The Ukrainian offensive starts
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His "source" of this information is his imagination. You don't even know the facts sufficiently to know Ukraine does not have hypersonic missiles, how far away Vladivlastock (9,000km) nor that Russia only managed to deploy a few of their failed T-14 tanks.
You'd rely on the word of cousin's in a military that is fundamentally and thoroughly corrupt such that said cousin would even communicate internal information.
And you'll dismiss (or not even watch) stuff like this.
Where did I say anything about missiles or tanks or Vladivostok? I think you may be more confused than you let on.
YOU didn't. But you replied to @NotADcotor 's satirical post about missiles, tanks and Vladivostok as if it were factual.
I know things are hard to follow when you are spewing your contrarian wisdom on every topic
Me thinks you are not wise in the ways of science to compare a duck to a rock instead of wood.
I never said anything about missiles, tanks or Vladivostok, in fact I never posted a thing about Ukraine on terb or the forum. My being dragged into this is rather creepy. However I have no interest to disclose my source, do your own research.
On a more serious note, his not being able to pick up on obvious satire is rather telling. I'd figure anyone anyone who is even remotely informed about the situation would have an idea how far away Vladivostok is or that claiming more T14s destroyed then have ever been produced is making fun of the always accurate claims of the MoD. But facts, evidence, verifiable sources, that's all just so ghey. Real men make extraordinary claims with out bothering with anything that can be confused for evidence.
Hey, I'm a victim, here just like you .
This has to be trolling, nobody can be that unwise in the ways of language.
This seems like poor and unnecessarily desperate strategy to me. As others have noted, Ukrainian military assets are worth a lot more to them in defense than they will yield in attack, particularly against fortified positions. As a rule of thumb (and historically), you generally don't attack unless you have AT LEAST a 2:1 edge in firepower. If they deplete their resources on a failed offensive, it will simply open the door to a broader incursion by Russia (both politically and militarily).
You don't win back your country by being on defence.
Seems like the Ukrainians are doing just fine attacking and driving out the Russians.. They've taken back wayyyyy more territory in the past week than Russia took almost a year to take Bahkmut.
I agree, but what's the hurry to rush headlong into an offensive? Isn't Ukrainian buildup happening faster than Russian resupply? Why not wait until: a) Russia loses the political will to stay, or b) at least until Ukraine has a 2 or 3 to 1 firepower advantage at each objective it looks to retake? In all conflicts where an outgunned force won a war (Vietnam, for example), time and timing were the most valuable assets of that outgunned force.
Well, I'm sure that the fortifications that the Russians faced in taking portions of Ukraine have not been fully restored to their former effectiveness (as is always the case). But the objective here is not to simply be more effective than the Russians, because Russia can afford to be about 5 times less effective. The objective is to retake the country with the minimum loss of life. Does taking it back 1 year earlier justify double the anticipated losses? I wouldn't think so.
It is my understanding from 2 different commentators that the offensive has barely started that most [as in 10 out of 11 or so] of the new brigades haven't seen action yet.
I notice HistoryLegendz is busting a nut because Ukraine lost a few more tanks and Brads. I m not sure why he is posting in English instead of German, after all considering Dieppe and Kasserine Pass surely we have lost WWII and are under German occupation, or is that Japanese occupation because surely after losing all those ships at Pearl Harbour we have been run over by the Japanese.
All that being said, it seems the Ukrainians haven't learned much from Russian mistakes over and over at Vulador[sp? don't care]
But hey they seem to be making some progress and that using very little of what they have saved up.
I am still half thinking that they will end up attacking somewhere else hardcore for real. Just like last time, attack in the Kherson region, not make much progress then hit the north, then after taking the rest of the Kherson region west of the river.
I would not be shocked if they actually launched the rest of the new brigades either up north [although that would extend the border between Ukraine and Russia proper] or try to fuck shit up at Bahkmut. Then move back south. That would be grand.
Quite frankly that would explain them half assing their push south instead of going full potato.
Now gambling at Cafe American in Casablanca, that would shock me.
You do realize that Puttanesca is a pasta sauce originated by Italian prostitutes, don't you? Do you really have to insult them here of all places by linking them to Vladimir Putin?
I'm just not sure what "political will" means in an autocracy like Russia. Putin seems impervious to public opinion. It seems he couldn't care less that educated Russians are leaving the country.
Since the Ukrainian successes last year, I've seen people speculating that Putin will be deposed. I don't think it's a bold opinion to say the Ukraine and the West can't base strategy on this hope.
They are in a race to get as much done before 2024 in the crazy event the MagaTwats were to take power again and cause turmoil within Nato and funding.
Excellent Potty Humor!
I love it............................
that we can mock how stupid it is.
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