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Masterpiece Cakeshop owner sues after refusing to make a birthday cake for a trans woman


Just two months after his narrow victory at the Supreme Court, Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, is back in the news for once again discriminating against an LGBTQ customer. This time, he refused to sell a birthday cake to a transgender person.

Phillips, still represented by the anti-LGBTQ hate group Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), has come out swinging. He filed a federal lawsuit Tuesday night against officials in the Colorado Civil Rights Commission (CCRC) and other state officials, arguing that the department “harbors hostility” against him and the discrimination complaint should be dismissed. Essentially, ADF believes the Supreme Court’s decision this summer immunizes Phillips from any future charges of discrimination.

The facts of the case are simple. Autumn Scardina, a transgender attorney, called Masterpiece Cakeshop asking for a birthday cake. She mentioned that her birthday coincides with the anniversary of coming out as transgender, so she was hoping for a design that was pink on the inside and blue on the outside to commemorate that. Masterpiece Cakeshop refused to make the cake on the grounds that it doesn’t make cakes celebrating gender transitions.

Scardina filed a complaint with the CCRC, alleging that she had suffered discrimination on account of her sex and gender identity. “The woman on the phone,” she wrote, “did not object to my request for a birthday cake until I told her I was celebrating my transition from male to female. I believe that other people who request birthday cakes get to select the color and theme of the cake.”

Phillips challenged the complaint, responding that he will not support a message that “promote the idea that a person’s sex is anything other than an immutable God-given biological reality.” In late June, however, the CCRC issued a probable cause determination that Phillips had discriminated against Scardina in violation of state laws, which prohibit discrimination on account of transgender status. In its determination, the CCRC even cited the Supreme Court’s Masterpiece Cakeshop opinion, noting that it upheld the right of states to protect LGBTQ people from discrimination in public accommodations.

It’s easy to see how discriminatory Phillips’ actions are. On his website, he advertises birthday cakes, and even showcases a variety of color options and custom designs available for them. This includes, as an example, a cake shaped like Eeyore the donkey, which is blue with pink ears. While the site’s photo gallery never shows the interior of any cake, food coloring is an easy and common addition, and he also advertises a variety of cake flavors, including cherry, and fillings, including raspberry — both of which would naturally be pink.

It’s not unrealistic to think that a customer might request a cake that includes the colors pink and blue in the same fashion as Scardina requested. Indeed, if she had not revealed that the design was related to her identity — or if she had given a different reason, like that pink and blue were her favorite colors — there’s no reason to believe Masterpiece Cakeshop wouldn’t have filled the order. If a customer can buy a product, but only if they hide their identity, then the business is clearly discriminating on the basis of that identity.

It’s the same reason that Phillips’ original sin of refusing to sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple was also clear discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Charlie Craig and David Mullins had been perusing Phillips’ catalogue of wedding cakes in his shop when he first started talking to them. They didn’t even have the opportunity to discuss the design of any possible cake, because Phillips refused to sell them a wedding cake outright — regardless of the design. Phillips sold wedding cakes, just not to same-sex couples, so he was clearly discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation.

Sorry, Jack Phillips, but it’s still illegal for you to refuse same-sex couples wedding cakes

But in ADF’s new countersuit, they still insist that Phillips “serves all people — individuals of all races, faiths, sexual orientations, and gender identities — and will design and create custom cakes for anyone,” so long as they don’t “express messages or celebrate events contrary to his religious beliefs.” Though birthdays clearly do not violate his religious beliefs, ADF nevertheless asserts that Phillips’ decisions are based on what the cake will celebrate, not who the customer is.

Even less convincingly, the suit claims, “Phillips has never created a cake like that before.” This requires believing that in the 25 years he has operated his shop, he has never made a cake that is pink on the inside and blue on the outside. The Masterpiece Cakeshop website shows many cake designs with blue exteriors, but it’s unknown if any of them were cherry, contained raspberry filling, or were otherwise artificially colored.

The contention, of course, is that because Scardina wanted a cake that celebrated her transition, it was somehow a different kind of cake than someone else’s birthday cake shaped like a Barbie, a racecar, or a coffin mourning the end of someone’s thirties. As Phillips told the Heritage Foundation, “A gender-transition cake is not something I’ve ever made, and it’s not an event I could celebrate.”

The lawsuit likewise explains that Phillips cannot in good conscience produce a cake that communicates the ideas “that sex can be changed, that sex can be chosen, and that sex is determined by perceptions or feelings” — none of which accurately describes transgender people. ADF had similarly argued that a cake for a same-sex couple’s wedding was somehow different than a wedding cake for a different-sex couple, even if the cake had exactly the same design or no design at all.

ADF also contends that Scardina is an LGBTQ advocate and may have been trolling Phillips, suggesting that she had called at other times with frivolous requests. This, however, is irrelevant in determining the legality of his actions. Indeed, many government agencies use testing to assess whether nondiscrimination laws are being followed.

The crux of the argument, however, is that ADF believes that “Colorado rigs the system against people of faith like Phillips.” In fact, the suit alleges that Phillips is entitled to financial damages “for the humiliation, emotional distress, inconvenience, and reputational damage” he has experienced because of the CCRC’s rulings against him.

In reality, Colorado’s nondiscrimination law is not “rigged” against Phillips — at least not any more than a law against stealing is “rigged” against thieves. He just doesn’t seem to want to follow it.


Looks like this case will go to the Supreme Court and give them a chance to clarify and correct their previously flawed ruling.

https://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/1030046612515635201?s=21

 

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Seems the LGBT community in Colorado are poor losers and a vindictive lot. Clearly, they intend to keep going back to this business until they can find something else to sue him over/complain about.

Here's some helpful advice for that community - learn to bake. Who knows? Maybe there is money to be made baking gay themed cakes? A lot better plan than the inevitable legal costs they are going to pay, and potential abuse of process damages, when they lose again, for the exact same reasons.
 

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Right.

A Transgender ATTORNEY just happened to call the same bakery that caused a firestorm in the LBTQ community and specifically orders a cake with a theme like that.

Is the Baker stupid for turning down business? Absolutely. Especially the community that will pay big for over the top confections.

But this is a set up and imo trying for another bite at the Apple.

The lawyers will get rich. And the SCOTUS will rule for the Baker again.
 

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Looks like this case will go to the Supreme Court and give them a chance to clarify and correct their previously flawed ruling.
Or strengthen it.

Further readily available information shows this is part of what certainly seems to be a campaign against this cake designer. I find it hard to believe that there aren't other cake designers in Colorado who would have no scruples designing a sex change cake.
 

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Think Progress appears to have difficulties grasping the First Amendment and Freedom of Religion.

What an infantile statement in the article that a first amendment argument against the interpretation of nondiscrimination espoused by the State of Colorado is the same as thieves complaining about the Colorado Criminal code.
 

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Or strengthen it.

Further readily available information shows this is part of what certainly seems to be a campaign against this cake designer. I find it hard to believe that there aren't other cake designers in Colorado who would have no scruples designing a sex change cake.
Of course it’s targeted at the baker. It is brilliant legal/political activism!

Fuck this baker...They need to make an example of this bigoted asshole. They also want to get this case back in front of the Supreme Court to force a ruling on the constitutionality of these bigoted “Freedom of Religion” laws. The baker is the perfect guy to do this with.

Brilliant!
 

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Of course it’s targeted at the baker. It is brilliant legal/political activism!

Fuck this baker...They need to make an example of this bigoted asshole.
Because after all no one should be allowed to have religious scruples especially in a bespoke business. :mad:

You will recall that his shop is perfectly happy to sell pre-decorated pastries to anyone who wishes to purchase them.

Peculiar as well that no one in Colorado Government seems to make a connection between this and that specific performance is not a remedy available via injunctive relief.
 

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The baker is the perfect guy to do this with.
You mean "perfect" because he's a small businessman with limited resources who was nearly bankrupted by the last legal battle, right?

What fine advocates to protect the oppressed of our society! LOL! Let's find a little guy we can throw our collective resources at (along with the power of state human rights tribunal) and then surely justice will prevail, and we'll all be a little more free!

What a bunch of hypocrites. They should be embarrassed, but they're not.
 

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You mean "perfect" because he's a small businessman with limited resources who was nearly bankrupted by the last legal battle, right?

What fine advocates to protect the oppressed of our society! LOL! Let's find a little guy we can throw our collective resources at (along with the power of state human rights tribunal) and then surely justice will prevail, and we'll all be a little more free!

What a bunch of hypocrites. They should be embarrassed, but they're not.
Nonsense. By this account, no one asked him to in anyway recognize or celebrate anything, just to bake a cake with specified colours.

How and what the customer subsequently intended the colours to symbolize was an unnecessary bit of sharing, but that'll all happen far away from him and no reason compels him to assign any more significance to it than any other icing and cake colour.

He's chosen his martyrdom, and the world is cooperating to supply it.
 

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Nonsense. By this account, no one asked him to in anyway recognize or celebrate anything, just to bake a cake with specified colours.

How and what the customer subsequently intended the colours to symbolize was an unnecessary bit of sharing, but that'll all happen far away from him and no reason compels him to assign any more significance to it than any other icing and cake colour.

He's chosen his martyrdom, and the world is cooperating to supply it.
Are you expressing a legal opinion? Because I'm pretty confident that his defense will be, again, that he expresses his personal artistry in the cakes he prepares, that his religious views prohibit recognition that those created in the Lord's image can reject the work of The Creator by redefining their sexual identity (pretty sure there will be scriptural support for that interpretation of the Bible), and that forcing him to make such cakes is to him, forcing him to express a heresy. However, since he didn't go looking for this fight, he'll have the additional sympathy of the court that the litigants, as expressed without embarrassment by the OP, were actively seeking to punish him for his views. And he'll win again. And eventually, the state of Colorado and/or these litigants will be cutting him some big cheques, but not before years of stress. All because no one in the LGBT community in Colorado is prepared to open a bake shop? Such utter nonsense.
 

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You mean "perfect" because he's a small businessman with limited resources who was nearly bankrupted by the last legal battle, right?

What fine advocates to protect the oppressed of our society! LOL! Let's find a little guy we can throw our collective resources at (along with the power of state human rights tribunal) and then surely justice will prevail, and we'll all be a little more free!

What a bunch of hypocrites. They should be embarrassed, but they're not.
If you re-read the article, you will notice that: “Phillips (is) represented by the anti-LGBTQ hate group Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF)”...so cry me a fucking river. All of this bigot’s expenses are covered.
 

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If you re-read the article, you will notice that: “Phillips (is) represented by the anti-LGBTQ hate group Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF)”...so cry me a fucking river. All of this bigot’s expenses are covered.
You must have missed his "post victory" interviews where he explained that he had to shut down the business pending the SCOTUS court decision in order to avoid incurring further potential liability. I don't think the ADF is fronting him his lost business income.

I wonder why they didn't walk into Baskin Robbins or Dairy Queen? Maybe they'll make cakes depicting anything you want? Or maybe there are so few bakers taking their religions as seriously as this one, that he was the only defendant they could manufacture? Which means there's really no significant problem in reality.
 

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Because after all no one should be allowed to have religious scruples especially in a bespoke business. :mad:

You will recall that his shop is perfectly happy to sell pre-decorated pastries to anyone who wishes to purchase them.

Peculiar as well that no one in Colorado Government seems to make a connection between this and that specific performance is not a remedy available via injunctive relief.
Practice your religion at home in your own private life. If you want to do business in public then you can’t impose your bigoted beliefs on others.

Someone should ask this guy to bake a wedding cake for an inter-racial wedding. I’d be willing to bet large sums of money that his “religion” prohibits that too.
 

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Practice your religion at home in your own private life. If you want to do business in public then you can’t impose your bigoted beliefs on others.

Someone should ask this guy to bake a wedding cake for an inter-racial wedding. I’d be willing to bet large sums of money that his “religion” prohibits that too.
That makes about as much sense as "practice being gay or transsexual at home in your private life". A religious person remains religious in all aspects of their life, just as someone who is gay or transsexual does.
 

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You must have missed his "post victory" interviews where he explained that he had to shut down the business pending the SCOTUS court decision in order to avoid incurring further potential liability. I don't think the ADF is fronting him his lost business income.

I wonder why they didn't walk into Baskin Robbins or Dairy Queen? Maybe they'll make cakes depicting anything you want? Or maybe there are so few bakers taking their religions as seriously as this one, that he was the only defendant they could manufacture? Which means there's really no significant problem in reality.
The local LGBTQ organizations should make this guy the Baker of Choice for all their events and inundate him with civil rights complaints when he refuses. They should protest outside his bakery non-stop until they drive this homophobic/transphobic piece of shit out of business.

No Justice No Peace
 

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The local LGBTQ organizations should make this guy the Baker of Choice for all their events and inundate him with civil rights complaints when he refuses. They should protest outside his bakery non-stop until they drive this homophobic/transphobic piece of shit out of business.

No Justice No Peace
Nothing like bullying to save well-to-do lawyers from baking oppression!

Their motto should be "We're gonna throw rocks at little kids until we get our way!"

The baker could go with the simpler "No cake for jerks!".
 

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Who fucking cares ??? Bake your own fucking cake. It's supposed to be a free country. Nobody should be forced by the State to do anything against their will. Including paying income taxes or baking a God Damn Cake ! Now fuck off and go panty shopping at Value Village. When the hell did Earth become Planet Retard !
 

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Nothing like bullying to save well-to-do lawyers from baking oppression!

Their motto should be "We're gonna throw rocks at little kids until we get our way!"

The baker could go with the simpler "No cake for jerks!".
Who fucking cares ??? Bake your own fucking cake. It's supposed to be a free country. Nobody should be forced by the State to do anything against their will. Including paying income taxes or baking a God Damn Cake ! Now fuck off and go panty shopping at Value Village. When the hell did Earth become Planet Retard !
The world is changing and ignorant bigots are becoming extinct.

The arc of history bends towards justice...Deal with it, losers!






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The world is changing and ignorant bigots are becoming extinct.

The arc of history bends towards justice...Deal with it, losers!






:)
I thought it was the LGBT groups harassing the baker that lost the case? Doesn't that mean they are the losers? LOL!
 

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All because no one in the LGBT community in Colorado is prepared to open a bake shop? Such utter nonsense.
They want to put him out off business first, martyrdom doesn't put food on the table. He's being an idiot, this is Colorado not Mississippi. It has a large progressive base that would be ashamed to be seen there - and rednecks aren't exactly partial to cakes, pastries and frappuccino.
 
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