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You can substitute his opinion on steroids' with tobacco, alcohol, narcotics, DUI etc, etc, etc.
People live life the way they want.
 
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I have used steroids . Much of my 20s and 30s I pumped myself full of gear. Not just pharmaceutical grade either. Veterinary and underground labs as well. I’m sure some of it was related to body dismorphia. I was obsessed with being a monster. A freak. When I started i weighed around 190 lbs. at my peak I was 270. Far from cut. Just bulk. A lot of water weight. One day while at work I started to feel like I was going to pass out. My piss turned black. Like black coffee. My skin started turning yellow. My liver was in bad shape. I was using heavy amounts of an oral steroid called Anadrol-50 (extremely hepatotoxic) as well astestosterone winstrol and deca durabolin. You would think I learned my lesson. No. A few months later I was back on and dealing with absurdly high blood pressure. I was an idiot. I was putting my health at risk and my kids at risk of losing their father. That was my awaking. Stopped using and haven’t since.
 

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I have used steroids . Much of my 20s and 30s I pumped myself full of gear. Not just pharmaceutical grade either. Veterinary and underground labs as well. I’m sure some of it was related to body dismorphia. I was obsessed with being a monster. A freak. When I started i weighed around 190 lbs. at my peak I was 270. Far from cut. Just bulk. A lot of water weight. One day while at work I started to feel like I was going to pass out. My piss turned black. Like black coffee. My skin started turning yellow. My liver was in bad shape. I was using heavy amounts of an oral steroid called Anadrol-50 (extremely hepatotoxic) as well astestosterone winstrol and deca durabolin. You would think I learned my lesson. No. A few months later I was back on and dealing with absurdly high blood pressure. I was an idiot. I was putting my health at risk and my kids at risk of losing their father. That was my awaking. Stopped using and haven’t since.
Good on you. I would never take steroids if i had kids. Also, oral steroids are the poison for liver. Injectable steroids are way more mild on male body.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Unless you're a pro athlete looking to land that big contract, steroids are useless because as soon as you stop taking them all the muscle and strength gains disappear. There are also crazy side-effects if you take too much (as @Fugly pointed out).

You can get good gains by just going natural.
Take OTC testosterone boosters like tribulus or d-aspartic acid coupled with creatine, and you can easily grow 10 to 20 lbs of muscle.

Another thing I noticed when I was bulking up too much I started attracting the wrong type of women (READ: strippers and bar sluts).
"Normal" women tend to like fitness type guys that are not too muscular. They dont like bodybuilders.

Just my $0.02
 

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Unless you're a pro athlete looking to land that big contract, steroids are useless because as soon as you stop taking them all the muscle and strength gains disappear. There are also crazy side-effects if you take too much (as @Fugly pointed out).

You can get good gains by just going natural.
Take OTC testosterone boosters like tribulus or d-aspartic acid coupled with creatine, and you can easily grow 10 to 20 lbs of muscle.

Another thing I noticed when I was bulking up too much I started attracting the wrong type of women (READ: strippers and bar sluts).
"Normal" women tend to like fitness type guys that are not too muscular. They dont like bodybuilders.

Just my $0.02
Yes. There are ways to limit muscle loss after stopping steroid use. A post cycle therapy is a must. Without it your test levels are guaranteed to crash. Long term steroid users quite often end up on TRT…for life..
Creatine is a proven effective safe supplement. It has even been proven to benefit cognitive health as well.
Test boosters like tribulus are bunk. Eat healthy. Get lots of rest. Reduce stressors and don t drink alcohol may increase test levels but not enough to affect significant muscle growth
 

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Take OTC testosterone boosters like tribulus or d-aspartic acid coupled with creatine, and you can easily grow 10 to 20 lbs of muscle.
OTC test boosters is a scam. They can boost testosterone in males back to their baseline (even that is not prooven, since none of them are approved by FDA or reviewed by any study), but never push over the limit like basic testosterone does. I go to the same gym for 3 years now, most men there cannot put any significant amount of muscle even though they go to gym quite regularly
"Normal" women tend to like fitness type guys that are not too muscular. They dont like bodybuilders.
The problem is, most fitness-type guys use PEDs nowadays as well. Just in lesser amounts.
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OTC test boosters is a scam. They can boost testosterone in males back to their baseline (even that is not prooven, since none of them are approved by FDA or reviewed by any study), but never push over the limit like basic testosterone does
Some studies say it increases testosterone, other studies say it doesn't:


For me it raised my test levels significantly
 

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For me it raised my test levels significantly
Do you exercise? Was your testosterone lower than a base level for your age group?
Thank you for the link, i read it a bit and it says it either not doing anything or decreasing testosterone in males who do physical activities:
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One found no increase in testosterone in young adult men who performed weight training and took D-aspartic acid for 28 days (5Trusted Source).

What’s more, another study found that two weeks of taking a high-dose supplement of 6 grams per day actually decreased testosterone in young men who weight trained (9Trusted Source).

However, a three-month follow-up study using 6 grams per day showed no change in testosterone (10Trusted Source)."
 
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This guy has it all wrong.

Gym rats can be some of the most confident individuals you'll ever meet. Almost to a fault.

Whether you are on them or not, the commitment and the self-motivation is something you will not find in low self-esteem people.
 

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Do you exercise? Was your testosterone lower than a base level for your age group?
I dont exercise as much as I used to. My test levels were average.

I also like the increase in energy and libido I get from Trib and Aspartate.
Since they are both natural there's no reason for me not to use them.

I also sometimes take Sarsaparilla powder and Avena Sativa for the same reasons
 
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I dont exercise as much as I used to. My test levels were average.

I also like the increase in energy and libido I get from Trib and Aspartate.
Since they are both natural there's no reason for me not to use them.

I also sometimes take Sarsaparilla powder and Avena Sativa for the same reasons
Unnatural doses of natural substances… kinda like the same thing as pharmaceuticals no?
 
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