We're establishing a pattern of fraud used by the guy you think honestly speaks for the common man.
Keep up, Phil.
(and at least we've taken this off topic from the usual Muslim bashing)
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Keep up, Phil.
(and at least we've taken this off topic from the usual Muslim bashing)
Okay, so if Trump is guilty of fraud or tax evasion, when are the criminal charges coming??
Can you give us a timeline??
Trump U was settled out of court.
Trump Foundation is in process.
Fred Trump's tax dodges may be too old, but they may still get dealt with.
Weisselberg is now talking to Mueller as well.
As is Cohen.
I know you're in a rush, but the law takes time.
Sure, Phil.
We both know the IRS doesn't have the time and staff to audit everything. The Trumps got a reputable real estate valuation firm to write fraudulent valuations that the IRS never checked. Now they've all been outed.
Maybe you should take to Manafort and Flynn about the Russia investigation.
Audits that are still not settled, over and above the audits, lawsuits (something over 4000 of those) and charges he's fought and lost, or still fighting years on, never mind the ones he's pleaded bankruptcy to avoid. You set a very low standard for yourself, if 'just getting away with it' is all you ask of the Leaders whose praises you bleat.
Whatever you call it, that is far from a record of innocence, and possibly the worst defence you could have picked.
You mean to tell me the audits form 35 years ago are still not settled??!!! :spit:
Yeah, they're called "appraisers" oagre. I'm surprised someone who claims to be a lawyer doesnt know the correct terminology:
https://www.manhattanrealestateappraisal.com/
And guess what, there's nothing illegal about that. An appraiser can overvalue my house by $100K, its then up to the IRS to challenge that appraisal.
If the IRS goes along with that appraisal they cannot then overturn it 35 years later.
But good luck with all that :biggrin1:
No, you silly boy, the ongoing ones. When you post about his "…audits over the years", that includes all of them. If you only meant 'some of his audits came out OK' that's what you should have said.
And just to be completely clear: When the IRS audits, and and you finally stop arguing and pay up, that settles the audit and you get to walk away. But unless they walk away, it also means you didn't do your taxes as the law says, and wouldn't have without cops standing over you.
If only law, including tax law, was always that clear. More often, there is a disagreement between the IRS/CRA and the taxpayer about how the law should be interpreted that is settled by payment of some of the claimed under payment. Your view is extremely authoritarian.
I thought the NY Times piece was about Trump allegedly committing fraud with his father. His father passed away in 1999, so the audits the NYT is talking about must have been almost 20 years old and not ongoing ones. Unless you think it takes the IRS 20 years to do an audit??
Just like any two parties settling out of court rather than in.
Where the law is on your side, you may prevail, where it's on the other, they may. But you're only talking because the law applies, and the other side says you got it wrong. And unless they give up and now agree with you, you did. Even if you only — in spite of all the advice from your highly-paid tax lawyers, and multiple expert accounting firms — 'misunderstood'.
Your view mystifies me: Can you really imagine any taxes might be collected without the full authority of the law?
I already explained my reply to your post: Are you trying to say now, that you didn't mean what you said above, and just wanted to mention Donny's ancient wrongdoings, but ignore any other tax audits "…over the years" since?
As long as you aren't claiming there haven't been any more audits, or that he's changed his ways since his murky doings back then, fine with me.
No, my post still stands. Trump has been audited dozens of times now since the 1980's and the IRS has found no wrongdoing.
So where's the evidence for fraud or tax evasion?? Can you post it for us please??
Your description of the dynamic is incorrect. You're only talking because the IRS/CRA ASSERTS that the law applies, and has the authority to force you to engage in a lengthy and costly process to get them to back off. The law may well NOT apply.
And yes, the IRS/CRA will collect taxes based on THEIR VIEW of the law until a higher authority (the courts, usually) tell them they are wrong. An authoritarian outlook would hold that their views ARE the law. The courts say otherwise.
Why ask me? Have I accused him of either?
On the other hand, what's your basis for saying the "IRS has found no wrongdoing"? I'd be very surprised if you know for a fact their audits agreed with the original tax returns he filed. That's the only way your overstatement can be true.
But thanks for at last clearing up that we aren't solely discussing the possibly fraudulent tax returns of a bygone year, after all.
Because if they had Trump wouldve been arrested and charged with tax evasion already
Sure they can, Mr Expert. If the valuations - and they're not "appraisals" - are fraudulent.
Guess someone didn't go to law school, huh?
Phil, when RevCan comes to your office and audits your business, do you really tell them that they can't do it because you already filed the tax return and got back a Notice of Assessment?.... No.
RevCan has a certain time period beyond which they cannot audit you. But if there is fraud, they can go back as far as they want.
I'm sure the same thing is true is the USA.
There's a statute of limitations in NY State, the only thing the IRS could get him for monetary penalties
https://www.democratandchronicle.co...18/10/03/new-york-trump-tax-fraud/1509204002/
And of course thats assuming Trump is even guilty.
No way will he be impeached over this.
You were saying??!! :fish:
