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squeezer

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It seems to me like Trump and Dr. Oz must have an interest in the malaria drug.

I can have my own conspiracy theories as well if I want to.
 

K Douglas

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This is Canada you can't just go to your doctor and ask for any prescription drug. They need to properly diagnose you first.
 

legmann

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Do I need a prescription?

What do I need to tell my doctor if I want to get some?
Why on earth would you want a drug (presumably to treat Covid-19) that not a single doctor or public health agency has approved for use or otherwise recommended?
 

WyattEarp

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Why on earth would you want a drug (presumably to treat Covid-19) that not a single doctor or public health agency has approved for use or otherwise recommended?
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Why would you think that? From I understand, several doctors around the world fighting the virus have said the drug seems to help people fight the virus.
 

WyattEarp

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It seems to me like Trump and Dr. Oz must have an interest in the malaria drug.
Isn't it a cheap generic made by several companies around the world?
 

MissCroft

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I was thinking about drinking tonic water but t no longer has (if any) quinine in it. Real tonic water with quinine was banned years ago.
 

legmann

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From I understand, several doctors around the world fighting the virus have said the drug seems to help people fight the virus.
Anecdotal evidence is just that: not proof.

I think you are missing the bigger point: a maniac in the US inexplicably touts unproven 'treatments' whose efficacy is nowhere near demonstrated, and idiots tend to take it as truth.
 
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WyattEarp

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Anecdotal evidence is just that: not proof.

I think you are missing the bigger point: a maniac in the US inexplicably touts unproven 'treatments' whose efficacy is nowhere near demonstrated, and idiots tend to take it as truth.
That wasn't really the point of our exchange. You explicitly said that not a single doctor has recommended the drug.

I really don't give a shit what Trump thinks about the drug, what some media talking head thinks or what you think (nothing personal I don't know you). If the drug is relatively safe (and that seems true), it should be a decision between you and your doctor.

Government health bureaucracies have generally not performed well around the world with the exception of some Asian countries and small countries. We have had our health bureaucracy telling people for two months that masks don't help.
 

K Douglas

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Anecdotal evidence is just that: not proof.

I think you are missing the bigger point: a maniac in the US inexplicably touts unproven 'treatments' whose efficacy is nowhere near demonstrated, and idiots tend to take it as truth.
It's a bit more than just anecdotal. And certainly no one, including Trump, has said its a miracle cure. But right now its one of the most effective treatments for those suffering serious respiratory symptoms.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fren...r-treatment-cured-100-of-coronavirus-patients

https://bgr.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-treatment-anti-malaria-drug-trial-in-france-shows-promise/
 

mandrill

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That wasn't really the point of our exchange. You explicitly said that not a single doctor has recommended the drug.

I really don't give a shit what Trump thinks about the drug, what some media talking head thinks or what you think (nothing personal I don't know you). If the drug is relatively safe (and that seems true), it should be a decision between you and your doctor.

Government health bureaucracies have generally not performed well around the world with the exception of some Asian countries and small countries. We have had our health bureaucracy telling people for two months that masks don't help.

It's not "safe". It's a prescription medication with severe side effects including "coronary incidents" that no reputable source has indicated is suitable for treating COVID-19.

Why anyone in their right mind would want it, unless it has already been prescribed by a qualified physician for an appropriate medical condition is beyond me to fathom.
 

mandrill

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It's a bit more than just anecdotal. And certainly no one, including Trump, has said its a miracle cure. But right now its one of the most effective treatments for those suffering serious respiratory symptoms.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fren...r-treatment-cured-100-of-coronavirus-patients

https://bgr.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-treatment-anti-malaria-drug-trial-in-france-shows-promise/

I didn't realize that "The Daily Wire" was a medical expert or anything other than a source of right wing internet bullshit....
 

danmand

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I was thinking about drinking tonic water but t no longer has (if any) quinine in it. Real tonic water with quinine was banned years ago.
Not true. You can still get real tonic water, but it contains only a little quinine (20 mg), where a medical dosis is more like 300 mg.
 

jcpro

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There is absolutely zero evidence that hydroxy works by itself. There is some unofficial news that it works as a part of a cocktail in the conjunction with zinc. Much of it depends on the subjects themselves, their underlying conditions and the progression stage of the virus. Once the patient progresses to the ventilator stage the chance of survival drops to about 15%(30% according to the Chinese figures, but take them for what they are). At that point I would ask for the enriched uranium or holy water-whichever was closer. Thousands of doctors are prescribing the cocktail at the patients' insistence, but any meaningful data is months away, too late to matter. There are some other treatments and other drugs coming online, but again, all in the experimental stages. A vaccine is at least 14 months away, btw.
 

The Oracle

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Do I need a prescription?

What do I need to tell my doctor if I want to get some?
Wait until the clinical trials are done on this before considering getting a prescription for this or purchasing this from other sources.

The anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that when combined with azithromycin it has the ability to slow the growth of the virus in some people.

The good news is that there is a rush to find out the efficacy of these compounds on the corona virus. So it looks like we will know sooner more than later.

My worry is that the media will try to politicise this as they continue their electioneering assault on Trump. Thus derailing a combination of drugs that could be beneficial
 
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K Douglas

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It's not "safe". It's a prescription medication with severe side effects including "coronary incidents" that no reputable source has indicated is suitable for treating COVID-19.

Why anyone in their right mind would want it, unless it has already been prescribed by a qualified physician for an appropriate medical condition is beyond me to fathom.
It is a very safe drug it's been around since the 1950's. The coronary incidents you suggest only happened in a few cases of long term use (>10 years). No drug is 100% side effect free.
 

K Douglas

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I didn't realize that "The Daily Wire" was a medical expert or anything other than a source of right wing internet bullshit....
What's bullshit is your automatically dismissing anything from a source you don't like. It's not an opinion piece.
 
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