.
Aw how sweet that you resort to insults to cover for your massively elitist hypocrisy. You keep claiming that Israel is illegitimate because you think it is a colonial entity yet you happily live on stolen land in Canada which is indisputably a colonial entity.
 

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No basketcase.
Israel announced their intent and started carrying through a campaign of genocide.
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Wow that's dumb. Sadly you are happy to use obviously false emotional propaganda to fuel hatred and justify your anti-semitism.
 

basketcase

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Yes they did, but Israel did worse. So you you admit that Israel is acting like a terrorist entity. I guess that is progress lol.
Thanks for admitting that Hamas and PIJ want the ethnic cleansing of Jews while Israel just want the elimination of terrorists.
 

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The US has huge culpability in all those action, but in all cases there was no announced and obvious genocideal intent as there is on the part of Israel.
Thanks for showing your asinine hypocrisy. Obvious considering you kept making excuses for Putin bombing the shit out of Syria.
 

basketcase

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there is a land claims settelement process in Canada, and yes thee were many cases of genocide during the colonization of the Americas, but there are relatively few disputes left and there is recourse, voting rights, freedom of movement, opporunities and soverinty options for the decendants of the victims. The Israeli genocide is ongoing.
Have you ever talked to indigenous people about how the treaties were created and enforced or how they are implemented today?

And the big difference is unlike many Palestinian factions, I don't know of any indigenous groups here who promote the goal of ethnically cleansing the non-indigenous.
 
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