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fall

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Since we are on Terb my comments are only in respect to those women who advertise here and are highly respected and well reviewed. If what you say is true, how come there are so few comments on this board confirming this for the women who advertise here? Yes there are scammers and bad apples in the industry but I would say that the majority of women who advertise here do not fall into that category. If I really want to see a women who requires a deposit, I will send it and if something goes wrong and I do not receive the money back after requesting it (as long as I did nothing wrong), I will report it here but from what I can see, this is not a common occurrence. But guys here make such s big thing about it over and over.
Because people who know about TERB are smart enough to give deposits only to well-established providers. A "naive" clients who just enter the industry or use SPs only occasionally and do not know about TERB, by looking at large number of SPs who ask for deposits may think it is a norm and provide it to a scammer.
 
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Also, why would someone be against me asking for a $100 amazon gift card (as an alternative if someone is uncomfortable with etransfer or paypal methods) as a show of good faith and acceptable method of deposit when there is no identifying information there, is beyond me.
Trust issue. Someone who knows you already or believe in your goodwill through other people comments should have no problem with it. Someone who is new to lobbying will have a problem. So, basically, same reason why you would accept a booking from someone with good reputation without deposit but may ask for as deposit and/or references from an unknown client. Luck of information leads to trust issue from both sides. From monetary perspective, client risks cash while SP risks lost potential income. From safety perspective, SP risks physical safety while client risks potential blackmail. Solution? Brothels, or, as the second-best, agencies.
 
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Because people who know about TERB are smart enough to give deposits only to well-established providers. A "naive" clients who just enter the industry or use SPs only occasionally and do not know about TERB, by looking at large number of SPs who ask for deposits may think it is a norm and provide it to a scammer.
So exactly how does a thread like this on Terb help those who do not know about Terb?
 
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I'm thinking of starting an escrow company for escorts and clients to solve this problem.
I'll call it EscortCrow or something like that
 

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Its all about anonymity , not judgement on what Sp’s should or shouldn’t do, its not our place to dicTate how they run their business, i was just raising an issue that seems to gathering speed and wondered if any one had a satisfactory solutions that would be acceptable to both parties.
 

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Its all about anonymity , not judgement on what Sp’s should or shouldn’t do, its not our place to dicTate how they run their business, i was just raising an issue that seems to gathering speed and wondered if any one had a satisfactory solutions that would be acceptable to both parties.
There's no such thing as anonymity anymore. You are being photographed just about everywhere you go. There's no avoiding that. You can make yourself somewhat more anonymous by closing your social media accounts and limiting what you share. Just realize that whatever you share is there forever no matter how you setup your security. If it's online someone can gain access to it. It's just a matter of time and effort.

The best answer to the screening question is to ask the girl directly. One solution is not going to work for everyone. Just tell her that you're uncomfortable with e-transfer, photo ID, etc. and come up with alternatives. Some might be receptive to those ideas and some might not. All you can do is ask and then decide. Florence has a perfectly acceptable system where she accepts gift cards in lieu of an e-transfer.

I am sure you can come many other ideas if you had to. As long as you're doing it in good faith with the girl then there should't be any problems.

If this is too much effort then there are plenty of agency or indies that don't require screening info.
 

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Let me be perfectly clear , everyone is entitled to manage their process in the best way that suits them and makes them comfortable. In that vain under no circumstances do I wish to reveal my true identity, by sending a picture , linkedin, work email or a deposit from my email. I have historically always used previous friends that would act as references, in the USA TER had a category called whitelist where former friends could vouch for you. When texting was required a burner phone, still not completely safe if found seemed to suffice but I must say I am truly stumped and could use some help and advice. I prefer indy’s but not exclusively and if this trend continues with no solution on my part my choices will become fewer and fewer.

Again to be clear, this not a judgement on the practice but a cry for help?
Fuck that, I will never send a deposit until the fakes are fettered out of the system, I have invested $ 300,000.00 in twenty years on the ladies as a minimum estimate probably closer to half a million. I will bail the second a deposit becomes mandatory. These ladies are cutting their own throats.

If this is the future I'm out!

Lj
 

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Its all about anonymity , not judgement on what Sp’s should or shouldn’t do, its not our place to dicTate how they run their business, i was just raising an issue that seems to gathering speed and wondered if any one had a satisfactory solutions that would be acceptable to both parties.
OP - I will say that for you, it would have probably helped if you actually replied to or allowed the ladies you message to reply back, especially here on TERB.

Sorry guys but a known time waster complaining about deposit was just too funny to pass up.

I wonder how many indies are openly asking for deposits or how many are asking him specifically based on his track record with time wasting contact.

I get this is actually a legit “issue” with some. If you can call it that considering the amount of indies and agencies that don’t require deposits. However, coming from a time waster, it is a little laughable.
 
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Requring a deposit is more reasonable than demanding
clients to disclose their personal ID. I'd be happy to pay
a fraction of the cost of an 1hr session in advance to an
incall advertised on TERB so long as my own privacy is
respected.
 

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Fuck that, I will never send a deposit until the fakes are fettered out of the system, I have invested $ 300,000.00 in twenty years on the ladies as a minimum estimate probably closer to half a million. I will bail the second a deposit becomes mandatory. These ladies are cutting their own throats.

If this is the future I'm out!

Lj
Then don't send a deposit. No one's forcing you to pay it or continue being a client. If you've really spent $500K on escorts then you can pay just about anyone to have sex with you. The ladies here certainly won't be missing you.
 

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If they have that requirement it’s on to the next for me, I’ve never cancelled an appointment on an SP last minute and don’t intend to ever, been late to one appointment ever due to a snow storm. When I book an appointment I make sure I can make it.
People feel comfortable with the requirement go ahead see the SP’s, it works perfect as there is less demand for her and more free time slots for others to book, but I in no way am a bad customer or fake booking as some keep assuming, do not tell me it’s normal way to operate here because it certainly is not.

Also if one doesn't like their requirement can just move on to the next, luckily GTA has so many reputable and reliable Indy and agency SP's that don't require it.

I remember the first SP to advertise it was Alanna Johnson, one reason given then was it’s for safety reasons but it has nothing to do with safety.
 
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E-transfer will reveal your real name/civilian e-mail, so you have to be ok with that...
You can send an etransfer via phone number (so as NOT to reveal email etc)
Probably safer

But on topic its insanity to even screen much less pay in advance
Guys be too desperate lol
 
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If they have that requirement it’s on to the next for me, I’ve never cancelled an appointment on an SP last minute and don’t intend to ever, been late to one appointment ever due to a snow storm. When I book an appointment I make sure I can make it.
People feel comfortable with the requirement go ahead see the SP’s, it works perfect as there is less demand for her and more free time slots for others to book, but I in no way am a bad customer or fake booking as some keep assuming, do not tell me it’s normal way to operate here because it certainly is not.

Also if one doesn't like their requirement can just move on to the next, luckily GTA has so many reputable and reliable Indy and agency SP's that don't require it.

I remember the first SP to advertise it was Alanna Johnson, one reason given then was it’s for safety reasons but it has nothing to do with safety.
Three things.

1. Not everyone is like you. Many guys cancel just like many girls flake. It is a daily occurrence on both sides. I have only been canceled on twice in my 6 years. Screening has helped me with keeping that number so low.

2. I do not like this notion that because a guy is not willing to pay a deposit, it is labled as some bad client. I don’t agree with that at all and wish some ladies would stop trying to peddle that crap to boost what they are requiring. I also don’t agree that any lady asking for a deposit is a scam, or a diva and I wish guys would stop labelling escorts in the same manner. Labelling helps no one.

3. Screening and deposit are a normal way for many to operate. You may not like it and will move on which is great but to say it is not a normal way to operate is wrong. Not only is it a norm in this business, it is a norm in a lot of industries.
 

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3. Screening and deposit are a normal way for many to operate. You may not like it and will move on which is great but to say it is not a normal way to operate is wrong. Not only is it a norm in this business, it is a norm in a lot of industries.
Is it a norm in a lot of service industries for service providers to
have to hide their ID from clients?
 
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Then don't send a deposit. No one's forcing you to pay it or continue being a client. If you've really spent $500K on escorts then you can pay just about anyone to have sex with you. The ladies here certainly won't be missing you.
They won't miss you either, just your money, give your head a shake.

LJ
Then don't send a deposit. No one's forcing you to pay it or continue being a client. If you've really spent $500K on escorts then you can pay just about anyone to have sex with you. The ladies here certainly won't be missing you.
Then don't send a deposit. No one's forcing you to pay it or continue being a client. If you've really spent $500K on escorts then you can pay just about anyone to have sex with you. The ladies here certainly won't be missing you.
Clearly I hit a nerve.

LJ
 

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Deposits ? Never have never will send one. What from a logical business and legal sense does it make to give money to someone you don't know, leaving you no recourse to recover it should things take a turn for the worst.

ID requirement? No to this one too. You show me yours I'll show you mine. I am quite sure that is never going to happen. While I can appreciate providers need a feel for safety, asking me for ID is me putting way to much trust in someone I don't know.
This business is for the most part built on anonymity and until recently been in the shadowy fringes of society.
I also realize that being "off the grid" is impossible in today's technological world but it still doesn't mean I want myself easily and openly found out or accessible as I am sure SP's feel the same way, hence the use of their own fictitious identities.

So stalemate equals agency for me.
 

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This is a very valid concern on both sides which I don't think there is a perfect solution for - just based on what the provider is comfortable with based on her personal experiences and what the client is comfortable with based on their personal experiences. I think reviews and reputation are paramount when deciding whether to go with a booking - regardless of deposits or information required. When you look at businesses outside of this industry who do require deposits and personally identifying information - they are businesses that just don't have time to waste on time wasting patrons anymore because they are not hurting for business. Hotels, spas, service providers who book well in advance for their services, restaurants with a reputation and can demand a deposit or credit card information. I think a lot of providers want to be recognized as a legitimate business and enforce regulations based on that. However, there is a real concern for privacy and legal repercussions to worry about on the client side, so it makes for a precarious position.

I can only speak for myself when I say.. why would a regular patron of mine not be cool with providing me a deposit if he already knows I am reliable and has seen me before? That pisses me off. Also, why would someone be against me asking for a $100 amazon gift card (as an alternative if someone is uncomfortable with etransfer or paypal methods) as a show of good faith and acceptable method of deposit when there is no identifying information there, is beyond me.
Sounds very reasonable, and I would agree, well established, well reviewed ladies should be trustworthy.


Except............ my experience is unfortunate.

A lady who advertises here regularly (daily), has many reviews (YMMV considered), took a full fee e-transfer, then cancelled, refused to return the fee by the same e-transfer. Just in case you think she didn't know me or I became rude, she reminded me before I sent the e-transfer that she remembered me (fondly ?) and she had the record because I had seen her twice over 2 or 3 years.

She finally agreed to meet me, 45 mins away from the incall and where I live, to pick up cash.

I will NEVER prepay.
 
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Is it a norm in a lot of service industries for service providers to
have to hide their ID from clients?
I don’t hide who I am from my clients. I don’t ask for deposits or ID.

Is it normal to have people to your house when you don’t know their name and actual phone number? Because that is something I do ask for since that is where I host my incalls. Quid pro quo in my opinion. There is enough shared info between the parties that both are equally aware of the other. I see nothing wrong with that.
 
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I don’t hide who I am from my clients.

Is it normal to have people to your house when you don’t know their name and actually phone number?
If you're offering $300 - $500 an hour to come over you can bring your friends and I'll put out the chips?
 
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