Is Joe Biden after 10 months: Worst president ever?

Frankfooter

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The ideal society is where nobody needs to work if they don’t want to and can work if they want to because they don’t have to. That their basic human needs are taken care of and supporting systems provided like medical and clean water.
But the closest examples of that would socialist democracies in northern europe.
 

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But the closest examples of that would socialist democracies in northern europe.
If they can achieve that here or in the USA I would be very supportive of that.

I don’t believe the present USA administration is taking us down this route.

I am not convinced that it will get to that state with the present leadership, but would love to be wrong and see this part of the world actually improve to those standards and quality of life.

My biased intuition tells me the Biden administration is not interested in this desired outcome, are in it just for themselves and their small group of wealthy circles. Every day I see it worse and can’t look past the mess they left in Afghanistan. Look at inflation, cost of goods and gas and the economy now. Look at how many homeless people out there, losing jobs, depressed, domestic abuse on the rise. Etc. It’s spiralling out of control way too quickly and he is not uniting people like he promised. Seems like he just cares about what his handlers tell him how to act, and has been put in that situation for strategic purposes. Sometimes I feel bad seeing an old and frail person being taken advantage like that to be the face, take all the blame while his administration calls all the shots.
 

Frankfooter

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If they can achieve that here or in the USA I would be very supportive of that.

I don’t believe the present USA administration is taking us down this route.

I am not convinced that it will get to that state with the present leadership, but would love to be wrong and see this part of the world actually improve to those standards and quality of life.

My biased intuition tells me the Biden administration is not interested in this desired outcome, are in it just for themselves and their small group of wealthy circles. Every day I see it worse and can’t look past the mess they left in Afghanistan. Look at inflation, cost of goods and gas and the economy now. Look at how many homeless people out there, losing jobs, depressed, domestic abuse on the rise. Etc. It’s spiralling out of control way too quickly and he is not uniting people like he promised. Seems like he just cares about what his handlers tell him how to act, and has been put in that situation for strategic purposes. Sometimes I feel bad seeing an old and frail person being taken advantage like that to be the face, take all the blame while his administration calls all the shots.
I agree Biden isn't, but AOC and the new generation most certainly are interested.
 

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I think Bill Maher summed up Biden's numbers quite well last week. Trump had his mindless zombie fans backing whatever move he did and had a significant part of the GOP backing him simply because he's a Republican. Biden never had passionate support from many other than being acceptable to enough so democrats don't feel the need blindly back him.
 

Valcazar

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People is Cuba are not free and are controlled by the few. What has enabled this system to take root?

It’s irrelevant what you call it this does not support humanity and true freedom from control.

So many other countries with similar examples.

Why do you want that here?
People in Cuba not being free doesn't mean Cuba is fascist.
Words mean things.
You think "it is irrelevant what you call it" - we disagree.

If you don't actually mean fascism, maybe don't call it fascism.
 

Valcazar

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I supported people that support that ideology. I was always against people who canceled the right because of their political views like in local Facebook groups. This is where it started.

I support people to believe whatever they want.
You have said repeatedly that you don't support people who support ideology and all ideology is bullshit.
Make up your mind, please.

It’s obviously the pendulum has swung to the proclaimed “left” and the proclaimed right is being shunned, shamed, cancelled, daemonised and excluded especially on here. It’s like a pile on free for all of anyone says anything supportive of trump or their supporters.

If the right we’re doing this to the left I would be the exact same way.
Your argument then is there is no truth, no morality, and no sense of right or wrong.
The only thing that matters is who has more people at the moment and you will support the other side.
If people sponsoring fascism and dictatorship were being told they were bad and being piled on, you would support fascism because they were being piled on.

Hell of an ideology you have, there.

I believe all ideologies are bullshit and man made made up.
Which is why you are so passionate about your personal bullshit ideology.
Got it.

I also believe anyone has the right to believe whatever they want as long as they are not forcing their beliefs on others, or taking away someone else’s basic human rights. Rights to political and religion is one of them.
There is no evidence you believe any of this since you repeatedly support people who believe in forcing their beliefs on others.
 

Valcazar

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The ideal society is where nobody needs to work if they don’t want to and can work if they want to because they don’t have to. That their basic human needs are taken care of and supporting systems provided like medical and clean water.

To get here will take a lot of time, effort and evolution. We can’t force this system down people’s throats because people, resources, and our collective consciousness is not ready.
Cool.
You want a utopia and hope we get there one day.
Don't think anyone disagrees with that as a nice dream.

We need to first figure out the energy problems, sustainability problems, medical problems, environment, ideological differences etc to get it there.

One way to get there is through AI, robots, technology and slowly evolving on the present systems we have such as capitalism where it rewards innovation for progress at the cost of present inequality and some existing corruption.
If we support inequality and further control of people by a small percentage of rulers, we will get to utopia because inequality means no one is being forced?
Interesting ideology you have there.

Anytime you try to force this down people’s throats dictators, fascist and the ones who yearn for power will figure out how to strategize themselves in whatever system “revolutionizes” the status quo and regain control over the people in the name of this said system intended to free the people from previous controls.

That systems are vulnerable to bad actors is a huge issue and a place where we seem to disagree is you hoping there is some kind of evolution of consciousness that makes planning for how to deal with bad people unnecessary is something I don't think is sensible.
I'm glad at least we agree that putting people like Musk in a position to subvert the ideals you want and strategize himself to have maximum control of the people is a bad thing, but you still seem to want "capitalism" and its inequality as the method despite people like him and Bezos subverting it to keep themselves in power and control.
 

Valcazar

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I am not convinced that it will get to that state with the present leadership,
Then why push for a leadership that is even less likely to achieve it?

My biased intuition tells me the Biden administration is not interested in this desired outcome, are in it just for themselves and their small group of wealthy circles. Every day I see it worse and can’t look past the mess they left in Afghanistan.
You preferred that they imposed their will in Afghanistan and used military control to impose their ideas and destroy the religious beliefs of the Afghan people?
That seems in contradiction to your expressed ideology.

Look at inflation, cost of goods and gas and the economy now. Look at how many homeless people out there, losing jobs, depressed, domestic abuse on the rise.
All things you said you are in favor of because the inequality of capitalism is necessary for your ideological goals.

Etc. It’s spiralling out of control way too quickly and he is not uniting people like he promised.
His inability to force people to be united is a problem because he isn't strong enough to suppress the people who disagree?
 

dirtydaveiii

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Your supreme leader did this which you and your buds bow down, worship and defend every day like some compulsive obsessive cult. Relax bro he is not a god. I know you think he can do no wrong but eventually reality in supporting this failure will spill into your own life.

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Are those Trump numbers ? That can be the only loser you are describing
 

jcpro

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People in Cuba not being free doesn't mean Cuba is fascist.
Words mean things.
You think "it is irrelevant what you call it" - we disagree.

If you don't actually mean fascism, maybe don't call it fascism.
Yes, it's socialism. REAL socialism.
 

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Way to early to judge Biden's legacy as President. As far as I'm concerned it's a toss up between Bush Jr and Jimmy Carter
 

Dutch Oven

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Still the worst in modern history, and counting!
 
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Yup, the way he was impeached so many times, lost the most jobs and lied so often clearly mean he was the worst.
Yawn, Joe's polls say it all. The DP polls scream. My only regret is that Joe passed away before he could fully appreciate the size of his failure.
 

Dave58

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TRUMP lost the election and he's still whining about

He was the worse president
an d even more horrible human being

LOCK HIM UP!
 

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Why is this guy so bad at his job? Can he do anything for the best interest of his people? How is it possible to suck this much?

Joe Biden is the best president America ever had ...and he's also the most popular (81mil voted for him) !
 
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