TERB Guys don't like BBW's?

[Kayla]

Yes, you did all this. You are a veteran. Which means you should have known how this thread would have effected some of the women here. A place you say you helped create.

Yes, and I do apologize for that.. I should have considered the feelings of other sp's and I guess I was kind of hoping that after all this time, terb would have changed.

You know darn well the rules about women posting pics of themselves in the lounge. This has never been allowed. It is a slap in the face to providers that pay to be here and still can’t post pics of themselves in the lounge. You would have been the one removing them in this thread back in the day.

Yes for this you are correct as well and I totally forgot honestly.. another person asked for pics and I posted pics that I had taken many years ago that I used for my biz.

Also - how does anyone here know that you or other “retired” escorts are actually “retired”. You did say at this point, opening it up for changeYou know the game that some women sometimes play here. Post a thread in the lounge and gain tones of PM requests. We all know your PM box would have been full by now on the old software that allowed like 20 PMs only and you can’t deny that you have gotten PMs about coming out of the “retirement” from your return to the board.

No actually I didn't get but one pm and I wasn't looking for any pms. If I wanted that biz, I would have simply advertised, but yes I can see your point, other providers have done that. Anyone who knows me knows that I retired 20 years ago.. so there is no question there. I am thinking of getting back into the biz, but I didn't post here to try to bait clients or take them away from those of you who pay for advertising - I actually posted the thread because I was honestly trying to get a feel for the climate for bigger ladies to gauge the response to getting back into the business. Yes, I have looked at LL, but even that I asked about here because guys are saying not to hire any sp's from there.

So yes - while you can post and ask and discuss, you also have to know because you are such a vet, that this would not have gone well. You already know this is a hot topic, which is why you picked it. You knew there would be negative reactions to you stirring the pot and opening this up to be a bash-fest on bigger ladies. You are a smart women. You knew how this thread would go. I know you knew.

Actually on this, you are dead wrong. I didn't post the thread with any malicious intent at all.

Your title was not asking a question for discussion either, and you post came across as a blanket statement. If it were true, me and other big girls would not have business. Hence why I laughed, and said it is not true. Not all men like BBWs, but all men don’t dislike them either. Your statements say that there is no place here for women like me. Now my self-esteem can handle blanket statements like that, but others can’t so people like me, like @Amanda Labelle - we will speak out on their behalf and to be honest - again you would have done the same back in day so I don’t know why you are going back and forth on this with Amanda.

Very true, I agree with you, I should not have made such a blanket statement. As far as Amanda, I won't pretend to eat shit on a spoon and pretend to like it for no one. Her post was insulting so I will automatically defend myself. I didn't hold it personally against her and now I understand after she wrote more later on, why she said the things she did, but her delivery sucked. Also, my last post to her I did compliment her, I do think she is beautiful and that she did a great job on her website. I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it was true, so I don't hold any ill feelings towards her or anyone else here.

To me, since I truly believe you knew exactly what you were doing, you should just say you don’t give a shit about our reactions and feelings and you are here to solely have a good time with the guys. Girls be damned. You will undermine them at every turn you can. At least then we will know not to bother replying and just continue to report the behaviour that goes against the rules. Like I did when I reported your pics in this thread for removal.

As I said, it was not done with malicious intent and I'm not going to repeatedly apologize for something that wasn't my intention. Undermine ladies.. what would honestly be my motive - I don't even know you.

This board is full for review board culture. Which you already know. So It will always be like social media. Thin, young, etc will get most of the attention, get most of the likes and comments but in the real world, in reality, the truth is so much different.

Yes I agree with that

Guys don’t review big girls because they don’t want to get put down. Just like guys don’t review bi-sexual or tgirls, etc. because others will come in and make negative comments. Guy instead use the PM system. But all one has to do is see the amount of women who offer their services as a big girl and you see there is a huge market for it. Maybe not the insane big like 300/400+ lbs but for the average bigger woman, who has had kids, and has those feminine womanly curves. Your answers could have been found with a quick search on LL.

Anyways, welcome back. I hope your future threads don’t go off the rails like this. Please respect the advertisers here and don’t post pics, in the lounge. It is unfair to us advertisers and is simply not allowed and will continue to be reported.

Guys getting bashed for reviewing ladies.. yeah.. I hate that shit.. it's terrible..
Yes I won't be posting any more pics, thank you for having them deleted now that I realize how it was unfair to advertisers.

Your post made a lot of sense and was correct for the most part and very nicely written. I hope to speak to you again in the future. I will be more careful of my next postings and learn to find my filter lol.

Thank you for the welcome back and once again Jenesis, very nice to meet you!

 

[Jenesis]

Yes, and I do apologize for that.. I should have considered the feelings of other sp's and I guess I was kind of hoping that after all this time, terb would have changed.



Yes for this you are correct as well and I totally forgot honestly.. another person asked for pics and I posted pics that I had taken many years ago that I used for my biz.



No actually I didn't get but one pm and I wasn't looking for any pms. If I wanted that biz, I would have simply advertised, but yes I can see your point, other providers have done that. Anyone who knows me knows that I retired 20 years ago.. so there is no question there. I am thinking of getting back into the biz, but I didn't post here to try to bait clients or take them away from those of you who pay for advertising - I actually posted the thread because I was honestly trying to get a feel for the climate for bigger ladies to gauge the response to getting back into the business. Yes, I have looked at LL, but even that I asked about here because guys are saying not to hire any sp's from there.



Actually on this, you are dead wrong. I didn't post the thread with any malicious intent at all.



Very true, I agree with you, I should not have made such a blanket statement. As far as Amanda, I won't pretend to eat shit on a spoon and pretend to like it for no one. Her post was insulting so I will automatically defend myself. I didn't hold it personally against her and now I understand after she wrote more later on, why she said the things she did, but her delivery sucked. Also, my last post to her I did compliment her, I do think she is beautiful and that she did a great job on her website. I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it was true, so I don't hold any ill feelings towards her or anyone else here.



As I said, it was not done with malicious intent and I'm not going to repeatedly apologize for something that wasn't my intention. Undermine ladies.. what would honestly be my motive - I don't even know you.



Yes I agree with that



Guys getting bashed for reviewing ladies.. yeah.. I hate that shit.. it's terrible..
Yes I won't be posting any more pics, thank you for having them deleted now that I realize how it was unfair to advertisers.

Your post made a lot of sense and was correct for the most part and very nicely written. I hope to speak to you again in the future. I will be more careful of my next postings and learn to find my filter lol.

Thank you for the welcome back and once again Jenesis, very nice to meet you!

Thank you for reply. I have other questions in another thread. Hopefully you can help me with that as well. Maybe I am reading you wrong. You have clarified here so thank you and no need to repeatedly apologize. I get it. So can you clarify there as well please? I’m just trying to understand. Thanks.

 

[Kayla]

Thank you for reply. I have other questions in another thread. Hopefully you can help me with that as well. Maybe I am reading you wrong. You have clarified here so thank you and no need to repeatedly apologize. I get it. So can you clarify there as well please? I’m just trying to understand. Thanks.

The post where I saw the info on LL and asked about it is here: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/threat.794053/#post-7631209

But I have seen a few guys mention staying away from LL.

 

[Jenesis]

The post where I saw the info on LL and asked about it is here: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/threat.794053/#post-7631209

But I have seen a few guys mention staying away from LL.

LL is like Craigslist back in the day. Take with a grain of salt. Find the ad and then leave LL to do your research.

This where guys falter in their search for escorts. They get all horned up on the pics and don’t do the research. Kinda like me ordering shit from FB sponsor ads from shit from China. LOL. Never fits, if it even shows up and my own damn fault for not looking for reviews.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Female: "I want a man that is over 6 feet tall, makes a 6 figure income, has over 6 inch long cock, with 6 pack abs"
Male: "Cool story"

Man: "If I'm paying for sex, I want a fit lean friendly woman"
Woman: "Fatphobic misogynist Asshole!"

 

[Jenesis]

Female: "I want a man that is over 6 feet tall, makes a 6 figure income, has over 6 inch long cock, with 6 pack abs"
Male: "Cool story"

Man: "If I'm paying for sex, I want a fit lean friendly woman"
Woman: "Fatphobic misogynist Asshole!"

I would say that is kinda true for the younger crowd for sure. They think this is the way it should be. Like for 20-somethings, for 30s -you are starting to question if this is the way it should be. By 40s - you should know better. Hopefully. As the maturity sets in.

But that was fucking funny.

 

[richaceg]

im chubby and when I worked for an agency in barrie out of 50 skinny chicks I was the number 2 girl some of my best lovers were men with extra weight too
I love my big fat ass and the men that are attracted to me are driving me crazy because they are tall athetic types built like quarterbacks and so fuckin hot they will be rewarded with the best sex ever and you aint finding that from a skinny chick

That's probably a numbers game...If a guy walks in looking for a spinner...he's looking at 50 skinny chicks to choose from...when a guy walks in looking for a bbw, curvy, big boned whatever the term is, how many choices does he have aside from you? I've prefer mostly spinners and tall ladies, but had my share of the heavy stuff....and they're the ones who give the extra effort to please...

 

[Kayla]

LL is like Craigslist back in the day. Take with a grain of salt. Find the ad and then leave LL to do your research.

This where guys falter in their search for escorts. They get all horned up on the pics and don’t do the research. Kinda like me ordering shit from FB sponsor ads from shit from China. LOL. Never fits, if it even shows up and my own damn fault for not looking for reviews.

But this leads me back to my curiosity Jenesis.. guys don't post reviews here of bbw's because they don't wanna get trashed.. so where do they post reviews of them and where would they go for their research, you know what I mean? It's almost a double edged sword. People used to ask me back in the day how HFH was so busy and how they can make their place busier.. and it was the same thing.. you gotta get the good ladies to want to work there, but you can't get them unless you are busy and you can't get busy unless you have good ladies. Ugh.. makes it hard to navigate the business and the proper direction to go.

I have seen on some ladies websites, they refer back to reviews written on them on terb or elsewhere. How do you do that if there are no reviews written on you?

I'm just trying to understand the climate now for the pros.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

I would say that is kinda true for the younger crowd for sure. They think this is the way it should be. Like for 20-somethings, for 30s -you are starting to question if this is the way it should be. By 40s - you should know better.

That late in life? Wow!

 

[John Wick]

I think it's hilarious, yet not unpredictable, that the BBW faction is trying to flip the narrative from 'men prefer skinny, slim, athletic women' (particularly in pay-for-pay) to 'men now prefer BBWs'. Fake news, if ever I read it. Just because the politically correct movement is ramming their 'body positivity' agenda down our throats at every turn does not mean that agenda reflects popular opinion in reality.

No one but a social justice warrior would assert that in the escorting industry men prefer BBWs to thinner women. It simply is not true. 9 times out of ten guys will pick slim over fat when paying for sex. The reviews on this board and others are clearly evidence of that. Are there outliers that prefer BBW? Sure there are, hence there is a small market demand, but it is badly dwarfed by the traditional desires of men across all races, colors and creeds. To suggest their is a huge hidden market for BBWs that never sees the light of day for fear of preference backlash is a gross misrepresentation of reality.

Propping up the false narrative with 'as men get older, they get smarter and hence recognize the value of the BBW proposition, so they innately transition from thin prospects to fat ones is hilarious! Again, not reality. When a man is paying, it's for fantasy experiences, and the massively overwhelmingly definition of fantasy experience is thin(ner), not fat(ter).

Women on this board are always screaming that men don't know women, so have no right to any opinion in context, yet when these same posters need, apparently it's entirely acceptable for them to speculate about how much they think they know about men. In this case, that they know our minds and preferences better that we do. C'mon, man. Such nonsense.

If you ask me, there was nothing wrong or untoward in Kayla's original post. Some just don't like the reality of the responses, as to admit that reality as truth is counter to their business interests.

Fact is, sex sells. Thinner chicks are infinitely more attractive and far more in demand across the hobbyist pool. Always have been, always will be. Sorry.

IRL there are certainly men willing to 'settle' for something less than fantasy material, but real life is not pay for play, so options are more limited when the attractiveness field of play is more level.

 

[John Wick]

That late in life? Wow!

Didn't you know...as we men get older, what we find physically attractive completely changes and shifts from one end of the spectrum to the extreme opposite end. We used to love steak, but as we get older, dog food starts to look pretty damn appetizing, because we have learned over time all the cool yet previously unknown benefits that dog food offers.

An extreme use of words, I know, but I'm trying to make a point about the silliness of the core assertion (not to deliberately insult anyone here).

Most 80 year old hobbyists, when given a choice to pay to fuck an escort, will choose a thin(ner) escort rather than a fat(ter) one unless they have always been predisposed to heavier women. Age does not change that perception of female attractiveness anywhere near to the degree that is being asserted here. The cock wants what the cock wants, and age doesn't really affect that, particularly in pay for play situations.

 

[Josephine Grey]

 

[Fun For All]

I stand corrected Poker. Is there a similar short form for big breasted women ?

No short form, you just yell out " Look at the tits on her."

 

[Kayla]

I think it's hilarious, yet not unpredictable, that the BBW faction is trying to flip the narrative from 'men prefer skinny, slim, athletic women' (particularly in pay-for-pay) to 'men now prefer BBWs'. Fake news, if ever I read it. Just because the politically correct movement is ramming their 'body positivity' agenda down our throats at every turn does not mean that agenda reflects popular opinion in reality.

No one but a social justice warrior would assert that in the escorting industry men prefer BBWs to thinner women. It simply is not true. 9 times out of ten guys will pick slim over fat when paying for sex. The reviews on this board and others are clearly evidence of that. Are there outliers that prefer BBW? Sure there are, hence there is a small market demand, but it is badly dwarfed by the traditional desires of men across all races, colors and creeds. To suggest their is a huge hidden market for BBWs that never sees the light of day for fear of preference backlash is a gross misrepresentation of reality.

Propping up the false narrative with 'as men get older, they get smarter and hence recognize the value of the BBW proposition, so they innately transition from thin prospects to fat ones is hilarious! Again, not reality. When a man is paying, it's for fantasy experiences, and the massively overwhelmingly definition of fantasy experience is thin(ner), not fat(ter).

Women on this board are always screaming that men don't know women, so have no right to any opinion in context, yet when these same posters need, apparently it's entirely acceptable for them to speculate about how much they think they know about men. In this case, that they know our minds and preferences better that we do. C'mon, man. Such nonsense.

If you ask me, there was nothing wrong or untoward in Kayla's original post. Some just don't like the reality of the responses, as to admit that reality as truth is counter to their business interests.

Fact is, sex sells. Thinner chicks are infinitely more attractive and far more in demand across the hobbyist pool. Always have been, always will be. Sorry.

IRL there are certainly men willing to 'settle' for something less than fantasy material, but real life is not pay for play, so options are more limited when the attractiveness field of play is more level.

Then could a SP that is a bbw be termed as a fetish?
It is true, at least on the net, that many guys are preferring thick women.. they like the big tits, big ass and small waistline apparently. So I guess that would be a mix between bbw and thin lol.
My ex used to say.. 'I don't wanna fuck a rail!' lol.. so I know that there are men out there that don't particularly like thin women.
I believe what Jenesis said, there is a market for it, but the men who see bbw's don't feel comfortable posting reviews on them here because of how they will be received.
This is all in my opinion of course.

 

[fall]

From what I have read and seeing only a few ads on here for bbw's, I take it that many TERB guys don't prefer bbw's? Just curious.. you know me.. no filter lol..

Actually, most guys (not just on TERB) do not BBW. And most of so called BBW do not have the quality of the second "B" in the BBW.

 

[NotADcotor]

guys don't post reviews here of bbw's because they don't wanna get trashed..

Is this actually a thing. I don't ever recall anyone being trashed for this.
Hell people post questions for shemales, those get pushback but, adult males can deal with that so it doesn't stop.
Questions on oldest SP, all sorts of kink. Don't think I've ever seen anyone get trashed. A eww gross isn't getting trashed and much like Mr T, I pity the fool that would be fearful of having someone respond to their kink with that level of response to the point of claming up.

 

[John Wick]

Then could a SP that is a bbw be termed as a fetish?
It is true, at least on the net, that many guys are preferring thick women.. they like the big tits, big ass and small waistline apparently. So I guess that would be a mix between bbw and thin lol.
My ex used to say.. 'I don't wanna fuck a rail!' lol.. so I know that there are men out there that don't particularly like thin women.
I believe what Jenesis said, there is a market for it, but the men who see bbw's don't feel comfortable posting reviews on them here because of how they will be received.
This is all in my opinion of course.

I wouldn't diminish a man's desire for an escort who is a BBW by calling his desire a fetish. It's just his physical preference. There are certainly men out there in not insignificant numbers who share that preference, but the reality is that regardless of their number, in context of the pool at large, they remain in the vast minority. That minority grows even smaller in pay for play. That was the essence of your original question and the responses that followed, I believe.

I would also challenge that men who see BBW's are afraid to write reviews on boards. If, as asserted, there are so many of them out there seeing BBWs as their physical preference, stands to reason those same dudes are reading and responding to reviews. Why would they be bashing a review that represents their own preferences?

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Men on an anonymous forum like TERB are in no way dissuaded from writing reviews about the women they see because of the body type of the SPs.

Some guys write reviews about SPs that are as thin as crackheads, SPs that give brown showers, and so on.

As a man that gets off on a certain type of woman, I couldn't care less what the broader audience thinks. I post for those that share my passions.. I think I speak for the overwhelming majority of posters in this regard.

It's akin to a grown man being afraid to write a review that he likes a certain flavor of ice cream that others don't like. It's just not a thing.

 

[NotADcotor]

Women on this board are always screaming that men don't know women, so have no right to any opinion in context, yet when these same posters need, apparently it's entirely acceptable for them to speculate about how much they think they know about men. In this case, that they know our minds and preferences better that we do. C'mon, man. Such nonsense.

Not just on the board.
Remember, you should respect fat chicks, especially skinny bitch cunts. [I think it was Dr Phil or maybe Steve Harvey pointing it out when someone in the audience seemed to be going out of her way to slam a guest for being thin at the same time demanding body positivity

Remember, if is perfect OK for a woman to demand a 6 foot+ 8 inch by 6 inch dick no matter how extremely rare and unrealistic it is, but if a dude has even reasonable standards, he is an entitled shithead and love comes in all shapes and sizes... but only when it comes to women.

Also I need a tall guy with a big dick, but if you don't want to date 300 pound land whale you are a body shaming asshole. Never mind that weight is the result of your actions, you can't do anything about height or dick size. I thought putting people down for things beyond their control was not cool. Oh well next time I meet my friend who is confined to a wheelchair I'll be sure to throw rocks at him and make fun of his cripple ass. Good to know.

I say this BTW as someone who is 6'2, but yeah, if you won't date a guy whose height starts with a size and make videos mocking them, well don't date chicks whose weight needs 3 digits.

People should be allowed to have standards, to be grossed out by some people [but keep their mouths shut about it]. I remember one time in a class someone said size doesn't matter as a double play on words and this 300 pound old woman loudly said yes it does [or maybe it was the echo]. I looked back, and was grossed out, she was disgusting looking. I didn't say anything though. I did think, if there were anyone in the room cursed with a sub optimal penis or even a micro penis, and statistically speaking I am sure there were a few on the short end of the stick wink wink that land whale must of made them feel like total shit, if they were not throwing up a little in their mouths .

But double standards are double... and standard I guess. Men are not allowed preferences, only women are. Men are not allowed to have and voice preferences, only women are.

So yeah, when faced with this, I use the term land whale.

Oh and if you are thinking of making fun of someone in a wheel chair...

 

[Kayla]

I wouldn't diminish a man's desire for an escort who is a BBW by calling his desire a fetish. It's just his physical preference. There are certainly men out there in not insignificant numbers who share that preference, but the reality is that regardless of their number, in context of the pool at large, they remain in the vast minority. That minority grows even smaller in pay for play. That was the essence of your original question and the responses that followed, I believe.

I would also challenge that men who see BBW's are afraid to write reviews on boards. If, as asserted, there are so many of them out there seeing BBWs as their physical preference, stands to reason those same dudes are reading and responding to reviews. Why would they be bashing a review that represents their own preferences?

Hmm okay, it's strange because that's what I've heard (about guys taking crap because they are reviewing a bbw).. maybe I'm just not looking at the whole picture.

Yes, that was the whole purpose of my post, you are right. Thank you