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Teens wanted for murder of police officer killed during traffic stop

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If the 17 yr old is tried as a youth he will likely do less then 2 years and those two years will involve all he can eat meals, meals which they have input in and they eat MUCH better then many Canadians do they get to order take out food, movies and video games all on the taxpayer dime

they are also here in Ontario ENTITLED to 6 meals a day and are entitled to eat whenever THEY want I'm betting its much the same there

if he is not a citizen then it will a sentence under two years so he isn't deported and the cultural excuses will flow because in his country the police are bad ect

here in Ontario they also keep "youth" in youth facilities until they are 21 so we have adult rapist and murderers with 12 year olds they should on their 18th bday ship them to adult
They should at least get raped and beaten up.
 

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If the 17 yr old is tried as a youth he will likely do less then 2 years and those two years will involve all he can eat meals, meals which they have input in and they eat MUCH better then many Canadians do they get to order take out food, movies and video games all on the taxpayer dime

they are also here in Ontario ENTITLED to 6 meals a day and are entitled to eat whenever THEY want I'm betting its much the same there

if he is not a citizen then it will a sentence under two years so he isn't deported and the cultural excuses will flow because in his country the police are bad ect

here in Ontario they also keep "youth" in youth facilities until they are 21 so we have adult rapist and murderers with 12 year olds they should on their 18th bday ship them to adult
Some things...
-if they are in a youth facility and they are allowed to order take out/delivered food, they pay for it themselves...taxpayer does not pick up the tab.
-here in Ontario, they are not entitled to 6 meals a day and can not eat whenever they want but at times set by the facility staff.
-An adult sentence can be imposed on a young person who is found guilty of an offence for which an adult can be sentenced to imprisonment for more than two years if the offence was committed after a young person is fourteen years of age
-if the person can be deported, the person will only be deported after criminal justice has been satisfied, homeland culture has no bearing
 

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Some things...
-if they are in a youth facility and they are allowed to order take out/delivered food, they pay for it themselves...taxpayer does not pick up the tab. yes and no they earn money by doing chores half assed in most cases and government vehicle is used to get food along with government paid employee
-here in Ontario, they are not entitled to 6 meals a day and can not eat whenever they want but at times set by the facility staff. used to be the case about 2 years ago ministry ordered that food is too be available at all times and youth may eat when they want 3 meals 3 snacks = 6 meals
-An adult sentence can be imposed on a young person who is found guilty of an offence for which an adult can be sentenced to imprisonment for more than two years if the offence was committed after a young person is fourteen years of age very rarely happens my comment was that "youth are kept in youth facility until they are 21 WHY? your an adult at 18
-if the person can be deported, the person will only be deported after criminal justice has been satisfied, homeland culture has no bearing True BUT the mere fact they will be deported if sentenced to over 2 years means judges consider that and use lesser sentences to try and prevent deportation homeland culture IS often used in defense of their actions
 

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"Some things...
-if they are in a youth facility and they are allowed to order take out/delivered food, they pay for it themselves...taxpayer does not pick up the tab. yes and no they earn money by doing chores half assed in most cases and government vehicle is used to get food along with government paid employee
-here in Ontario, they are not entitled to 6 meals a day and can not eat whenever they want but at times set by the facility staff. used to be the case about 2 years ago ministry ordered that food is too be available at all times and youth may eat when they want 3 meals 3 snacks = 6 meals
-An adult sentence can be imposed on a young person who is found guilty of an offence for which an adult can be sentenced to imprisonment for more than two years if the offence was committed after a young person is fourteen years of age very rarely happens my comment was that "youth are kept in youth facility until they are 21 WHY? your an adult at 18
-if the person can be deported, the person will only be deported after criminal justice has been satisfied, homeland culture has no bearing True BUT the mere fact they will be deported if sentenced to over 2 years means judges consider that and use lesser sentences to try and prevent deportation homeland culture IS often used in defense of their actions"

-in youth detention centres they do not earn money by doing chores, they earn privileges if they earn anything at all...your original point that taxpayers pay for take out is wrong
-take out is delivered in almost all cases, an employee does not leave the site to pick up a food order and there is no government vehicle involved
-food may be available at all times but to your original point, they are not entitled to 6 meals a day whenever they want
-youth over 18 can be transferred to an adult facility, it's not rare it happens all the time
-it is not fact they will be deported if sentence is over 2 years

You're just making stuff up...
 

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"Some things...
-if they are in a youth facility and they are allowed to order take out/delivered food, they pay for it themselves...taxpayer does not pick up the tab. yes and no they earn money by doing chores half assed in most cases and government vehicle is used to get food along with government paid employee
-here in Ontario, they are not entitled to 6 meals a day and can not eat whenever they want but at times set by the facility staff. used to be the case about 2 years ago ministry ordered that food is too be available at all times and youth may eat when they want 3 meals 3 snacks = 6 meals
-An adult sentence can be imposed on a young person who is found guilty of an offence for which an adult can be sentenced to imprisonment for more than two years if the offence was committed after a young person is fourteen years of age very rarely happens my comment was that "youth are kept in youth facility until they are 21 WHY? your an adult at 18
-if the person can be deported, the person will only be deported after criminal justice has been satisfied, homeland culture has no bearing True BUT the mere fact they will be deported if sentenced to over 2 years means judges consider that and use lesser sentences to try and prevent deportation homeland culture IS often used in defense of their actions"

-in youth detention centres they do not earn money by doing chores, they earn privileges if they earn anything at all...your original point that taxpayers pay for take out is wrong
-take out is delivered in almost all cases, an employee does not leave the site to pick up a food order and there is no government vehicle involved
-food may be available at all times but to your original point, they are not entitled to 6 meals a day whenever they want
-youth over 18 can be transferred to an adult facility, it's not rare it happens all the time
-it is not fact they will be deported if sentence is over 2 years

You're just making stuff up...
how long have you worked in the system?

privilege's they earn those by following the youth manual at the facility spelling out the rules

managers/supervisors get sent out to pick up food

youth sentenced as youth once 18 are NOT transferred to adult but held until 21 typically convicted of murders serious sex offences to be sentenced so long as youth unless being a real PITA

true not always deported if over two years but often enough that judge consider that Canada has a VERY shitty record of actually deporting those ordered
 
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About 15 years at a Youth Detention Centre...smart ass....12 as a parole officer and a few years as a substance abuse counsellor...

Which country club did you work at where taxpayers are paying for pizzas/etc and the staff is going to pick it up? Haha...nice try with the bullshit.
said managers/supervisors NOT staff staff needed to maintain ratio
 

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how long have you worked in the system?

privilege's they earn those by following the youth manual at the facility spelling out the rules

managers/supervisors get sent out to pick up food

youth sentenced as youth once 18 are NOT transferred to adult but held until 21 typically convicted of murders serious sex offences to be sentenced so long as youth unless being a real PITA

true not always deported if over two years but often enough that judge consider that Canada has a VERY shitty record of actually deporting those ordered
I've worked in the system total about 35 years...how long have you been a Federal Judge?

Privileges are set up by the individual facility and staff...there is no youth manual for privileges...you're making that up

Managers/supervisors don't get sent out to pick up food...you're making that up

Youth convicted of a serious crime under 18 MAY be transferred to an adult facility...you said NOT and that is not correct

You said it was a "mere fact" they will be deported if sentenced is over 2 years but now you're waffling on that too
 

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I've worked in the system total about 35 years...how long have you been a Federal Judge?

Privileges are set up by the individual facility and staff...there is no youth manual for privileges...you're making that up

Managers/supervisors don't get sent out to pick up food...you're making that up

Youth convicted of a serious crime under 18 MAY be transferred to an adult facility...you said NOT and that is not correct

You said it was a "mere fact" they will be deported if sentenced is over 2 years but now you're waffling on that too
your calling me a liar PROVE each and every point you dispute
 
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