Does anyone believe that Al-Ahli Arab Hospital was hit by the HAMAs?

[Frankfooter]

I have come to find you have a definite comprehension issue.
Read the WHOLE article.
Especially the section that says "contrasting narratives".
I don't make up quotes out of the blue to support some narrative then post an article that doesn't have the direct quotes in it.
If you missed a whole section in an article, what else do you think you are missing when you read.
As i have stated numerous times, I am not taking the IDF statements on this into account.
As I have stated numerous times I discounted the Al Jazeera video the first time I saw it and still do.
I have alreday explained the section of your second quote before.

Ok, I read the article but missed the connection at the end as he wasn't credited as UN inspector, as you stated. That's what I was looking for.

At this point Israel has blown up 50% of all housing in Gaza, they've shut down all hospitals, 2/3's bombed out of commission, bombed all bakeries and hit ambulances and UNRWA warehouses. So its down to making a claim that this was the one thing they didn't blow up based on evidence nobody says is solid.

Every day that Israel blows more shit up the more it looks like they absolutely would have done this and lied about it.

If you want to take a moral stand and try to claim that Israel are acting morally because of the photos and video you found, that's your choice.
I'm going with the evidence that there is no target they won't hit. Today they were telling civilians to flee to the south and then bombing them when the got there.

You think they bombed all this, most hospitals and then didn't do this one?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717254968204296207

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717201424054899034

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717114548971282816

 

[Frankfooter]

Franks having a bad day. He might want to recall in Hiroshima about 75,000 were killed. So either he is having trouble with math again, or if he uses his own logic, he should be saying good job Israel, you flattened Gaza, but kept collateral damage to a minimum compared to Hiroshima

We are talking explosives, not dead.
So far.

Though Israel is going to pass Bosnia in the genocide ranking in the next day.
Congrats.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717199029627466127

 

[Frankfooter]

Oh please stop. I support taking out Hamas, and I am the guy telling people who use insensitive language not to. I say pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli things all the time. I am just anti-Hamas.

They are killing 80% civilians.
So you are supporting killing Palestinians, and very occasionally Hamas.

 

[Frankfooter]

Ask Hamas to surrender. To save Palestinian lives.

Its Israel that's blowing shit up now, Hamas not so much.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717306646660051227

 

[toguy5252]

Ask Hamas to surrender and this entire war will come to and end.

Frankie and his fellow travelers have no interest in ending the war. they are hoping for more civilian deaths to further inflame hatred of Israel and Jews.

 

[Frankfooter]

Frankie and his fellow travelers have no interest in ending the war. they are hoping for more civilian deaths to further inflame hatred of Israel and Jews.

What a stupid post.

Israeli backers are getting more and more paranoid and weird.
Just stop killing the indigenous population already.
Stop bombing kids.

Stop lying about bombing.

Why is Israel attacking south Gaza after telling people to go there?

Israel has told civilians in the northern Gaza Strip, including residents of Gaza City, to move to the south of the enclave, saying it will be safer there as the military attacks Hamas following its Oct. 7 cross-border assault.

www.reuters.com

 

[Not getting younger]

We are talking explosives, not dead.
So far.

Though Israel is going to pass Bosnia in the genocide ranking in the next day.
Congrats.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717199029627466127

There is no so far Frank.
You are the one that compared it to Hiroshima comparing the amount of explosives used. It’s actually not all that far off.

Hiroshima: 78,000 dead
Gaza: 8,000 dead
Same amount explosives.

You should probably apologize to Pete too. You’ve now also accused him of justifying the war based on his conclusion it likely wasn’t Israel. When the war is occurring because of Hamas’s brutality and barbaric acts on Oct 7th.

If you want to take a moral stand and try to claim that Israel are acting morally because of the photos and video you found, that's your choice.

New flash Frank.
There is no morality in war.
So don’t start one.

 

[Frankfooter]

There is no so far Frank.
You are the one that compared it to Hiroshima comparing the amount of explosives used. It’s actually not all that far off.

Hiroshima: 78,000 dead
Gaza: 8,000 dead
Same amount explosives.

You should probably apologize to Pete too. You’ve now also accused him of justifying the war based on his conclusion it likely wasn’t Israel. When the war is occurring because of Hamas’s brutality and barbaric acts on Oct 7th.



New flash Frank.
There is no morality in war.
So don’t start one.

Israel should apologize to the world.
Anyone trying to justify this kind of attack on civilians because they haven't yet killed as many as Hiroshima is pretty disgusting.
If you think arguing that Israel has only dropped 4/5's the explosives of a Hiroshima makes your position look more moral, good luck.
And I did not accuse Pete of lying.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717176322919727588

 

[Not getting younger]

Israel should apologize to the world.
Anyone trying to justify this kind of attack on civilians because they haven't yet killed as many as Hiroshima is pretty disgusting.
If you think arguing that Israel has only dropped 4/5's the explosives of a Hiroshima makes your position look more moral, good luck.
And I did not accuse Pete of lying.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717176322919727588

Deflection.
You have serious problems with reading and comprehension, and accountability

 

[PeteOsborne]

Misinformation.
Israel fires US supplied weapons with big payloads.
Palestinian payloads are typically miniscule in comparison.

Trying make those sound equivalent is misinformation.

(though your Hiroshima numbers are correct)

I am now positive you have a comprehension issue.
I was comparing one whole year of mulitple airforces airstrikes in 3 different countries with land masses exponentially larger than the Gaza strip with the amount of airstrikes performed by the IDF in 5 days.
I did not include the size difference of the weaponry since it heas been stated numerous times that the IDF weaponry contains much larger payloads, explaining that fact seems redundant at this point.
My comment of 6,000 airstrikes in 5 days and 7,000 IJ and Hamas rocket strikes in 19 days was just a comment not a comparison.
You can check every part of every one of my posts, there is no misinformation in them at the time I post them.
If I do find an error, I make sure to post where I was in error.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Ok, I read the article but missed the connection at the end as he wasn't credited as UN inspector, as you stated. That's what I was looking for.

At this point Israel has blown up 50% of all housing in Gaza, they've shut down all hospitals, 2/3's bombed out of commission, bombed all bakeries and hit ambulances and UNRWA warehouses. So its down to making a claim that this was the one thing they didn't blow up based on evidence nobody says is solid.

Every day that Israel blows more shit up the more it looks like they absolutely would have done this and lied about it.

If you want to take a moral stand and try to claim that Israel are acting morally because of the photos and video you found, that's your choice.
I'm going with the evidence that there is no target they won't hit. Today they were telling civilians to flee to the south and then bombing them when the got there.

You think they bombed all this, most hospitals and then didn't do this one?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717254968204296207

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717201424054899034

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717114548971282816

You read it again and you missed the part where it was stated he was a UN inspector even though the part of my post that says he is a UN inspector is a copy and paste from the article?
I am not disputing your other claims in this post, as as far as I have understood from what I have seen, they are reasonably accurate.
Where have I ever claimed or tried to claim that Israel are acting morally, please provide the post #.
There have been interviews done in the past with Israeli citizens stating that IDF forces have fired tank rounds into buildings where Hamas or IJ were holding Israeli citizens hostage.
The main thing the IDF seemed to be concerned about at that time was making sure the hostage takers did get to do it again.
They must have watched Speed, on hostage negotiating tactics.
To answer this question" You think they bombed all this, most hospitals and then didn't do this one?
Yes, that is what appears to have happened and I believe it was accidental
A couple hundred feet one way or the other and they would have hit the cemetary.

 

[Frankfooter]

You read it again and you missed the part where it was stated he was a UN inspector even though the part of my post that says he is a UN inspector is a copy and paste from the article?
I am not disputing your other claims in this post, as as far as I have understood from what I have seen, they are reasonably accurate.
Where have I ever claimed or tried to claim that Israel are acting morally, please provide the post #.
There have been interviews done in the past with Israeli citizens stating that IDF forces have fired tank rounds into buildings where Hamas or IJ were holding Israeli citizens hostage.
The main thing the IDF seemed to be concerned about at that time was making sure the hostage takers did get to do it again.
They must have watched Speed, on hostage negotiating tactics.
To answer this question" You think they bombed all this, most hospitals and then didn't do this one?
Yes, that is what appears to have happened and I believe it was accidental
A couple hundred feet one way or the other and they would have hit the cemetary.

Yes, because he was credited as a defence intelligence analyst first then as war crimes investigator. Not as inspector. I even went back and searched for 'inspector' which came up blank. My bad for not rereading the entire article a second time to check for 'inspector'.
Marc Garlasco, the former defense intelligence analyst and UN war crimes investigator, says there are signs of a lack of evidence at the Al-Ahli Hospital site.

There are too many questions about the evidence from the internet. Problems with the video and where the Islamic Jihad rocket was claimed to be launched, where it was shot down, if it used all its fuel and what kind of payload it would have had. There's problem from the crater and site, with no shell fragments, contradictory claims about direction it came from, problems identify what would have caused such a big fireball. Possibly Hamas collected all shell fragments, possibly there were none. None of that is clear enough and only the US and Israel think they know for sure.

This BBC article seems pretty fair and clear on the issues.

Gaza hospital blast: What does new analysis tell us?

The BBC Verify team examines the latest evidence and assessments about what may have caused the explosion.

www.bbc.com

So that leaves the testimony from the doctors and Israel and Hamas' history to base assumptions.
And its not like Israel hasn't targeted hospitals before.

Israel/Gaza: Attacks on medical facilities and civilians add to war crime allegations

The continuing bombardment of civilian homes in several areas of the Gaza Strip, as well as the Israeli shelling of a hospital, add to the list of possible war crimes that demand an urgent independent international investigation, said Amnesty International. The third floor of the Al-Aqsa...

www.amnesty.org

 

[Frankfooter]

I am now positive you have a comprehension issue.
I was comparing one whole year of mulitple airforces airstrikes in 3 different countries with land masses exponentially larger than the Gaza strip with the amount of airstrikes performed by the IDF in 5 days.
I did not include the size difference of the weaponry since it heas been stated numerous times that the IDF weaponry contains much larger payloads, explaining that fact seems redundant at this point.
My comment of 6,000 airstrikes in 5 days and 7,000 IJ and Hamas rocket strikes in 19 days was just a comment not a comparison.
You can check every part of every one of my posts, there is no misinformation in them at the time I post them.
If I do find an error, I make sure to post where I was in error.

Sorry, your post came across as a comparison because you didn't note the payload difference.
You just blanket said IDF 6000, Palestinians 7000 rockets.
Without that qualification it looks like you are trying to suggest Palestinians are the ones doing more damage.

And yes, the fact that Israel has dropped more bombs than the US is crazy, Gaza is about the size of Montreal.
Though I saw this article on American bombing numbers, if its right its also pretty crazy. I had thought the US had mostly stopped bombing other countries.

‘Hey, Hey, USA! How Many Bombs Did You Drop Today?’

New numbers shed light on how the U.S. military rains terror from above.

progressive.org

 

[basketcase]

It's funny watching Franky go loony trying to pretend the whole world is wrong about the strike on the hospital.


BTW. He never responded to the fact that Israel's tonnage of explosives is greater than Hiroshima but the civilian deaths are a tiny fraction.

 

[Happyhomer]

Canada, France, UK AND USA have all reviewed the evidence and stated it was a Hamas or Islamic Jihad rocket. You can believe Hamas but I will take the ‘western powers’ data. They have some credibility. Hamas has zero.

500 people did not die in this attack. Hamas regularly lies about death and injury totals.

Your partisan support for Israel does not mean there is no doubt, or that everyone is ready to buy what the western powers are selling. Israel bombs hospitals and civilian buildings everyday, so why is this any different? Today 500 people died. So did that many people in this hospital attack. So do you really think it is beyond Israel to do this? Again Hamas is also quite capable of doing this, so I have taken a balanced position of, "Well not sure who did it".

 

[Frankfooter]

It's funny watching Franky go loony trying to pretend the whole world is wrong about the strike on the hospital.


BTW. He never responded to the fact that Israel's tonnage of explosives is greater than Hiroshima but the civilian deaths are a tiny fraction.

Are you celebrating destroying over 50% of all the housing in Gaza and only killing a small genocide's worth of people?
You are sick.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717571543138468351

 

[Frankfooter]

Canada, France, UK AND USA have all reviewed the evidence and stated it was a Hamas or Islamic Jihad rocket. You can believe Hamas but I will take the ‘western powers’ data. They have some credibility. Hamas has zero.

500 people did not die in this attack. Hamas regularly lies about death and injury totals.

Israel regularly lies even more.

You can count the names here.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717588222845354231

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Hamas terror base is hidden beneath Gaza's largest hospital, Israel alleges

Israeli Defense Forces officials are claiming they have evidence of a major Hamas command post buried under Gaza's largest hospital.

www.foxnews.com

Hmmmm

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Canada, France, UK AND USA have all reviewed the evidence and stated it was a Hamas or Islamic Jihad rocket. You can believe Hamas but I will take the ‘western powers’ data. They have some credibility. Hamas has zero.

500 people did not die in this attack. Hamas regularly lies about death and injury totals.

HAMAs are MAGAs with brown skin and rocket launchers

 

[basketcase]

Are you celebrating destroying over 50% of all the housing in Gaza and only killing a small genocide's worth of people?
You are sick.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717571543138468351

Your lies are moronic. You may get excited when 'enemy' civilians get murdered but that's not most humans.