"Israel, Similar to Apartheid": Ekos Canada Poll
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The New York Times has now used the A word.
www.nytimes.com
I do wonder how long it will take before the liberal party will have to drop their support of the Israeli government. They can't ignore 59% of their base.
Opinion | The U.S. Reassessment of Netanyahu’s Government Has Begun (Published 2023)
Israel’s extremist governing coalition is going too far on too many fronts.
I do wonder how long it will take before the liberal party will have to drop their support of the Israeli government. They can't ignore 59% of their base.
What I want is irrelevant. I'm not a US citizen. It's what the US citizenry wants that matters.
They have an open border and birthright citizenship. Israel does not. If they decide to close both of these loopholes, it's their choice.
Israel has the birthright for all Jews, regardless of their citizenship while at the same time refusing the Right of Return for Palestinians.
That's quite different and very much race based.
Sounds to me like you're making excuses to not hold Palestinian leadership accountable for their choices. It is ridiculous that you guys think that some kind of peace can be established without the Palestinian leadership buying in to peace.
I find your arguments quite entertaining.
You say the Brits had no right to impose decisions on the local people (ignoring the Ottomans were doing the same) but think the solution is to impose your decisions on the local people.
You say Israel must be held accountable for claimed violations of international law yet support Palestinians violating the same international law.
That's not even mentioning your ludicrous claim that the Brits forced Arabs to sell land to Jews that you 'proved' by posting about a law Israel made years after the Brits were gone.
You might have a very selective knowledge of history but at least you're entertaining.
How well have Israel and the PA been able to stop that violence?
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Technically? Love your moral code.
And you well know the examples I posted were attacks on Jewish civilians, not on Israeli troops. I have no moral problem with militants attacking troops and accept that when they do, they are combatants and not civilians.
If people keep accepting Palestinian militant attacks on civilians, there is no pressure on them to change to peaceful protest. Similarly if the international community ONLY puts pressure on Israel, the Palestinian leadership will have no motivation to look at peace. Thankfully Canada has no problem condemning terror groups no matter the excuses they use to justify their actions.
Ah, the moronic accusations to try and defend your overt racism. I'm not the one who promotes terrorism from one side and obsessively condemns the other.
Apartheid: A policy of segregation and political, social, and economic discrimination based on race.
The fact that Israeli Arabs have the exact same rights as every other Israeli disproves the claim. There is systemic discrimination in Israel against Arabs but that is true in Canada as well.
An Apartheid law would be one that says something like Jews can not purchase land or it is a capital offence to sell them land. Apartheid would be allowing Arabs Israelis travel freely through all of the West Bank but banning Israeli Jews. It could also be applied to Lebanon, and Syria who keep generations of Palestinians locked in camps, denied access to social services or certain professions.
And I see you chose to ignore the UN condemning gender Apartheid in Iran. I guess that Apartheid isn't important to you.
And what will that accomplish? I condemn China's treatment of the Uyghurs. I condemn Myanmar's treatment of the Rohingya.
I also condemn the Taliban's treatment of Afghan women. What should we do? Invade Afghanistan and occupy it for 20 years?
I concede your point that we should not fund Israel.
Why do you think Palestinian leaders are responsible for a 75 year old foreign occupation of their country?
I back both sides being held to the law equally.
I back equal rights.
You back apartheid.
And you have the nerve to call me racist?
BDS Movement
The Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement works to end international support for Israel's oppression of Palestinians and pressure Israel to comply with international law.
bdsmovement.net
Yes, you are backing apartheid.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
www.amnesty.org
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
I think official Irish policy is still to support a two state solution. It may may not be the perfect solution but perfect solutions are few and far between.
"Ireland was the first member of the European community to recognise the Palestinian Liberation Organization in 1980, with others following a few months later, and became a stalwart advocate for the two-state solution, hosting and meeting with Yasser Arafat on several occasions, sometimes to the ire of the Israeli government."
What’s behind Ireland’s support for Palestine? | Israel-Palestine conflict News | Al Jazeera
The one state solution is already here.
There is no Palestine, only Israel.
Its a fantasy now to say the two state solution is possible.
So the best plan is a non violent protest for equal rights for all.
BDS.
The '3.5% rule': How a small minority can change the world
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.
www.bbc.com
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www.newarab.com
This disproves your claim. State back settlers trying to ethnically cleanse Palestinian residents with no charges or arrests against the settlers.
Israeli settlers try to seize Palestinian home in Jerusalem
A group of Jewish Israeli settlers tried to break into a Palestinian house in Jerusalem early on Tuesday to claim the property.
What grandpa doesn’t want you to know.
