To screen or not to screen..

[lunaluxx]

( for any females looking for information on screening pls don’t answer or ask publicly)
So since working in the scene of Toronto I’ve notice we don’t do much screening here other then small black lists made available. It could be the sp’s just simply not doing it but often times when I first started in the city clients would seem soo shocked that I just asked for a full (Real) name, or a reference, anything... I couldn’t wrap my head around it, so my question is do you screen your clients? As a hobbyist are you against screening ?

 

[Valcazar]

I know a lot of hobbyists really hate screening.
I think it is a balance. You should screen exactly enough that it filters out as much bullshit as possible while not cutting into your client pool to the point you suffer.
Real name in screening is one I am not going to go along with.
References never bothered me but now that I've been out for a while I wouldn't have them.

I don't get the clients who get crazy mad that someone dared to ask them for screening. What an outrage!
I just know I won't be willing to put up with some screening processes and won't be seeing those providers.
It's nothing personal.

 

[contact]

your business your choice

Myself I wont do screening I never disclose personal information including a real phone number if the girl insists I move on, plenty of fish in the sea

 

[Submariner]

I know a lot of hobbyists really hate screening.
I think it is a balance. You should screen exactly enough that it filters out as much bullshit as possible while not cutting into your client pool to the point you suffer.
Real name in screening is one I am not going to go along with.
References never bothered me but now that I've been out for a while I wouldn't have them.

I don't get the clients who get crazy mad that someone dared to ask them for screening. What an outrage!
I just know I won't be willing to put up with some screening processes and won't be seeing those providers.
It's nothing personal.

What he said.

 

[canada-man]

( for any females looking for information on screening pls don’t answer or ask publicly)
So since working in the scene of Toronto I’ve notice we don’t do much screening here other then small black lists made available. It could be the sp’s just simply not doing it but often times when I first started in the city clients would seem soo shocked that I just asked for a full (Real) name, or a reference, anything... I couldn’t wrap my head around it, so my question is do you screen your clients? As a hobbyist are you against screening ?

i am for screening

 

[bazokajoe]

What I don't understand is some ladies want your real name, real phone number and some even want your work email,.but they aren't willing to do the same.
Yes, some nut bar men out their but some nut bar women too.

 

[contact]

What I don't understand is some ladies want your real name, real phone number and some even want your work email,.but they aren't willing to do the same.
Yes, some nut bar men out their but some nut bar women too.

if yo have a S.O Or a high profile job you simply cannot take any risks you need to be 100% discreet there is too much to lose in your personal life if you get caught/outed

 

[Jenesis]

It’s your business and therefore your choice.

For me, working from my personal home, I require a real phone number and SP reference. I also require one other type of verification. It can be an active board/social media account, second SP reference or work verification. They have a choice. This is what I feel comfortable with and works for me.

I do know that if I asked for less I would probably get more clients but that is not something I am interested in.

The clients willing to screen seem to be more in-line with my style, my desires, etc. So for me it is a win/win.

If I am touring in a hotel, I may relax my protocols depending on the situation with the person. But working out of a hotel is different then my personal private home.

 

[harryass]

yip, Im fine with screening as it is for SPs safety and security. The screening requirements should not be asking for personal information. General rule . if I dont ask you, pls dont ask me either when screening. Ok with giving refs if asked.

 

[luvyeah]

Screening is important, I totally understand that.
But there are some, if not many providers that will take the opportunity to abuse such personal information.
They look way to deep into clients. Net worth, properties; there is a multitude of things that can be figured out with a copy of government issues ID.
Also keep in mind, although they may claim to keep it confidential, just like guys talk here, many girls share this information between each other including between spas and agencies.

I think a reasonable compromise is a reference(s) and or a deposit.
With an e-transfer, if a client misbehaves their is a digital trace that police can investigate, and if set up properly can still obfuscate personal information.

The great thing is that nobody can force someone to compromise or accept screening they disagree with.

 

[rex_baner]

Would it be in the realm of possibilities that a SP screens finds out about a client's personal life and then threatens to expose teh client or his wife / business?

I do recall years ago on this site a SP exposed a johns personal information. It was taken down but... it got that far.

 

[bazokajoe]

Would it be in the realm of possibilities that a SP screens finds out about a client's personal life and then threatens to expose teh client or his wife / business?

I do recall years ago on this site a SP exposed a johns personal information. It was taken down but... it got that far.

It's very real.

 

[Dakotabrasco]

I think within reason, screening can be beneficial. However, disclosing any personal information (name, ID, place of work) or any other identifiable information should be off limits as this is meant to be a discreet transaction/encounter.
So where does that leave screening methods? Im not sure what the solution is, its tricky!

 

[tastingyou]

An interesting discussion.

In all my years of seeing SP's, almost exclusively Indy's , I have never ever been asked for a reference or anything else. I am not taking shots in the dark, I only see well reviewed girls who have been in the business for some time and who keep the same name and phone. I use my real phone number when texting, my texts are respectful and I sound [ and am ] intelligent and educated and well spoken. If you wanted my handle on here you can have that.

BUT THAT IS ALL YOU GET. If you cannot make a very accurate decision on whether to see me with that information you clearly have no idea of what you are doing when you are assessing people. Having said that nothing is totally foolproof. Anyone who provides work verification or work email or personal ID is clearly an idiot or has absolutely nothing to lose if outed - too much can go wrong.

Jenesis I would probably be interested but with your protocols we will never meet. I have no intention of asking my regulars for a reference.

 

[Valcazar]

^^ A good example of someone being clear and respectful of the boundaries on both sides.

First SP I saw in Canada outside of massage asked for two references. I wrote back explaining that I doubted an MP would give one and I was in a catch 22 of needing referenced to get started collecting references.
She asked if I was ok with a real ID and I said I wasn't.
We went back and forth chatting and she decided to take a chance on me. After that she happily acted as my reference. (She is long since retired.)

The thing is, if at any point either of us had decided the other person's line meant we weren't going to hook up, neither of us would have freaked out about it, because neither of us were assholes.
All you can do is be clear about your boundaries and respect the other person's. Sometimes that means you might exclude yourself from someone. That's fine. Don't be a jerk.

 

[luvyeah]

An interesting discussion.

In all my years of seeing SP's, almost exclusively Indy's , I have never ever been asked for a reference or anything else. I am not taking shots in the dark, I only see well reviewed girls who have been in the business for some time and who keep the same name and phone. I use my real phone number when texting, my texts are respectful and I sound [ and am ] intelligent and educated and well spoken. If you wanted my handle on here you can have that.

BUT THAT IS ALL YOU GET. If you cannot make a very accurate decision on whether to see me with that information you clearly have no idea of what you are doing when you are assessing people. Having said that nothing is totally foolproof. Anyone who provides work verification or work email or personal ID is clearly an idiot or has absolutely nothing to lose if outed - too much can go wrong.

Jenesis I would probably be interested but with your protocols we will never meet. I have no intention of asking my regulars for a reference.

It's actually quite surprising; I've talked to an SP and she shared some people happily provide ID and then act like an asshole in the session.
It's a fine line, because she doesn't wanna get the reputation of being that girl that outs all her clients, but that ID is also supposed to be used for their safety.

 

[fall]

It's actually quite surprising; I've talked to an SP and she shared some people happily provide ID and then act like an asshole in the session.

It is actually expected. There are more assholes among people who have nothing to lose if outed. So, by requiring IDs, SP will preclude more educated clientele from visiting her and end up with more bad clients.

 

[luvyeah]

It is actually expected. There are more assholes among people who have nothing to lose if outed. So, by requiring IDs, SP will preclude more educated clientele from visiting her and end up with more bad clients.

That is one way to look at it.

 

[Tomoreno]

Screening in nonsense... who needs it?

You really wanna know if you'll get a knight?

Put them through a gauntlet. If they survive - then they really wanna fuck ya.

 

[Jenesis]

If you cannot make a very accurate decision on whether to see me with that information you clearly have no idea of what you are doing when you are assessing people.


Jenesis I would probably be interested but with your protocols we will never meet. I have no intention of asking my regulars for a reference.

That is totally acceptable. I have no problem with someone not seeing me. It doesn’t hurt me feelings or change my opinion on my screening. You just move on to someone else. No biggie.

But to say I have no idea what I’m doing in assessing people is completely untrue and quite insulting actually.

I see clients in my personal private home. I want to make sure you are a real person, a safe person before bringing you here. So I want an SP reference. I don’t think that is out of line to ask considering where I am hosting you.

If you have a problem asking your regulars to give you a reference, no worries. We won’t see each other. But I’m not interested in seeing someone who insults me either so it is a win win.

I am not saying or implying you have something to malicious to hide because you can’t/won’t get a regular’s reference. I’m not making any assumptions leading to insults about you. I’m saying, have fun with your regulars and I hope you enjoy the new ladies you meet.

See the difference?

BTW - I have been doing this 2014. I have not had a single bad date and only two time wasters in all those years. I feel my screening WORKS FOR ME and shows me that I can assess people very well with my protocols, considering I don’t see many one-timers either. The majority become regulars.

I truly wish all the others good luck and happy hobbying. Just wish the same would be given to me in return.

PS - rereading this, it may come across as bitchy but really it is not. I swear LOL.