Higher End

[Pt6ix]

Who are the higher end girls in Ottawa outside of IOC? (Refuse to ever use them)

Preferences under 35, not into anything bigger than medium build really, under $400 hour or 90 minutes. I prefer brunettes over blondes. Hoping to build more of a rapture with a regular for extended dates while in town for business. SA is useless, used to be my go to but seems I can only find party girls on it or cash before meeting etc

 

[Modernman]

Here is a list of the girls I’ve seen that I would recommend.

Not in your price list but Blake Jolie is incredible. $800 hr

Lilah Woods $350 hr $500 90mins
Olivia Eden $450 hr $650 90mins
Madeline Klaire (obviously) but looks like she goes more towards HH bookings etc
Kingsley McKenna $350 hr $500 90mins
Rebecca Gold is also a good one
Yuna Kwon (unsure of her rates now, it’s been over a year since I’ve seen her)

Most higher independents in Ottawa are over the listed above budget or are members of IOC.

 

[walk]

Great list, just noting that the Blake you referred to is Blakely Jolie, really high end but absolutely incredible. I'd also add Emma on LL who is $400 for 1 hour, haven't seen her but she seems to fit the bill as well.

Here is a list of the girls I’ve seen that I would recommend.

Not in your price list but Blake is incredible. $800 hr

Lilah Woods $350 hr $500 90mins
Olivia Eden $450 hr $650 90mins
Madeline Klaire (obviously) but looks like she goes more towards HH bookings etc
Kingsley McKenna $350 hr $500 90mins
Rebecca Gold is also a good one
Yuna Kwon (unsure of her rates now, it’s been over a year since I’ve seen her)

Most higher independents in Ottawa are over the listed above budget or are members of IOC.

 

[Wolfcastle]

Here is a list of the girls I’ve seen that I would recommend.

Not in your price list but Blake Jolie is incredible. $800 hr

Lilah Woods $350 hr $500 90mins
Olivia Eden $450 hr $650 90mins
Madeline Klaire (obviously) but looks like she goes more towards HH bookings etc
Kingsley McKenna $350 hr $500 90mins
Rebecca Gold is also a good one
Yuna Kwon (unsure of her rates now, it’s been over a year since I’ve seen her)

Most higher independents in Ottawa are over the listed above budget or are members of IOC.

Would add Jackie Gilcrest $400/hr

 

[William St]

Who are the higher end girls in Ottawa outside of IOC? (Refuse to ever use them)

Preferences under 35, not into anything bigger than medium build really, under $400 hour or 90 minutes. I prefer brunettes over blondes. Hoping to build more of a rapture with a regular for extended dates while in town for business. SA is useless, used to be my go to but seems I can only find party girls on it or cash before meeting etc

McKenna King (formerly Kingsley McKenna) has a great reputation, though I've yet to try her service. She likely fits the bill.

 

[@madelineklaire]

Madeline Klaire (obviously) but looks like she goes more towards HH bookings etc

Hey! I actually prioritize longer sessions. I have limited availability most times so perhaps recently I’ve only been able to accommodate shorter sessions to fit you in.

 

[Pt6ix]

Has anyone seen Selene Candace?

 

[B00blover]

Why not just book a provider you like and if she's not expensive enough for you toss her a couple 100 extra? Same difference.

 

[TigerFlex5]

Great list, just noting that the Blake you referred to is Blakely Jolie, really high end but absolutely incredible. I'd also add Emma on LL who is $400 for 1 hour, haven't seen her but she seems to fit the bill as well.

I believe Emma retired a few months ago, if I'm not mistaken, formerly from CMJ (I forgot her name when she was there...)
If that's the right one, even her website is no longer active.

 

[Pt6ix]

Why not just book a provider you like and if she's not expensive enough for you toss her a couple 100 extra? Same difference.

Because I personally do not find them as professional. I like when providers have a detailed website and Twitter to get a better sense of who they are. Typically those are the ones who charger more than the typical LL girl who is not my taste.

 

[Pt6ix]

I believe Emma retired a few months ago, if I'm not mistaken, formerly from CMJ (I forgot her name when she was there...)
If that's the right one, even her website is no longer active.

Sadly Emma retired, I did see her before. She was wonderful.

 

[Modernman]

Hey! I actually prioritize longer sessions. I have limited availability most times so perhaps recently I’ve only been able to accommodate shorter sessions to fit you in.

I apologize. Sorry, I was basing it off your Twitter and leolist ads as I’ve never really seen anything directed towards extended dates, dinner, overnights etc

 

[TigerFlex5]

Because I personally do not find them as professional. I like when providers have a detailed website and Twitter to get a better sense of who they are. Typically those are the ones who charger more than the typical LL girl who is not my taste.

It would've been easier to say it from the beginning... saying "Who are the High-end providers" gets confusing in what you're looking for.
But, I agree with you that the ones with a website are more high-end and offers a "more interesting" level of service.
"Who are the ones with a website"... great question.

A few years ago, I asked that question on Lyla, I got bashed by 3–4 providers who were saying that it was too much work and that clients were not even look at it properly. I disagreed, but that's me. Yes, some guys don't really look at it properly, but some do and you are right, when all the information is there, it gives you (not always, for sure, but still) a better sense of who is the provider.

And people who don't like to waste time, like me, that's what we are looking for.

 

[walk]

I believe Emma retired a few months ago, if I'm not mistaken, formerly from CMJ (I forgot her name when she was there...)
If that's the right one, even her website is no longer active.

Actually it's a new Emma that I'm referring to that started advertising on LL a couple of weeks ago. The thread about her is here: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/emma-1876-toftt-10-10.829159/.

You can see a recent ad she posted here: https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...gorgeous_face_insane_body-8252487?source=list

 

[B00blover]

Because I personally do not find them as professional. I like when providers have a detailed website and Twitter to get a better sense of who they are. Typically those are the ones who charger more than the typical LL girl who is not my taste.

So it's about online presence and not price? What about the shitty providers that do nothing but post online because they have no clients? Surely they're not high-end, but yet they would be based on the definitions provided here.

I guess I'm still trying to figure out what high end means, other than expensive. Is the box gold plated? Does the back door smell like literal roses?

Another question. When, and how, does a low-end escort transition to a high-end one? Does the creation of a website automatically admit you to the club? Help a brother out here, I like high-end stuff, too.

Weren't some of the listed high-end ladies once low-end ladies? How did they change, and did they become better at their craft when they did?

 

[prettypennyc]

So it's about online presence and not price? What about the shitty providers that do nothing but post online because they have no clients? Surely they're not high-end, but yet they would be based on the definitions provided here.

I guess I'm still trying to figure out what high end means, other than expensive. Is the box gold plated? Does the back door smell like literal roses?

Another question. When, and how, does a low-end escort transition to a high-end one? Does the creation of a website automatically admit you to the club? Help a brother out here, I like high-end stuff, too.

Weren't some of the listed high-end ladies once low-end ladies? How did they change, and did they become better at their craft when they did?

Just to add in some perspective from how I run my program, price included. I don’t have much of an online presence other then TERB and my Ad on LL - but i do think that comes into price point. When I got into the business I usually compared the way the prices work To online porn - ie you have amateur and $$$ where the girls are typically enhanced. I think quality of service is important because that’s where you customers are weight out if they return or not. But your eyes will always est first. Over the last year my rates have jumped - 1) being inflation but mainly because I saved some money and reinvested it into my self (got work down, invest in a trainer, body treatments skin treatments) - this justified my price increase. Getting nails done, having makeup on, good quality lingerie - this all is built into the price point.
I guess for me; whether a girl is low end of high end depends on if she invests in herself or not. I don’t have rock hard abs, and my breasts aren’t fake but I most definitely take the time to get dolled up and present myself with being freshly showered, oiled up and everything looking proper. In my mind, that mérits a higher then average price point .

 

[B00blover]

Just to add in some perspective from how I run my program, price included. I don’t have much of an online presence other then TERB and my Ad on LL - but i do think that comes into price point. When I got into the business I usually compared the way the prices work To online porn - ie you have amateur and $$$ where the girls are typically enhanced. I think quality of service is important because that’s where you customers are weight out if they return or not. But your eyes will always est first. Over the last year my rates have jumped - 1) being inflation but mainly because I saved some money and reinvested it into my self (got work down, invest in a trainer, body treatments skin treatments) - this justified my price increase. Getting nails done, having makeup on, good quality lingerie - this all is built into the price point.
I guess for me; whether a girl is low end of high end depends on if she invests in herself or not. I don’t have rock hard abs, and my breasts aren’t fake but I most definitely take the time to get dolled up and present myself with being freshly showered, oiled up and everything looking proper. In my mind, that mérits a higher then average price point .

Yup, I can definitely see how having a website necessitates higher rates to cover increased expenses, but does that make a provider higher-end? I'm not so convinced.

When it comes to enhanced vs natural, I think that's more of a personal choice since you can find plenty of guys who only want either, and not the other, or those like myself who are fine with both. I won't pay more just because a girl is enhanced, so if a girl wants to drop 20k on her body and double her rates, all the power to her but that also doesn't make you high-end, imo, just cosmetically altered lol.

I completely understand the argument that the more a woman invests in herself (location, appearance, clothing, makeup, hair, etc.,) the more she has to charge, but I still don't think that necessarily equates to high-end. You also have a lot of girls not making any of these investments into themselves, or very little, trying to charge a lot. So, still, price does not equal high-end imo.

I've seen many ladies at different price points in Ottawa, yourself included. I would rank you leagues above some OIC girls who charge double your rate and have a much more visible online presence than yourself, but based on the way this thread is going your name would never come up because you don't charge enough. Just seems silly to me.

 

[prettypennyc]

Just to add in some perspective from how I run my program, price included. I don’t have much of an online presence other then TERB and my Ad on LL - but i do think that comes into price point. When I got into the business I usually compared the way the prices work To online porn - ie you have amateur and $$$ where the girls are typically enhanced. I think quality of service is important because that’s where you customers are weight out if they return or not. But your eyes will always est first. Over the last year my rates have jumped - 1) being inflation but mainly because I saved some money and reinvested it into my self (got work down, invest in a trainer, body treatments skin treatments) - this justified my price increase. Getting nails done, having makeup on, good quality lingerie - this all is built into the price point.
I guess for me; whether a girl is low end of high end depends on if she invests in herself or not. I don’t have rock hard abs, and my breasts aren’t fake but I most definitely take the time to get dolled up and present myself with being freshly showered, oiled up and everything looking proper. In my mind, that mérits a higher then average price point .

Weird analogy but it’s like ordering a steak at 15$ at a restaurant or one at 100$. Chances are the most expensive one you’ll get white glove service for the price you pay. Doesn’t mean the 15$ is bad - just depends what you’re in the mood for and what you feel like soendong

Yup, I can definitely see how having a website necessitates higher rates to cover increased expenses, but does that make a provider higher-end? I'm not so convinced.

When it comes to enhanced vs natural, I think that's more of a personal choice since you can find plenty of guys who only want either, and not the other, or those like myself who are fine with both. I won't pay more just because a girl is enhanced, so if a girl wants to drop 20k on her body and double her rates, all the power to her but that also doesn't make you high-end, imo, just cosmetically altered lol.

I completely understand the argument that the more a woman invests in herself (location, appearance, clothing, makeup, hair, etc.,) the more she has to charge, but I still don't think that necessarily equates to high-end. You also have a lot of girls not making any of these investments into themselves, or very little, trying to charge a lot. So, still, price does not equal high-end imo.

I've seen many ladies at different price points in Ottawa, yourself included. I would rank you leagues above some OIC girls who charge double your rate and have a much more visible online presence than yourself, but based on the way this thread is going your name would never come up because you don't charge enough. Just seems silly to me.

Appreciate the kind words, thank you . And yes it’s totally up to the customer to set the standard for themselves for what the want. Example, as I mentioned I got some work done, however yesterday a new customer had pointed out my stretch marks and said he generally didn’t find them attractive and I kind of got the vibe he wouldn’t book again . I still feel like I gave him Grade A service regardless if it was going to be a one hit wonder. We still enjoyed the time we had together as this comment was made towards the end of the session. In my head is was kind of like - well I did my body, but it’s the stretch marks that did you in? But i understood his point of view - and I wasn’t offended because I have so many lovely regulars that make me feel great in my skin

 

[TigerFlex5]

So it's about online presence and not price? What about the shitty providers that do nothing but post online because they have no clients? Surely they're not high-end, but yet they would be based on the definitions provided here.

Dude, you are confusing me... "The shitty providers that do nothing but post online because they have no clients..." ??? Where this coming from, Bro?
Between the lines, OP is asking for recommendation of good providers that have an online presence. If they are shitty (online presence or not) providers I guess it's not what the OP is looking for...

Another question. When, and how, does a low-end escort transition to a high-end one? Does the creation of a website automatically admit you to the club? Help a brother out here, I like high-end stuff, too.

Weren't some of the listed high-end ladies once low-end ladies? How did they change, and did they become better at their craft when they did?

Like you said, they were all once low-end ladies. I guess it's a transition that comes with prices and services, at one point.
A few years ago, the standard for a 1hr was somewhere around $200-$250. At this time, a high-end was probably above $300/hr.
These days, $300 seems to be minimal and a high-end will be $400 or more.
Just saying

 

[B00blover]

Dude, you are confusing me... "The shitty providers that do nothing but post online because they have no clients..." ??? Where this coming from, Bro?
Between the lines, OP is asking for recommendation of good providers that have an online presence. If they are shitty (online presence or not) providers I guess it's not what the OP is looking for...



Like you said, they were all once low-end ladies. I guess it's a transition that comes with prices and services, at one point.
A few years ago, the standard for a 1hr was somewhere around $200-$250. At this time, a high-end was probably above $300/hr.
These days, $300 seems to be minimal and a high-end will be $400 or more.
Just saying

You've never seen the girls who sit on Twitter all day trash talking this provider or that client, then complain how slow it is? Really? The point there being that they can have a strong online presence, be active, etc., and still not be high-end or worth seeing.

Tbh, it's not what the OP asked for that I'm poking fun at. It's the automatic association all the responders make between high-end and expensive. That's the false equivocation I was trying to point out, and that the term "high-end" doesn't actually mean anything here since at best it means expensive, and at worst it means something different to everyone.

A good provider that has an online presence is a very practical definition, except what is good to you? Bbbj only? See where I'm going...

Prices changed, yes, but did services? Can you say that definitively? I've never had a follow up visit with a lady who ballooned in price but I'm skeptical of there being a significant change. You're starting to equivocate expensive with high-end again. I would argue 400/hr is not high end. If I wanted to splurge and go for the cream of the crop, first off I wouldn't know where to start since they don't post on LL, Tryst, TERB, etc., but second of all I would expect to be paying 4 figures minimum. If the average is 300, how is 100 more high-end in a hobby when there's almost no limit to the hourly rate?

Hypothetical for you - if you see a lady now at 260/hr who is building her rep, and in 6months from now she's asking $800/hr. Did you see a high-end lady or a low-end lady? It's the same lady, 6 months apart.

What if that same lady who could command $800/hr but does this for a side gig, not to live, never raises her rates and remains at 260/hr for just her regulars. Posts no ads. Has no site. Is she low-end? I would argue she is more high end than your $1000/hr ladies posting daily since she is only even known by a select few, so she is exclusive. The ones posting daily, while expensive, are available to any guy willing to spend that much, within reason (screening and number of clients needed to see etc.,).

This is all just semantics and personal opinion, of course, but it does seem silly to say a lady is high-end because she chose to charge $500/hr. What a lady chooses to charge is based on nothing other than what she decides is a fair rate for her time and services. Some may look at themselves and think they're a bad bitch so you should pay a ton just to be in their presence....but we're talking about good providers lol.