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This former NHL first round pick shared a surname with two NHL hall of famers. He also shared a jersey number and birthday(not birth year) with one of them. Who is he?
 
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In 1979 Paul Molitor was involved in a rare play, that according to my research, has only happened 3 times in the modern MLB era. Name the play.
Molitor was the victim of a "true" 7-3 putout. Players have been thrown out at first base by a left feilder, but all but 3 of them were already on first base. For it to be a "true" 7-3 putout the batter must be thrown out before reaching first base. I couldn't find details or video on how he was thrown out. Here is the list of "true" 7-3 putouts.
1950--Elmer Valo
1979--Paul Molitor
2000--Kevin Elster

P.S. It's not easy finding information on this. If anyone can add any information to this(or correct something) please do.
 

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Molitor was the victim of a "true" 7-3 putout. Players have been thrown out at first base by a left feilder, but all but 3 of them were already on first base. For it to be a "true" 7-3 putout the batter must be thrown out before reaching first base. I couldn't find details or video on how he was thrown out. Here is the list of "true" 7-3 putouts.
1950--Elmer Valo
1979--Paul Molitor
2000--Kevin Elster

P.S. It's not easy finding information on this. If anyone can add any information to this(or correct something) please do.

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Most likely these plays involved 'five man infields' with bases loaded and less than two outs, and/ or a potential 'walk off' scenario, or a batter with turtle speed.

Elster had 14 stolen bases in 13 seasons, so he was no speed demon. Elmer Valo and Paul Molitor could run; Molitor had 500+ career bags, and Valo had double digit steals in five different seasons in the 40's/ 50's, including 12 in 1950, when the Major League leader was Dom Dimaggio with 15.
 
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What player advanced to 2nd from first, ran back to first base and then went back to 2nd base, all in the same play (he essentially ran 270 feet just to advance one base)?

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Most likely these plays involved 'five man infields' with bases loaded and less than two outs, and/ or a potential 'walk off' scenario, or a batter with turtle speed.

Elster had 14 stolen bases in 13 seasons, so he was no speed demon. Elmer Valo and Paul Molitor could run; Molitor had 500+ career bags, and Valo had double digit steals in five different seasons in the 40's/ 50's, including 12 in 1950, when the Major League leader was Dom Dimaggio with 15.
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Very interesting.
This thread is a good read, from the beginning, for someone new to the board. There are still some old questions on the table, and someone who might be competitive can test themselves on the questions already answered correctly; the question and answer are rarely on the same page.
 
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This question is also posted in the Jays 2023 thread in Sports Discussion, because some people don't routinely read both threads.

1) Twenty-three current or former Toronto Blue Jays players are sons of Major League Baseball players. Name as many as you can.


unassuming correctly identified Vladdy Guerrero, Bo Bichette, Cavan Biggio, Jason Grilli.
bemeup correctly identified Roberto Alomar and Ed Sprague.
maurice93 correctly identified Kyle Drabek and Daulton Varsho.
K Douglas correctly identified Todd Stottlemyre, Jose Cruz Jr., Pedro Borbon Jr., Darren Oliver, Dick Schofield and Travis Shaw.


2) Thirteen former Toronto Blue Jays have sons who have played, or are playing, in the Major Leagues. Name as many as you can.

unassuming correctly identified Paul Quantrill, (Cal) and Steve Grilli, (Jason).

maurice93 correctly identified Cecil Fielder, (Prince) and Jesse Barfield, (Josh).
K Douglas correctly identified Roger Clemens and Raul Mondesi.


3) Which father and son both played for the Blue Jays? There are two father son pairs.

unassuming correctly identified Steve and Jason Grilli.
1) Nobody got:

Darren Fletcher: Darren's father Tom pitched two scoreless innings for the Tigers on September 12, 1962 in his lone Major League appearance at age 20.

Mark Leiter Jr.: Mark Sr. was a journeyman swingman for 11 seasons. He led the Majors in losses in 1997, with 17. Mark Jr currently plays for the Chicago Cubs. He had a 13.50 ERA for the Blue Jays in 6 2/3 innings during the 2018 season.

Brian McRae: Father Hal had a distinguished 19 year career in the big leagues, primarily as Designated Hitter for the Royals, after breaking in with the Cincinnati Reds. Brian hit .195 for the 1999 Blue Jays in his final season of 10.

Josh Roenicke: Gary Roenicke was primarily a platoon outfielder for the Orioles in the late 70's and through most of the 80's. Josh was part of the trade in which the Jays acquired Edwin Encarnacion for Scot Rolen. He was 1-0 for Toronto with a 6.38 ERA in parts of the 2009-10 seasons.

David Segui: Father Diego Segui led the AL in ERA in 1970, with exactly 162 innings pitched. I think he's the only man to have played for both the Seattle Pilots and the Seattle Mariners. David Segui was a trade deadline acquisition for the Blue Jays in 1999, and hit .316 for them in 95 at bats.

Dwight Smith Jr.: Dwight Sr. was an outfielder from 1989-96, used almost exclusively against right handed pitching. Dwight Jr. hit .370 in 27 at bats for the Jays in 21017 and .262 for the in 2018, (65 ABs), before being dealt to the Orioles for some international bonus slot money.

Justin Speier: Speier was was competent middle relief pitcher for Toronto from 2004-06. Father Chris was an everyday shortstop for the first 10 of his 19 big league seasons. The Montreal Expos acquired him in April, 1977 in a rare shortstop for shortstop trade, with Tim Foli moving to the Giants. Foli was kind of an asshole, but he was a favorite of long-time Expos manager Gene Mauch.

Randy St. Claire: Ebba St. Claire was a backup catcher from 1951-54. Son Randy pitch the last two innings of his nine year career as a middle reliever for the 1994 Jays. Julie St. Claire has spectacular breasts, or at least she did fifteen years ago when we did the nasty.

Steven Tolleson: Wayne Tolleson was a half decent utility infielder for several AL teams during the 1980's. Steven Tolleson was a not-as-good utility infielder for the 2014-15 Blue Jays.

Ozzie Virgil Jr.: Ozzie Sr. was the first Dominican to play in the Majors. He had an undistinguished Major League career, (324 games played from 1956-69), and 19 year career as a Major League coach. Ozzie Jr. was a two time NL All Star catcher, who hit .125 for the Blue Jays in 16 at bats at the end of his career, (1989-90).


2) Nobody got:

Jeff Burroughs
: Jeff was the first overall pick in the 1969 amateur draft, and the 1974 AL MVP. He played his final season for the 1985 Jays. His son Sean played in 7 Major League seasons between 2002 and 2012.

Sal Butera: Career backup catcher Sal Butera hit .233 in 60 at bats for the 1988 Blue jays in his final season. Sal's son Drew Butera, also primarily a catcher, pitched 6 innings in five appearances between 2012-20. He is one of the few players from the 21st century who played in ten or more seasons, (12), with a career batting average under .200, (.198), with no speed, (zero career stolen bases, in one attempt), and negligible power,(.290 career slugging average).

Mike Darr Sr.: Mike was acquired by the Blue Jays in the 1976 expansion draft. In his first, last and only Major League appearance, he started and lost on September 6, 1977 against the Boston Red Sox, retiring four batters while hitting one batter, walking four, and allowing three hits, including a grand slam home run by Carlton Fisk, (33.750 career ERA). Son Mike Jr. played 1999-2001 for the Padres before being killed in a car accident during spring training 2002.

Mark Guthrie: Mark lasted 15 years in the Major Leagues as a left handed middle reliever. He was a Bluee Jay after the 2000 trade deadline, before signing as a free agent elsewhere in the off season. His son Dalton Guthrie played for the Phillies in 2022-23, but he has since been moved twice, and he's played for three different AAA teams this year.

Dave McKay: Canadian Dave McKay was the third baseman in the Blue Jays first game. Following his playing career, Dave has been a Major League coach for 36 seasons, currently as part of the Dimondbacks' staff. Dave's son Cody played 37 big league games between 2002-04.

Brian Milner: Drafted in the 7th round in 1978, Milner went straight to the Majors at age 18, hitting .444 in two games, with a 1.111 OPS before being demoted to Rookie ball at Medicine Hat. He never made it back to The Show. He remains the youngest player to have ever played for the Blue Jays. Brian's son Hoby is currently a member of the Milwaukee Brewers.

David Weathers: David started his 19 year Major League career with the Blue Jays, (1991-92), before being lost to the Florida Marlins in the 1992 Expansion Draft. His son Ryan has played in the Majors in 2021-23, but is currently toiling at the AAA level.

3) Nobody got:

John Mayberry Sr. and Jr.
: John Sr. was a power hitting first baseman for the Blue Jays, (1978-82). John Jr. played in fifteen games for the 2014 Blue Jays in September. 2014, primarily as a pinch hitter, with a few outfield ad DH appearances, (five games started).
 

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I always thought Lloyd Moseby's career was disappointing, as if he was content to be good, without effort, when he could have been great, had he had more drive. The lasting impression of him for me is from a game I saw at Exhibition Stadium, sometime between 1985 and 1988. On a ground ball he hit in the infield, he started slowing down as he approached first base, and he was out by half a step.

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