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Unvaccinated employees at Toronto hospital network told they will be fired

Knuckle Ball

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If I was a doctor I would in no way feel obligated to treat covidiots who refuse to comply with basic public health measures. Go find another doc; I choose not to take responsibility for your medical care.
 

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Not to mention the boat load of cash it will take to sever all of them.

Justin can threaten to fire the federal employees because it is not his money that will be paid out on legal and severance costs.
It would be worth it for hospitals to be rid of people who don't understand how disease works - a hospital? If you feel you are being mistreated, let the hospital patients vote on it...
 

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Sounds like an empty threat because what are they gonna do when all 700 employees who dont wanna be vaccinated quit or are fired?? The hospitals would become severely understaffed
The article clearly states that not all 900 staff haven't been vaccinated but rather haven't provided their vaccine status or indicated weather or not they are vaccinated.
I bet a vast majority have been fully vaccinated but just haven't provided the proof.
 
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The thing is human nature being what it is. Imagine a fed up doc or nurse who hears the nonsense spewed by an antivaxxer/covid denier and now has to give this jackass the best care he/she can. Hmmmm, deep down does he/she give the best care? Hmmmm, I admit I couldn't and would secretly make them suffer a bit, ok maybe a lot. LOL
So does that logic only to patients who are anti-vaxxers? What about someone who comes in who overdosed? Tried to commit suicide? Was a drunk driver? A wife/kid abuser?

It is a slippery slope to compromise your ethics.
 

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If I was a doctor I would in no way feel obligated to treat covidiots who refuse to comply with basic public health measures. Go find another doc; I choose not to take responsibility for your medical care.
Don't forget smokers, drug addicts and obese people.......No treatment for them as well right?
 

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So does that logic only to patients who are anti-vaxxers? What about someone who comes in who overdosed? Tried to commit suicide? Was a drunk driver? A wife/kid abuser?

It is a slippery slope to compromise your ethics.
The difference is these folks are in your face and the same folks fighting lockdowns now are fighting vaccines when realistically there is absolutely no valid reason to not get a simple jab. I'm sure if Muzzo had been hospitalized in a life-saving do-or-die situation when he took out a family there may have been a doc in emerg who would second guess himself or herself. It is human nature and you would think professionalism takes over but are you sure??? It's like when the food comes and you send it back, are you sure the chef or waitress/waiter doesn't spit on your food before it comes back? You never really know when human nature takes over.
 

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False comparison, their choices arent directly putting others in danger.

that's fear mongering. their vaccination status did not matter in the past 18 months

and are you willing to take 3 or more booster shots until at least 2024? Trudeau just ordered 30 to60 millions doses a year until 2024
 
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The difference is these folks are in your face and the same folks fighting lockdowns now are fighting vaccines when realistically there is absolutely no valid reason to not get a simple jab. I'm sure if Muzzo had been hospitalized in a life-saving do-or-die situation when he took out a family there may have been a doc in emerg who would second guess himself or herself. It is human nature and you would think professionalism takes over but are you sure??? It's like when the food comes and you send it back, are you sure the chef or waitress/waiter doesn't spit on your food before it comes back? You never really know when human nature takes over.
I cannot see how a doctor/nurse/emergency attendant could even tell if an anti-vaxxer was an in your face type vs. someone who personally felt it was their right or even someone who was unable to inform them they are an anti-vaxxer due to religious reasons.

Physicians are bound by a hippocratic oath and they do not think in terms of whether a person is worthy of being saved. I am not saying that all doctors follow that oath as there are many who do not and end up being barred from their practice due to things like sexual assault.

As per getting the simple jab - I agree 100% with you. If places start making people take daily Covid tests and wear PPE to perform their everyday job, then eventually they will tire of this process and get vaccinated.
 

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Can some explain to me why someone who chooses not to vaccinate is more of a threat to the health and safety of others the someone who is vaccinated.

Cause the science is saying that even though someone is vaccinated they can still contract covid and transmit it to others.
 

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I cannot see how a doctor/nurse/emergency attendant could even tell if an anti-vaxxer was an in your face type vs. someone who personally felt it was their right or even someone who was unable to inform them they are an anti-vaxxer due to religious reasons.
Some of these folks are complete nutbags and make it obvious.

Physicians are bound by a hippocratic oath and they do not think in terms of whether a person is worthy of being saved. I am not saying that all doctors follow that oath as there are many who do not and end up being barred from their practice due to things like sexual assault.
In theory, I don't disagree with you

As per getting the simple jab - I agree 100% with you. If places start making people take daily Covid tests and wear PPE to perform their everyday job, then eventually they will tire of this process and get vaccinated.
Yup, especially if they have to pay for the PPE and tests.
 
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squeezer

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Can some explain to me why someone who chooses not to vaccinate is more of a threat to the health and safety of others the someone who is vaccinated.

Cause the science is saying that even though someone is vaccinated they can still contract covid and transmit it to others.

Yes, there are breakthrough cases but many also are protected from contracting Covid. At the same time and more importantly it helps to not fill up the hospital thus preventing more lockdowns.

There is absolutely no reason to not be part of society and everyone doing their part to try and stop further lockdowns. A jab and a mask are really no big deal but lockdowns can ruin lives and at this point it falls all on selfish POS.
 

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Don't forget smokers, drug addicts and obese people.......No treatment for them as well right?
These folks do not endanger others by their action. Unless a smoker is breathing in your face, an obese person is sitting on your face or a drug addict is spiking your coffee with drugs you're safe from their self-inflicted life-altering vices.
 

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These folks do not endanger others by their action. Unless a smoker is breathing in your face, an obese person is sitting on your face or a drug addict is spiking your coffee with drugs you're safe from their self-inflicted life-altering vices.
If you live with a smoker and you're not smoker you are exposed. Second hand smoke can cause numerous health issues.
So drug addicts never drive cars? Never kill people in auto accidents?
 

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I knew this would happen as all 5 banks and now UHN will terminate any employee for vaccine refusal-are vaccine passports etc far behind? Also I got my shots although I really was wary of it(and I work in the health/medical tech field!!) and as it all ramps up -getting the shots might not be so easy as panic sets in and supplies might dry up as a deadline looms.The second shot made me weak and sick for a day and I fear the 3rd shot that's looming might be worse.
 
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