Elon Musk added to Ukraine's Myrotvorets kill list (which includes 327 children!)
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Elon Musk added to Ukraine's Myrotvorets kill list (which includes 327 children!)
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Musk later appeared to answer is own question in the affirmative, tweeting out a link to the 'kill list' website's Wikipedia page. The website within recent weeks fell into the spotlight after Pink Floyd's Roger Waters highlighted his own inclusion on the list.
"Concerning," Musk later wrote.
"Concerning," Musk later wrote.
Elon Musk Made Ukraine's Kill List for 15 Minutes
Mirotvorets, or ‘Peacemaker,’ website, whose creators seek to bring ‘peace’ to their country with the help of...a kill list, put Elon Musk...
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Elon Musk Made Ukraine’s Kill List for 15 Minutes
By
M Dowling
October 14, 2022
Mirotvorets, or ‘Peacemaker,’ website, whose creators seek to bring ‘peace’ to their country with the help of extrajudicial killings (thanks to its list, known as a kill list), put Elon Musk on their kill list for about 15 minutes. Jackson Hinkle said someone probably told them Musk could dump their Starlink.
According to Wikipedia, for what Wikipedia is worth, Peacemaker is a private, open-source investigation website that has a list of Ukraine’s alleged enemies. Ukraine allows the website to continue.
The Ukrainian fascists are angry that Elon Musk won’t pay for Starlink indefinitely.
According to Reuters, Elon Musk said SpaceX cannot ‘indefinitely’ fund the Starlink internet service in Ukraine and send it several thousand more terminals after a report suggested that his rocket company had asked the Pentagon to pay for the donations.
That and the recommendation of a path to peace earned him a spot on the kill list.
I want to say Ukraine is ungrateful. Would that be too harsh? Pro-Russia reporterMaria Dubovikova claims NATO is hosting it and has allegedly produced the computer DNA to prove it.
MYROTVORETS AS PER WIKIMEDIA
Myrotvorets or Mirotvorets (Ukrainian: Миротворець, lit. ‘Peacemaker’ /mɪrɔ’tvɔrɛt͡sʲ/), is a Ukrainian Kyiv-based open-source investigation website and NGO that publishes a running list, and sometimes personal information, of people who authors of the organization consider “enemies of Ukraine,” or, as the website itself states, “whose actions have signs of crimes against the national security of Ukraine, peace, human security, and the international law.”
The website was launched in December 2014 by Ukrainian politician and activist Georgy Tuka. The site has remained open despite repeated requests from the UN, G7 ambassadors, the EU, and human rights groups to close it down. It acts to supplement government databases at checkpoints. In 2018, the German Foreign Ministry asked the Ukrainian government to delete the website.
The site reflects the work of NGO “Myrotvorets center” led by a person only known by the alias “Roman Zaitsev,” a former employee of the Luhansk Security Service of Ukraine.
The website is allegedly curated by the government law-enforcement and intelligence agency Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and was promoted by Advisor to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko.
The identity of the staff is secret.
According to George Tuka, the site has led to the arrest of 1,000 people since the site’s launch, which he claimed included many collaborators and people working for the Federal Security Service that would otherwise not be in any government databases.
Ukraine is not a democracy and imprisons its political opponents or journalists they don’t like.
By
M Dowling
October 14, 2022
Mirotvorets, or ‘Peacemaker,’ website, whose creators seek to bring ‘peace’ to their country with the help of extrajudicial killings (thanks to its list, known as a kill list), put Elon Musk on their kill list for about 15 minutes. Jackson Hinkle said someone probably told them Musk could dump their Starlink.
According to Wikipedia, for what Wikipedia is worth, Peacemaker is a private, open-source investigation website that has a list of Ukraine’s alleged enemies. Ukraine allows the website to continue.
The Ukrainian fascists are angry that Elon Musk won’t pay for Starlink indefinitely.
According to Reuters, Elon Musk said SpaceX cannot ‘indefinitely’ fund the Starlink internet service in Ukraine and send it several thousand more terminals after a report suggested that his rocket company had asked the Pentagon to pay for the donations.
That and the recommendation of a path to peace earned him a spot on the kill list.
I want to say Ukraine is ungrateful. Would that be too harsh? Pro-Russia reporterMaria Dubovikova claims NATO is hosting it and has allegedly produced the computer DNA to prove it.
MYROTVORETS AS PER WIKIMEDIA
Myrotvorets or Mirotvorets (Ukrainian: Миротворець, lit. ‘Peacemaker’ /mɪrɔ’tvɔrɛt͡sʲ/), is a Ukrainian Kyiv-based open-source investigation website and NGO that publishes a running list, and sometimes personal information, of people who authors of the organization consider “enemies of Ukraine,” or, as the website itself states, “whose actions have signs of crimes against the national security of Ukraine, peace, human security, and the international law.”
The website was launched in December 2014 by Ukrainian politician and activist Georgy Tuka. The site has remained open despite repeated requests from the UN, G7 ambassadors, the EU, and human rights groups to close it down. It acts to supplement government databases at checkpoints. In 2018, the German Foreign Ministry asked the Ukrainian government to delete the website.
The site reflects the work of NGO “Myrotvorets center” led by a person only known by the alias “Roman Zaitsev,” a former employee of the Luhansk Security Service of Ukraine.
The website is allegedly curated by the government law-enforcement and intelligence agency Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and was promoted by Advisor to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko.
The identity of the staff is secret.
According to George Tuka, the site has led to the arrest of 1,000 people since the site’s launch, which he claimed included many collaborators and people working for the Federal Security Service that would otherwise not be in any government databases.
Ukraine is not a democracy and imprisons its political opponents or journalists they don’t like.
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Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'
In an explosive, wide-ranging interview, the Pink Floyd co-founder discusses his controversial views on Ukraine — and Russia, and Wikileaks, and Israel, and so much more.
www.rollingstone.com
Fact check: Did Ukraine put Pink Floyd's Roger Waters on "kill list"?
Roger Waters claimed to be on a "kill list that is supported by the Ukrainian government." But is he right?
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Fact Check: Did Ukraine Put Pink Floyd's Roger Waters on 'Kill List'?
BY JAMES BICKERTON ON 10/5/22 AT 9:13 AM EDT
The British musician Roger Waters, formerly of rock group Pink Floyd, has taken controversial positions on a number of foreign policy issues recently, including the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine.
In September, he wrote an open letter to Ukrainian First Lady Olena Zelenskablaming "extreme nationalists" in Ukraine for the ongoing war, claiming Kyiv had "crossed any number of red lines that had been set out quite clearly" by Moscow.
The singer-songwriter called for an end to western arms supplies to Ukraine, which he described as fuel "thrown into the fire from Washington DC."
The remarks sparked a backlash, with Ukraine and allies accusing Waters of promoting the Kremlin's talking points and being an "apologist" for authoritarians.
Two of the ex-Floyd member's upcoming gigs in the Polish city of Krakow were canceled in protest, with Łukasz Wantuch, a Krakow city councilman, inviting Waters to "come with us to Ukraine and see for yourself how wrong you are."
The Claim
In a Rolling Stone magazine interview published in October, Roger Waters claimed to be "on a kill list that is supported by the Ukrainian government."
Waters said: "I'm on the f**king list, and they've killed people recently. When they kill you, they write 'liquidated' across your picture. Well, I'm one of those f**king pictures."
The Facts
While he doesn't clarify the finer details, the article's author suggests that Waters appears to be referring to the Mirotvorets list, compiled by Ukrainians, which launched online in December 2014 to detail those they believe are "enemies of Ukraine" who "have signs of crimes against the national security of Ukraine, peace, human security, and the international law."
"Waters' claim isn't true, but it isn't completely false, either," the article says.
"There is a list maintained by a far-right Ukrainian organization that contains hundreds of thousands of enemies of Ukraine, from alleged members of the Wagner private military company to journalists accused of cooperating with puppet governments in the Donbas region.
"The site, which has been roundly internationally condemned — but not taken down by the Ukrainian government itself — claims not to be a kill list but rather "information for law enforcement authorities and special services."
The authors do not provide evidence in support of the "far-right" epithet or clarify what "roundly internationally condemned" amounts to. Newsweek has reached out to the Rolling Stone for comment.
As various media reports on Mirotvorets note, it is an NGO that keeps an open-sourced database of persons that it deems to have promoted anti-Ukrainian narratives or acted to destabilize Ukraine's national security. Since the start of the war, it also keeps count of the Russian soldiers and agents killed on its territory.
It was founded by a Ukrainian politician and activist Heorhiy/Georgiy Tuka. It has also been closely linked to politician Anton Gerashchenko, whom The Times of London in a recent interview referred to as a co-founder of the project.
While the identities of the project's staff are kept secret, Gerashchenko insisted during an interview with the British publication that Mirotvorets is independent of the Ukrainian government and doesn't receive any state funding.
Notably, official Kyiv keeps its own separate list of people it labels "Russian propagandists," to which a number of U.S. conservatives including Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul were recently added.
On August 27, 2018, Waters was added to the unofficial Mirotvorets blacklist following comments he made to the Russian newspaper Izvestia, in which he appeared to justify Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea, internationally recognized as part of Ukraine.
Waters' listing on Mirotvorets accuses the musician of spreading "anti-Ukrainian propaganda" and backing "attempts to legalize the annexation of Crimea by Russia."
The Mirotvorets list has no official standing in Ukraine, though Al Jazeera, citing the rights group Uspishna Varta, reported that it had been used as evidence in more than 100 court cases against those suspected of involvement with pro-Russian paramilitaries.
In April 2015 two pro-Russian Ukrainians, politician Oleg Kalashnikov and publicist Oles Buzina, were shot dead in Kyiv.
Al Jazeera reported that the attacks took place just days after Mirotvorets published personal details, including addresses, about the two men, but no direct link has been found or proven in court.
Both men had been widely known for their pro-Russian and anti-government views that long predated their addition to the list.
Furthermore, there are reportedly as many as 200,000 people on the list now, including European political leaders, such as Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
That also includes some of the Russian-installed officials in occupied territories accused by Kyiv of being "collaborators," and some of whom have been targets of reported attacks and assassinations since the Russian occupation.
But there is no evidence to suggest they were targeted because they were named on the list; it was, far more likely, for their alleged roles in enabling the Russian invasion and occupation of Ukraine's territories.
Responding to Al-Jazeera's report, Gerashchenko said: "We are not a punitive body, we are an inquiry office."
Waters' listing on the site, contrary to the musicians claims, is not accompanied by any calls for violence or retribution, less so murder, but instead merely calls for authorities to investigate said persons.
"The Peacemaker Center asks law enforcement agencies to consider this publication on the website as a statement pointing out this citizen's deliberate acts against the national security of Ukraine, peace, the security of mankind and international law and order, as well as other offenses," the disclaimer says.
A separate disclaimer on the About page of the website also makes no calls for violence, and specifies that "The Peacemaker Center carries out its activities in strict accordance with the current legislation of Ukraine and international legal acts ratified by our state."
Roger Waters and Mirotvorets have been contacted for comment.
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Eva Karene Bartlett's tweet - "Musk added to Ukraine's Myrotvorets kill list (which includes 327 children!) I've been speaking & writing about this list for years, after being placed on it in 2019, but now that Musk is on it, after Roger Waters & others, perhaps the "peacemaker" list might itself be killed... " - Trendsmap
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Eva Bartlett herself, the journalist and pundit that Musk interacted with on Twitter, is reported to be on the kill list.
Screenshot of "liquidated persons" on the Myrotvorets site... names that appear were accused of publicly supporting Russia or of being "anti-Ukrainian", or being collaborators with the occupying Russian army.
While a screenshot of Musk's profile on the kill list is now being widely circulated, his name may have only briefly appeared on the website, reportedly having been taken down quickly after it became focus of attention on social media.
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Ukraine Targets Elon Musk, US Aid Dwindles, Ukraine's Offensive Increasi...
Elon Musk could be “Taken Out” | Now on Hit List.
Elon Musk could be “Taken Out” | Now on Hit List.
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That's what happens when you get in bed with criminals, Elon Musk.
If you had any balls you would cut their starlink service.
Hey Elon:
You can NEVER please Zio-Nazis,
whether Zio-Nazis from Ukraine .
It is NEVER enough. They always want more.
Be careful what you wish for. Those people are ruthless killers and have absolutely no connection to democracy. Why are we in bed with the very people we fought against in WWll? Insanity is in charge.
Zelensky should denounce and disavow any involvement in this "Kill List". Waiting 3 years now.
...still waiting.
If you had any balls you would cut their starlink service.
Lol...they can't bring themselves to tell the truth...it's run by..."far Right extremists"...aka...NAZIS!
Hey Elon:
You can NEVER please Zio-Nazis,
whether Zio-Nazis from Ukraine .
It is NEVER enough. They always want more.
Be careful what you wish for. Those people are ruthless killers and have absolutely no connection to democracy. Why are we in bed with the very people we fought against in WWll? Insanity is in charge.
Zelensky should denounce and disavow any involvement in this "Kill List". Waiting 3 years now.
...still waiting.
It was not a Ukrainian that added Musk to the list, it was a Tesla shareholder.
Took about 2 minutes on the first page to see the bat shit crazy going on there... .
"There is a list maintained by a far-right Ukrainian organization that contains hundreds of thousands of enemies of Ukraine, from alleged members of the Wagner private military company to journalists accused of cooperating with puppet governments in the Donbas region.
"The site, which has been roundly internationally condemned — but not taken down by the Ukrainian government itself — claims not to be a kill list but rather "information for law enforcement authorities and special services."
The authors do not provide evidence in support of the "far-right" epithet or clarify what "roundly internationally condemned" amounts to. Newsweek has reached out to the Rolling Stone for comment.
As various media reports on Mirotvorets note, it is an NGO that keeps an open-sourced database of persons that it deems to have promoted anti-Ukrainian narratives or acted to destabilize Ukraine's national security. Since the start of the war, it also keeps count of the Russian soldiers and agents killed on its territory.
It was founded by a Ukrainian politician and activist Heorhiy/Georgiy Tuka. It has also been closely linked to politician Anton Gerashchenko, whom The Times of London in a recent interview referred to as a co-founder of the project.
While the identities of the project's staff are kept secret, Gerashchenko insisted during an interview with the British publication that Mirotvorets is independent of the Ukrainian government and doesn't receive any state funding.
Notably, official Kyiv keeps its own separate list of people it labels "Russian propagandists," to which a number of U.S. conservatives including Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul were recently added.
On August 27, 2018, Waters was added to the unofficial Mirotvorets blacklist following comments he made to the Russian newspaper Izvestia, in which he appeared to justify Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea, internationally recognized as part of Ukraine.
Waters' listing on Mirotvorets accuses the musician of spreading "anti-Ukrainian propaganda" and backing "attempts to legalize the annexation of Crimea by Russia."
The Mirotvorets list has no official standing in Ukraine, though Al Jazeera, citing the rights group Uspishna Varta, reported that it had been used as evidence in more than 100 court cases against those suspected of involvement with pro-Russian paramilitaries.
In April 2015 two pro-Russian Ukrainians, politician Oleg Kalashnikov and publicist Oles Buzina, were shot dead in Kyiv.
Al Jazeera reported that the attacks took place just days after Mirotvorets published personal details, including addresses, about the two men, but no direct link has been found or proven in court.
Both men had been widely known for their pro-Russian and anti-government views that long predated their addition to the list.
Furthermore, there are reportedly as many as 200,000 people on the list now, including European political leaders, such as Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
That also includes some of the Russian-installed officials in occupied territories accused by Kyiv of being "collaborators," and some of whom have been targets of reported attacks and assassinations since the Russian occupation.
But there is no evidence to suggest they were targeted because they were named on the list; it was, far more likely, for their alleged roles in enabling the Russian invasion and occupation of Ukraine's territories.
In other words, it's compiled and run by a fringe group that has no connection to the government of Ukraine, in a country which is more primitive politically than the West and is in the middle of a violent large-scale war that includes occupation of some Ukrainian territories by Russia and collaboration with the occupiers by some Ukrainian officials. And there's a lot of angry happening in Ukraine, not all of which is wisely or appropriately directed.
This is installment #547 of the Russian narrative which proclaims that all Ukrainian authorities are neo Nazis and when Putin massacres Ukrainians he's really "saving" them from becoming Hitler.
"The site, which has been roundly internationally condemned — but not taken down by the Ukrainian government itself — claims not to be a kill list but rather "information for law enforcement authorities and special services."
The authors do not provide evidence in support of the "far-right" epithet or clarify what "roundly internationally condemned" amounts to. Newsweek has reached out to the Rolling Stone for comment.
As various media reports on Mirotvorets note, it is an NGO that keeps an open-sourced database of persons that it deems to have promoted anti-Ukrainian narratives or acted to destabilize Ukraine's national security. Since the start of the war, it also keeps count of the Russian soldiers and agents killed on its territory.
It was founded by a Ukrainian politician and activist Heorhiy/Georgiy Tuka. It has also been closely linked to politician Anton Gerashchenko, whom The Times of London in a recent interview referred to as a co-founder of the project.
While the identities of the project's staff are kept secret, Gerashchenko insisted during an interview with the British publication that Mirotvorets is independent of the Ukrainian government and doesn't receive any state funding.
Notably, official Kyiv keeps its own separate list of people it labels "Russian propagandists," to which a number of U.S. conservatives including Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul were recently added.
On August 27, 2018, Waters was added to the unofficial Mirotvorets blacklist following comments he made to the Russian newspaper Izvestia, in which he appeared to justify Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea, internationally recognized as part of Ukraine.
Waters' listing on Mirotvorets accuses the musician of spreading "anti-Ukrainian propaganda" and backing "attempts to legalize the annexation of Crimea by Russia."
The Mirotvorets list has no official standing in Ukraine, though Al Jazeera, citing the rights group Uspishna Varta, reported that it had been used as evidence in more than 100 court cases against those suspected of involvement with pro-Russian paramilitaries.
In April 2015 two pro-Russian Ukrainians, politician Oleg Kalashnikov and publicist Oles Buzina, were shot dead in Kyiv.
Al Jazeera reported that the attacks took place just days after Mirotvorets published personal details, including addresses, about the two men, but no direct link has been found or proven in court.
Both men had been widely known for their pro-Russian and anti-government views that long predated their addition to the list.
Furthermore, there are reportedly as many as 200,000 people on the list now, including European political leaders, such as Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
That also includes some of the Russian-installed officials in occupied territories accused by Kyiv of being "collaborators," and some of whom have been targets of reported attacks and assassinations since the Russian occupation.
But there is no evidence to suggest they were targeted because they were named on the list; it was, far more likely, for their alleged roles in enabling the Russian invasion and occupation of Ukraine's territories.
In other words, it's compiled and run by a fringe group that has no connection to the government of Ukraine, in a country which is more primitive politically than the West and is in the middle of a violent large-scale war that includes occupation of some Ukrainian territories by Russia and collaboration with the occupiers by some Ukrainian officials. And there's a lot of angry happening in Ukraine, not all of which is wisely or appropriately directed.
This is installment #547 of the Russian narrative which proclaims that all Ukrainian authorities are neo Nazis and when Putin massacres Ukrainians he's really "saving" them from becoming Hitler.
That America tax and Canadian tax dollar , EU,, and UK supporting corrupt & murderous government like Ukraine and the other attackers country asshole corrupt murderous government Russia no fucking better! Both governments Russia Putin and Ukraine Zelensky could both go to hell. I think the best is put both Putin & Zenlensky into WWF lock ring cage and let them kill each other!!
Maybe with some good luck both of them end up killing each other! Both die at the same time .
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Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World
Maybe with some good luck both of them end up killing each other! Both die at the same time .
See video:
Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World
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