Your posting history is the proof.
But if you want to clarify,
1) Are rockets from Hamas legitimate self defense or are they completely unjustified?
2) Are Jewish civilians in the West Bank legitimate targets or are attacks on them unjustifiable?
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But if you want to clarify,
1) Are rockets from Hamas legitimate self defense or are they completely unjustified?
2) Are Jewish civilians in the West Bank legitimate targets or are attacks on them unjustifiable?
You are so full of shit if you're saying youth should be allowed to attack people. And yes, a 12 or 15 year old Canadian attacking police will also get arrested or shot. As zoo sad, why are you afraid to discuss the circumstances (other than fear the shootings ay be justified and you lose another chance to demonize Israel)?
Another poll where where Westerners tell the Palestinians what to do?
that's where you are wrong frank I do not support shooting teens (nor have I seen Basketcase say he did either , BUT when these teens attack Israeli soldiers, the soldiers have a right to defend themselves they also have the obligation to protect the country they serve when you have crowds organized by terrorists attack the border the soldiers defend themselves and the border
you have never been in the field frank, I have seen "children" kill men if you involve yourself in an armed fight at any age death is a very real possibility and a usual outcome
multiple people have asked you directly if hamas is a terrorist group?
you never answer you beat around the bush
1) As I've stated repeatedly, Hamas rockets are defined as indiscriminate weapons, like Israeli tank fire and artillery shellings, because they can't be aimed only at military weapons. They are classified as war crimes, but not terrorism unless aimed directly at civilian targets. Israel repeatedly used artillery and tank fire on Gaza, a similar though much more devastating version of the same war crime. Which is why I say let the ICC investigate and charge both sides. While you support Israeli war crimes, apartheid and terrorism and will never support them being held to the law.
2) As B'tselem has posted, Israeli settlers are civilians until they aren't. Once they are armed and attacking Palestinian civilians with the backing of the IDF they are no longer acting as civilians, they are just war criminals on illegal settlements committing terrorism with the backing of the state. I say let the ICC come in and sort out which are acting as civilians and which ones are terrorists. Again, you defend all settler acts of terrorism and refuse to support investigations on both sides. This is part of the apartheid violence you defend here.
As B'tselem states:
State-Backed Settler Violence
State-Backed Settler Violence
Violence by settlers (and sometimes by other Israeli civilians) toward Palestinians has long since become part of daily life under occupation in the West Bank. These actions range from blocking roads, throwing stones at cars and houses, raiding villages and farmland, torching fields and olive groves, and damaging crops and property to physical assault, sometimes to the point of hurling Molotov cocktails or using live fire. Over the years, this widespread violence toward Palestinians has resulted in injuries to life and limb, as well as damage to property and land.
Under international law, Israel has a duty to protect Palestinians in the West Bank from this conduct. However, Israeli authorities routinely shirk this responsibility, even when the violent actions can be anticipated. Thousands of testimonies, videos and reports, as well as many years of close monitoring by B’Tselem and other organizations, reveal that Israeli security forces not only allow settlers to harm Palestinians and their property as a matter of course – they often provide the perpetrators escort and back-up. In some cases, they even join in on the attack. In other instances, security forces have prevented anticipated harm by removing the targeted Palestinians, rather than the Israeli assailants.
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You think a 13 year old child is a threat to a sniper hiding behind a prison wall, complete with barbed wire?
Are you claiming that those snipers couldn't have used non-lethal rounds, why?
There is no evil act by Israel that you won't defend, is there?
Admit it, basketcase, shooting children is wrong.
Thank you for confirming what I posted by justifying exactly what claimed.
If someone is part of a group of shooters, they sure as hell are. Neither you nor I know for sure and despite all your talk about supporting investigations, you have no problem claiming Israel is evil without one.
One of those polls said 45% of the people living inside Israel say Israel is apartheid.
That's an Israeli poll, taken by B'tselem, and Israeli human rights organization polling Israelis.
Its a given that you're so racist you'll never listen to Palestinians, but why won't you listen to Israeli Jews or North American Jews?
New all population Israeli-Palestinian survey: 45% of those living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea believe “apartheid” is an appropriate description of the regime
Those were Palestinian protesters, they don't have rifles or serious weapons.
Israel has snipers, drones, tanks, artillery, jets and missiles.
And still Palestinians are protesting and still Israel keeps shooting them.
And you are still defending shooting civilians.
Your posting history is the proof.
But if you want to clarify,
1) Are rockets from Israel legitimate self defense or are they completely unjustified?
2) Are Palestinian civilians in the West Bank and Gaza legitimate targets or are attacks on them unjustifiable?
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no because the act was over no danger existed at that point arrest them and Israel does charge people who do things like this
Bullshit.
Answer this, here's a report from Al Jazeera detailing yet another attack by settlers with the backing of the IDF on Palestinians. A near daily event.
According to your claims, you would say these settlers are 'civilians' and Palestinians have no right to self defence against them.
“The settlers raided the village last week, accompanied by soldiers, and set fire to our olive orchards and chopped down some trees that had taken decades to grow,” Sawalma told Al Jazeera.
So answer this question:
1) Are those settlers acting as civilians or militants?
2) Do Palestinians have a right to self defence against settler attacks on them and their property?
Helping hand: Israeli forces in the service of Jewish settlers
Palestinians in Urif village fear for their lives as attacks by illegal Jewish settlers surge and Israeli troops assist.
Here's the poll of westerners that you're looking for:
Nobody supports the apartheid status quo except you and people like contact and cantaro.
Poll: 50% of Americans think military aid to Israel should be restricted
A new poll shows support for restricting US military aid to Israel, and a growing acceptance for a one-state solution.
This poll also show that my views are the majority view both here and in Israel and that your views are the minority view now.
Americans think either an independent Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza (56%) or a one-state solution in which Israelis and Palestinians are treated as equal citizens (60%) is acceptable. Relatively few say the status quo is acceptable (26%).
Israeli Arabs also find a two-state (69%) or one-state (56%) resolution acceptable, but not the status quo. Israeli Jews tend to find all options unacceptable, though the status quo is the most acceptable (42%).
Riddle me this....if that poll is accurate or correct, why doesn't the US do it? Because it's not an accurate poll....you keep posting links that pull out numbers out of whoever's asses....you keep whining about ICC will investigate...none of this is ever happening because everyone else knows Israel is pitted against a terrorist faction...i think you're the only one who doesn't think Hamas is a terrorist faction...none of these protests even get any reaction from Biden and Trudeau at this point...
The accusation of terrorism is meant to dehumanize all Palestinians in order to justify suspending all the rules of war and basic human rights. You, and the very racist supporters of Israel use it as a way to justify terrorism committed by Israel.
Riddle me this, why do you say that when Israel targets civilian protesters in the West Bank and Gaza, shooting them with live fire, is that not targeting civilians or terrorism?
Why is not terrorism to you when Israel uses missiles to destroy multiple residential towers in Gaza but you think its terrorism when Hamas fires its crappy home made rockets?
We both know the answer.
Its because the supporters of Israel, as a supporter of apartheid, likely think Palestinians are 'subhuman' terrorists that they and you likely think need to be exterminated.
This summer, after the massive BLM protests in the states the Palestinian movement was identified as a race issue and aligned with BLM. That's the reason the polls have changed.
People around the world are realizing that Israel is an incredibly racist and violent, apartheid state.
End apartheid.
Support equal rights.
Why do think that's wrong?
YOu're the one demonizing Israel, nobody is dehumanizing Palestinians here...Hamas on the other hand was never a benefit for the Palestinians...and they will continue to because of their hatred of Jews...at the expense of the people they swore to "protect"
Stop trying to convince people on the Internet. You never will succeed.
There are people who view Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Intifada Ayatollah as terrorists who use children as shields and those that view Jews as raiding colonists, apartheidists, police state child killers and world dominant bankers. You cannot change the others opinions.
not one solution has been even offered here. No hope for peace in their future or their children’s future.
There are people who view Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Intifada Ayatollah as terrorists who use children as shields and those that view Jews as raiding colonists, apartheidists, police state child killers and world dominant bankers. You cannot change the others opinions.
not one solution has been even offered here. No hope for peace in their future or their children’s future.
