You claimed Trudeau had somehow screwed up the vaccine procurement, so I assumed you had some insight into how it might have been done better. I guess it was just conservative blathering like DOFO.
Trudeau is experimenting on his people — and the world is watching
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nice try your just another liberal who likes to tell people what they think and mean and make assumptions and claim they are fact
I made NO such claim that there was a faster way to get vaccines
admit your wrong and retract your FALSE accusation and outright lie
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Again.
Canada’s vaccination rate is eclipsing the U.S. Experts say the comparison is complicated - National | Globalnews.ca
While vaccine resistance is playing a role in the slowing U.S. rate, experts say comparing the two countries is not 'apples to apples' as they are in very different places.
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These are the actual facts about the different strains in general:
Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic illness was 57% after the first dose and 94% after the second, while it was 74% and 87% effective, respectively, at preventing hospitalization. Efficacy was 62% and 92%, respectively, at preventing severe illness and 72% at preventing death 14 to 20 days after the first dose.
Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic illness was 57% after the first dose and 94% after the second, while it was 74% and 87% effective, respectively, at preventing hospitalization. Efficacy was 62% and 92%, respectively, at preventing severe illness and 72% at preventing death 14 to 20 days after the first dose.
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if the feds had Done their job and secured enough vaccines we wouldn’t have a four month delay
So you are admitting you have no fucking clue how they could have done this ..right?
once again I never claimed what you say You’re obviously not man enough to admit you’re wrong good to know I won’t expect much from you moving forward
Another transparent partisan whining thread.
The access to vaccines is reasonable to question (as long as you actually listen to reasonable responses) but it's pretty well accepted that getting one dose to a lot of people is better than getting two doses to a small number of people.
And we know that a conservative government wouldn't have done any better (and based on observations of right wing leaders during the pandemic, would likely have been worse).
The access to vaccines is reasonable to question (as long as you actually listen to reasonable responses) but it's pretty well accepted that getting one dose to a lot of people is better than getting two doses to a small number of people.
And we know that a conservative government wouldn't have done any better (and based on observations of right wing leaders during the pandemic, would likely have been worse).
That said, there are a wide number of results in different studies and real world results of the mRNA vaccines. I've seen 1st dose number ranging from 50% to 96% effectiveness (and often the studies use slightly different benchmarks for what they consider effective).
For people like contact who don't like actual data, that makes worst case 1 dose as effective as the flu shot in some years.
p.s. Israel 'experimenting' on its people have had pretty damn good results.
yup , good luck getting the second dose before a variant gets you. Plus now we have to experiment with mixing different brands of vaccines. The author of the article is right. Lets hope that the US will dump a lot of vaccines here, in the meantime moderna has worked on boosters for the variants and they're at stage 3.
Weird that someone in a public forum would bring up a pattern of behaviour from another frequent poster who is active in the thread.
What reason did you have to bring me up? except you being an ass
Are you not active in this thread? Or did I break some kind of super-secret double probation rule about mentioning posters handles.
He's got nothing better to do, doesn't post himself so he tries to bait other posters.
I made no Comment about what you were talking about in this thread therefore no need to mention me
You said "if they had done their job". How in gods name do you make that statement when you cannot supply any details on how they may have done the job better? Without any ideas or better options, its just a statement of BULLSHIT.
Once again stop trying to assume what I said I did not state what you claim I did. you cant prove it because it was never said by me. You’re just not man enough to admit you wrong retract your false statement and apologize
STOP trying to tell people what they said or actually mean your the one making up bullshit
the national Canadian media also say the liberals screwed up and didn't do their job obtaining vaccines
I could link more but I know you will just ignore or make excuses so i wont waste my time
Where is the Liberal backbench on Trudeau’s vaccine failures? - Macleans.ca
How the Liberals are bungling the vaccine endgame - Macleans.ca
EDITORIAL: Trudeau fails on vaccines | Toronto Sun
Liberal failure means Canadians will wait longer for COVID-19 vaccine « Canada's NDP
Diane Francis: Liberal vaccine failures could be the biggest scandal in Canadian history | Financial Post
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Exactly.
They just repeat things they read from right wing columnists and can't even do basic research to see if what they say is even remotely close to the truth.
Canada has done fine in procuring vaccines for a country that doesn't produce them.
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