Like wearing a condom, wearing a mask is just common sense

[lenny2]

Strawman, blather, the usual. The seniors died because we didn't give a shit about them.

Nonsense.

That's what happened in Ontario, Quebec, NY State and the Swedes even admitted to as much.

Sweden told their people to isolate. Sadly they failed to mandate or even recommend masks. And they failed to mandate lockdowns. Hence the reasons for their failed disaster of an approach. But more recently they've been starting to wake up to, and admit, the truth.

In Ontario we didn't even bother to inspect most of them to this very day.

Inspect what? Get masks on people, keep them away from each other & tested, etc.

But, we closed the flower shops because that was the problem. We didn't overwhelm the "system", we let them suffer and die outside of the system, fashionably alone and in their own shit. We spent way over half a trillion dollars and those who needed it most got it last, if at all. Yeah, celebrate your what ifs. Pathetic.

Sure thing, it was a government conspiracy to murder the elderly in LTC homes ;

Getting N95 masks to the elderly in LTC homes may help.

Plenty has been done to protect LTC homes & more help is on the way. Also LTC home deaths are way - way - down since the early pandemic in nations all over the world. Are we doing something better than before? Who gets the credit for that?

"Thankfully we didn't have amateurs like you who didn't even know what "herd immunity" means running the show. How much worse off we'd be now! If the covidiots, hoax advocates, conspiracy nut jobs, C-19's existence deniers, or anti extreme safety measures (lockdowns, masks, etc) people were in charge we'd have over 10 million dead already instead of a small fraction of that.

"this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify their inability to learn from new information."

"Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."

 

[jcpro]

Nonsense.



Sweden told their people to isolate. Sadly they failed to mandate or even recommend masks. And they failed to mandate lockdowns. Hence the reasons for their failed disaster of an approach. But more recently they've been starting to wake up to, and admit, the truth.



Inspect what? Get masks on people, keep them away from each other & tested, etc.



Sure thing, it was a government conspiracy to murder the elderly in LTC homes ;

Getting N95 masks to the elderly in LTC homes may help.

Plenty has been done to protect LTC homes & more help is on the way. Also LTC home deaths are way - way - down since the early pandemic in nations all over the world. Are we doing something better than before? Who gets the credit for that?

"Thankfully we didn't have amateurs like you who didn't even know what "herd immunity" means running the show. How much worse off we'd be now! If the covidiots, hoax advocates, conspiracy nut jobs, C-19's existence deniers, or anti extreme safety measures (lockdowns, masks, etc) people were in charge we'd have over 10 million dead already instead of a small fraction of that.

"this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify their inability to learn from new information."

"Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."

What's with you and the "herd immunity"? How does it protect those who are at risk? How does that work in the senior's facility? The ones with the strong DNA make it?

 

[lenny2]

What's with you and the "herd immunity"? How does it protect those who are at risk? How does that work in the senior's facility? The ones with the strong DNA make it?

So you have no answer but this to my questions?

 

[jcpro]

What's with you and the "herd immunity"? How does it protect those who are at risk? How does that work in the senior's facility? The ones with the strong DNA make it?

LOL! Which question; that we are doing better in the LTC facilities? People are still dying and we may have killed off the most vulnerable already. We will have to wait for a "study" or better yet a Royal Commission to investigate the fuck ups that led to the tragedy among warehoused seniors.

 

[luvyeah]

 

[lenny2]

People are still dying and we may have killed off the most vulnerable already.

Is that a joke?

The vast majority haven't even been infected yet.

And those at "highest risk" - with any sense in them - have learned long ago to take extreme safety measures.

Many of them are, like, hiding under their beds 24/7 or in the attic somewhere & receiving meals via carrier pigeon ;

LOL.

 

[TeeJay]

For years i haven't been engaged in any kind of sex that would justify its use, even if i thought it were warranted in any case.

That is just sad lenny
Not even paid sex?
You are full blown incel now?

 

[lenny2]

That is just sad lenny
Not even paid sex?
You are full blown incel now?

No, but i'm quite satisfied with my sex life.

I've experienced enough paid sex for one lifetime. Nevertheless, i'm considering a long trip (or move) to Asia in 2021 or 2022.

 

[TeeJay]

No, but i'm quite satisfied with my sex life.

I've experienced enough paid sex for one lifetime. Nevertheless, i'm considering a long trip (or move) to Asia in 2021 or 2022.

Its cool
Self love protects not only against HIV but also Covid so you are 2 for 2

I REALLY wonder what you are doing here though.... is it all about stirring the pot then?

 

[lenny2]

Its cool
Self love protects not only against HIV but also Covid so you are 2 for 2

I REALLY wonder what you are doing here though.... is it all about stirring the pot then?

"The lips of the wise spread knowledge, but the hearts of fools are not upright." (Proverbs 15:7, NIV version, the Bible)
"The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouth of the fool spouts folly." (Proverbs 15:2)
"The lips of the wise spread knowledge, but not so the hearts of fools." (Proverbs 15:7)
"Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly." (Proverbs 13:16)
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in airing his opinions." (Proverbs 18:2)
"Even as the fool walks along the road, his sense is lacking, and he shows everyone that he is a fool." (Ecclesiastes 10:13)

 

[lenny2]

I actually think wearing masks have made things worse, and our current MUCH worse 2nd wave would prove that.

"...some communities in South Dakota have chosen a different path. The city of Brookings - fourth largest in the state - was the first to impose rules on masks inside businesses in September, along with other measures.

...Brookings County now has the lowest infection rate out of the five most populous South Dakota counties.

In September when the city of Brookings introduced tighter Covid restrictions, including mask-wearing measures, it had the highest.

Also, as infections rose across the state in October and November, the upturn in Brookings was lower than elsewhere.

We can't say that this was down to masks usage alone, but Bonny Specker, an epidemiologist at South Dakota State University, says along with measures such as limits on bars and restaurants, rules on face coverings have made a difference.

"South Dakota does not have a mask mandate and has one of the highest rates per capita of current hospitalisations and deaths in the country. When you compare Brookings County to other counties that have the 10 most populous cities, the data is consistent with the mask mandate being helpful."

...Governor Noem has pointed to other US states which have had mask mandates in place for some time but are still seeing cases rise.

Her spokesman, Ian Fury, has said: "Look at Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois - states that have had mask mandates for months but are still seeing rapidly increasing cases."

It's true that these states have experienced an increase, but none has seen as many cases per capita throughout the pandemic as South Dakota, nor such a dramatic peak in November.

After introducing mask mandates along with other Covid restrictions, Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin kept cases relatively low, but they have seen a spike as infections have risen across the US since the summer.

All three states have implemented tighter restrictions throughout the pandemic than South Dakota alongside mask mandates, and their recent surges have been later and less severe.

Since the start of the outbreak, South Dakota has had more than 9,700 total cases per 100,000 people, compared with around 7,600 in Wisconsin, and 6,300 in Illinois and Minnesota.

"Studies out of the US suggest requiring masks in public can help to reduce infection rates.

A study by the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released in late November looked at infection rates in Kansas from June to August.

In the summer, the state's governor introduced compulsory mask-wearing in public spaces but allowed local counties to opt out, and most chose to.

The study found that cases decreased in parts of Kansas which had brought in rules on wearing a mask, but cases continued to rise in those that chose not to.

It said these findings were "consistent with declines in Covid-19 cases observed in 15 states and the District of Columbia, which mandated masks, compared with states that did not have mask mandates."

Assistant professor Kate Grabowski, who reviews research papers at Johns Hopkins University, says: "All of the studies we have reviewed show that mask mandates are effective."

Covid-19: The mask-wearing US city that bucked the trend

Compulsory mask-wearing has been highly controversial in the US.

www.bbc.com

 

[lenny2]

" Masks are a key measure to suppress transmission and save lives. Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive 'Do it all! ' approach including physical distancing, avoiding crowded, closed and close-contact settings, good ventilation, cleaning hands, covering sneezes and coughs, and more."

 

[doggystyle99]

" Masks are a key measure to suppress transmission and save lives. Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive 'Do it all! ' approach including physical distancing, avoiding crowded, closed and close-contact settings, good ventilation, cleaning hands, covering sneezes and coughs, and more."

It's amazing there are still a small percentage of uneducated people who in over a year still have not understood these easy to understand and easy to follow guidelines. The very "Stable Genius" few COVIDIOTS.

 

[sp free]

So much bad information and scare mongering in this thread

The coof is going to attack your balls! Watch out!!!

 

[doggystyle99]

So much bad information and scare mongering in this thread

The coof is going to attack your balls! Watch out!!!

You and the gang should go to North York General maskless and start liking the hand rails, cmo'n you brave souls, put your money where your mouth is

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Yep, masks work. Thats why new infections are going up again.

You have to be a stable genius to believe that

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You and the gang should go to North York General maskless and start liking the hand rails, cmo'n you brave souls, put your money where your mouth is

I'm a janitor, and I use lots of smileys to make me look smarter

I'm not really that smart of course, I just pretend I am
And the more smilies I use, the smarter I think I am

 

[JuanGoodman]

What's with you and the "herd immunity"? How does it protect those who are at risk? How does that work in the senior's facility? The ones with the strong DNA make it?

Maybe we have not reached the herd immunity yet but for sure we have reached the herd stupidity.

 

[doggystyle99]

I'm a janitor, and I use lots of smileys to make me look smarter

I'm not really that smart of course, I just pretend I am
And the more smilies I use, the smarter I think I am

Philthy,
Oh no you called me a janitor just like all the other members who you have no comeback for, what am I gonna do
BTW try to pay attention perhaps you can get some facts right, I know it will be tough for you.

Keep complaining about that $80 speeding ticket you successful investor...........Penny stock investor

 

[basketcase]

What's with you and the "herd immunity"? How does it protect those who are at risk? How does that work in the senior's facility? The ones with the strong DNA make it?

Maybe you should look up what the term herd immunity means and how it works. It's a pretty simple concept.