Trump becomes President again on March 4

jcpro

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So, are you people full of cool aid, yet?
 

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It's exactly the same except for a few very tiny details like Caesar was a military leader with an army who appealed to his soldiers when the Senate decided to strip him of his command and imperium, prosecute him and send him into permanent exile. Yeah, the similarities are like looking into a mirror. LOL!!
 

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It's exactly the same except for a few very tiny details like Caesar was a military leader with an army who appealed to his soldiers when the Senate decided to strip him of his command and imperium, prosecute him and send him into permanent exile. Yeah, the similarities are like looking into a mirror. LOL!!
Don’t forget they named a salad after Caesar and haven’t named anything after Trump...not even a cheese ball.
 
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Crossing the Rubicon. Yes, he literally did cross the Rubicon.
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LOL can’t wait for the Qnon explanation. Maybe there was a secret coup and Trump is now controlling Biden through Vodoo magic; I’m sure that living in Florida is only a cover to be next to the witch doctor in the Everglades.o_O
 

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No.

Roman politics had been converted to a series of dictatorships a generation or two before Caesar. The transition point was the conversion of the Roman army from a self-defence force of conscripted, short-service citizens similar to the US or Canadian armies in WW2 to a smaller, volunteer army of long-service professionals who were essentially "clients" of their generals.

The initial generation featured two dudes called Marius and Sulla, each of whom was a big dick general and who had a huge army. They fought each other for decades and each guy who was temporarily on top ruled Rome.

After this, the Senate kinda got back control, as long as it was subservient to the next generation of power brokers - Pompey, Crassus and Caesar. When Crassus got killed with his army and Caesar got his own major army to conquer Gaul, that left only 2 dudes with huge armies - Pompey and Caesar. So they did the Marius and Sulla thing all over again.

And then the Senate sorta got control, after they murdered Caesar after Caesar killed pompey, as long as the Senate obeyed the new power brokers Octavian and Mark Anthony. And it all ends with Octavian killing MA and telling the Senate he was going to be emperor and kill them unless they agreed to give up their power to him.
 

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No.

Roman politics had been converted to a series of dictatorships a generation or two before Caesar. The transition point was the conversion of the Roman army from a self-defence force of conscripted, short-service citizens similar to the US or Canadian armies in WW2 to a smaller, volunteer army of long-service professionals who were essentially "clients" of their generals, similar to the US army today, that even has contract squadrons.
Fixed your post.
 

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Anything that was using his name have quickly changed the branding to save face. LMAO
You are likely speaking too soon. In the not too distant future some state or states will name a park or an office building or an airport or whatever. It is coming.
 

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You are likely speaking too soon. In the not too distant future some state or states will name a park or an office building or an airport or whatever. It is coming.
Maybe in North Korea.
 

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Roman politics had been converted to a series of dictatorships a generation or two before Caesar. The transition point was the conversion of the Roman army from a self-defence force of conscripted, short-service citizens similar to the US or Canadian armies in WW2 to a smaller, volunteer army of long-service professionals who were essentially "clients" of their generals.

The initial generation featured two dudes called Marius and Sulla, each of whom was a big dick general and who had a huge army. They fought each other for decades and each guy who was temporarily on top ruled Rome.
Wasn’t Cesar related (perhaps through marriage) to one of them? I think it was Sulla. But that was why Cesar had a tumultuous childhood. Apparently the family name was old, but they weren’t wealthy and had backed the wrong horse.

Initially starting out as a typical city state , Rome grew in power taking over their neighbours on the Italian peninsula. I believe they initially had Kings but got rid of them and established a Republic. It was after they got into the Punic Wars with the Carthage and beat them, did Rome’s Navy gain dominance over the Mediterranean and became a Super Power.

Was it the Marius Reforms that really got the Roman army going? Because prior to that, you had to be a free citizen and actually pay for your own armour, kit and supplies; so only citizens with land were able to join up. After the reforms, generals bore the expense of outfitting their armies, which then led to the rise of “big swinging dick” generals who raised armies and paid for them; thus the legions actually had more loyalty to these generals rather than the Roman republic.

The Roman Empire was a victim of its own success, apparently the number of slaves was so high, that labor was cheap and smaller farmers could not compete with the rich, and were bought out. Drifting into the cities, the citizenry has to be entertained by “bread and circuses” for their votes. LOL sounds like the US today actually.
 

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You are likely speaking too soon. In the not too distant future some state or states will name a park or an office building or an airport or whatever. It is coming.
That is very possible with numbskulls like DeSantis and Abbot running States.
 

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You are likely speaking too soon. In the not too distant future some state or states will name a park or an office building or an airport or whatever. It is coming.
Washington DC will be renamed to Donaldville DC. Washington state will be renamed Trumpstate, etc.

He will be known as the father of the country and the eagle on the seal will be replaced by a peach-coloured hair weave sitting atop a golf club and a soiled Dependz.
 

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Wasn’t Cesar related (perhaps through marriage) to one of them? I think it was Sulla. But that was why Cesar had a tumultuous childhood. Apparently the family name was old, but they weren’t wealthy and had backed the wrong horse.

Initially starting out as a typical city state , Rome grew in power taking over their neighbours on the Italian peninsula. I believe they initially had Kings but got rid of them and established a Republic. It was after they got into the Punic Wars with the Carthage and beat them, did Rome’s Navy gain dominance over the Mediterranean and became a Super Power.

Was it the Marius Reforms that really got the Roman army going? Because prior to that, you had to be a free citizen and actually pay for your own armour, kit and supplies; so only citizens with land were able to join up. After the reforms, generals bore the expense of outfitting their armies, which then led to the rise of “big swinging dick” generals who raised armies and paid for them; thus the legions actually had more loyalty to these generals rather than the Roman republic.

The Roman Empire was a victim of its own success, apparently the number of slaves was so high, that labor was cheap and smaller farmers could not compete with the rich, and were bought out. Drifting into the cities, the citizenry has to be entertained by “bread and circuses” for their votes. LOL sounds like the US today actually.
It was all very incestuous. In the late republic, you had to be of senatorial rank and from a senatorial aristocracy family to command an army or get other mega-power / mega-graft goodies. So factions competed to nominate their members for positions with clout. So your faction would try to get you an army command, so you could collect your army in Gaul or Syria and then come back with it to Rome and murder the senators in the other factions - who would nominate their guy to an equally powerful army command somewhere else with the same purpose in mind.

It's astonishing that Rome lasted so long. The Civil Wars never really stopped.
 
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It was all very incestuous. In the late republic, you had to be of senatorial rank and from a senatorial aristocracy family to command an army or get other mega-power / mega-graft goodies. So factions competed to nominate their members for positions with clout. So your faction would try to get you an army command, so you could collect your army in Gaul or Syria and then come back with it to Rome and murder the senators in the other factions - who would nominate their guy to an equally powerful army command somewhere else with the same purpose in mind.

It's astonishing that Rome lasted so long. The Civil Wars never really stopped.
Rome lasted a fucking long time.
 

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No.

Roman politics had been converted to a series of dictatorships a generation or two before Caesar. The transition point was the conversion of the Roman army from a self-defence force of conscripted, short-service citizens similar to the US or Canadian armies in WW2 to a smaller, volunteer army of long-service professionals who were essentially "clients" of their generals.

The initial generation featured two dudes called Marius and Sulla, each of whom was a big dick general and who had a huge army. They fought each other for decades and each guy who was temporarily on top ruled Rome.

After this, the Senate kinda got back control, as long as it was subservient to the next generation of power brokers - Pompey, Crassus and Caesar. When Crassus got killed with his army and Caesar got his own major army to conquer Gaul, that left only 2 dudes with huge armies - Pompey and Caesar. So they did the Marius and Sulla thing all over again.

And then the Senate sorta got control, after they murdered Caesar after Caesar killed pompey, as long as the Senate obeyed the new power brokers Octavian and Mark Anthony. And it all ends with Octavian killing MA and telling the Senate he was going to be emperor and kill them unless they agreed to give up their power to him.
While it is true that Marius and Sulla became competitors, it is also a fact that it happened at the very end of Marius' life. There was a significant age difference between the two and Marius did regain Rome's government in the end, but for a very short time before his death during his seventh(?) Consulship.
 
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