Discreet Dolls

Kyle Rittenhouse trial

Status
Not open for further replies.

y2kmark

Class of 69...
May 19, 2002
19,045
5,431
113
Lewiston, NY
Actually the prosecution never does lie. It's a disbarment offence to suppress evidence or lie to the judge. No lawyer is going to do it.

It's also ludicrous. How do you win a trial when you tell the jury: "You didn't actually see a chain in that photo did you? Of course you didn't." when there is an obvious chain. It's silly.
Chain of evidence?
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
94,610
23,916
113
You can't even understand what I wrote . The video was shown for the first time today . From what the defence says . They were not provided with the video prior to today . So full disclosure did not happen .
As Mandrill said, that doesn't happen.

The video has shown up in two places now.
1) some unknown blog that says it proves KR is innocent
2) court, where the prosecutor says it proves KR instigated the violence

We've seen this before.

So why do you believe the blog and not the people staking their careers on what they present in court?
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
78,667
97,362
113
Chain of evidence?
No. On the Gun Rights talk show podcast that Kathleen found, they have a photo of Rosenbaum with what they claim is a chain - to be used as a weapon. From which they spin that the prosecutor "lied" and Rittenhouse is clearly innocent.
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
78,667
97,362
113
Sweet Jesus.....They will get the knives out for you on this board if you bring up the Donald.
Well, considering that this thread is about Rittenhouse, I'm not sure why you and your buddies are bringing up Trump.

Isn't this when you and your friends start going on about "Trump Dysphoria Syndrome"?
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
78,667
97,362
113
easier said than done...
If the last bullet went into the vic's back? And the vic was already falling after the impact of the first 2 bullets?

I guess that KR can argue that it all happened pretty fast. But still.
 

richaceg

Well-known member
Feb 11, 2009
15,060
7,009
113
If the last bullet went into the vic's back? And the vic was already falling after the impact of the first 2 bullets?

I guess that KR can argue that it all happened pretty fast. But still.
it did happen pretty fast, from just standing there to being chased at and assaulted to shooting the other dude...from a guy who's may have fired his gun at a shooting range but really no experience in gun fights...
 
  • Like
Reactions: mandrill

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
94,610
23,916
113
it did happen pretty fast, from just standing there to being chased at and assaulted to shooting the other dude...from a guy who's may have fired his gun at a shooting range but really no experience in gun fights...
Yes, this teenager, self declared medic, armed with an illegal assault weapon got into this fight very quickly.
The onion article sums up the claims of the defence, that once he got involved he thought his life was at risk so was justified in killing anyone he felt was a threat.
He had no business being there as a 'medic' with an assault weapon.
 

Bbw hunter

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2018
1,269
804
113
Don't you love how some people think they have the high moral ground when they are defending some human trash who tried killing a teenager?
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
78,667
97,362
113
Don't you love how some people think they have the high moral ground when they are defending some human trash who tried killing a teenager?
Well, so far you have Rosenbaum, who grabbed at the AR and got shot, Skateboard Dude who wacked KR to the ground and got shot and Vic #3 who may or may not have had a gun who got his elbow blown off.

Not much evidence of anyone trying to "kill" KR. KR may have reasonably perceived his life to be threatened and that's something for the jury. But there are no obvious actual attempts to kill KR on the record.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jalimon

Bbw hunter

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2018
1,269
804
113
You may have a point. Maybe Rosenbaum wasn't trying to kill him...just sexually molest him. We know he is into that with minors.
Yet somehow I doubt it.
KR had every reason to believe he was in harm's way.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sshotrr

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
78,667
97,362
113
You may have a point. Maybe Rosenbaum wasn't trying to kill him, just sexually molest him.
We know he was into that with minors.
Whatever Rosenbaum was "into with minors" has no relevance to the murder trial.
 

Bbw hunter

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2018
1,269
804
113
If KR had reason to fear for his life or believed he was at great risk for serious injury, that would be reasonable grounds for self-defense, no?
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
78,667
97,362
113
If KR had reason to fear for his life or believed he was at great risk for serious injury, that would be reasonable grounds for self-defense, no?
Correct. And it's complicated, because he subjectively needs to have the belief and it also has to be objectively reasonably held. But if someone chases you and grabs your gun - i.e. the Rosenbaum situation - you can argue it.

There is also caselaw that if you provoke the other person into attacking you, you just get a reduction to manslaughter and not an acquittal. So there's a lot to think about.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bbw hunter

jalimon

Well-known member
Jan 10, 2016
7,462
7,553
113
If KR had reason to fear for his life or believed he was at great risk for serious injury, that would be reasonable grounds for self-defense, no?
Correct. Still what kind of fucked up society let teens running down the street at night shooting at people? This is the US he will get away with this. Still crazy AF!

And if KR was black... He'd already behind bars if not dead.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts