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South African president wants to seize land from white farmers without compensation

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South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, has pledged to return the lands owned by white farmers since the 1600s to the black citizens of the country.
The government plans to accelerate land redistribution through expropriation without compensation.

“The expropriation of land without compensation is envisaged as one of the measures that we will use to accelerate the redistribution of land to black South Africans,” said Ramaphosa, who was sworn into office to succeed Jacob Zuma as president last week.
The millionaire ex-businessman Ramaphosa promised that land expropriation operations will not be a “smash and grab” exercise and promised to handle the matter properly, adding that people “must see this process as an opportunity.”

“No-one is saying that land must be taken away from our people,” he said, “Rather, it is how we can make sure that our people have equitable access to land and security of tenure. We must see this process of accelerated land redistribution as an opportunity and not as a threat,” he added during a speech to parliament on Tuesday.

Such a drastic move would not damage the country’s agriculture or economy, the South African president promised.

“We will handle it with responsibility. We will handle it in a way that will not damage our economy, that is not going to damage agricultural production,” he said.

More than two decades after the end of apartheid in the 1990s, the ruling African National Congress (ANC) party is under pressure to tackle racial disparities in land ownership in South Africa. The country is home to over 50 million people, with whites owning most of the land.
According to a recent study, black South Africans constitute 79 percent of the population, but directly own only 1.2 percent of the country’s rural land. Meanwhile, white South Africans, who constitute 9 percent of the country’s population, directly own 23.6 percent of its rural land, and 11.4 percent of land in towns and cities, according to the Land Audit report.

A similar program of land redistribution was carried out by then-Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Thousands of white farmers were forced from their lands.

However, food production plummeted without the experienced farmers’ contribution, and Zimbabwe’s economy suffered massively. In 2010, the Guardian reported that Mugabe used land reform to reward his allies rather than ordinary black Zimbabweans. In 2016, Mugabe signed a decree that foreign companies would face closure unless they sold or gave up 51 percent of their shares.

Speaking about the redistribution of land in his country, Ramaphosa said that “in dealing with this complex matter” South Africa would not “make the mistakes that others have made.”

https://www.rt.com/business/419543-south-africa-land-compensation-whites/
 

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Pot and the,....

Apartheid, racism, from an accuser country
 

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They are in an awful hurry to become yet another 3rd world country.
 

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South Africa has been experiencing white flight for 3 decades and obviously that will continue under this current policy. We saw how that worked out for American inner cities didn't we?
 

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Will be a good opportunity for Islam to get a foot hold.

Then can anybody say,... SHIT HOLE,...
 

danmand

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The policies used since the fall of Apartheid has not helped the blacks much. Eventually something would have to change.

Will the results be good? Probably not.
 

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Put aside the fact that farming, especially small scale farming, doesn't add much to the economy. But, to achieve it by expropriation without compensation is just plain dumb. Very African, though. In time, they will starve their own population in the name of what?
 

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Put aside the fact that farming, especially small scale farming, doesn't add much to the economy. But, to achieve it by expropriation without compensation is just plain dumb. Very African, though. In time, they will starve their own population in the name of what?
In the name of democracy and equality.
 

jcpro

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In the name of democracy and equality.
We will see if they can dine off equality. So far, none have succeeded, yet. I'm betting they'll turn Venezuela or Zimbabwe.
 

danmand

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We will see if they can dine off equality. So far, none have succeeded, yet. I'm betting they'll turn Venezuela or Zimbabwe.
Quite possibly. It is a bitch to combine ideals with reality:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
 

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
From the Declaration of Independence, written and adopted at the same time as slavery existed.
 

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I question the validity of a website that wants to send me notifications.

There's nothing in Cyril Ramaphosa's past that suggests he would do something so disastrous. He was Nelson Mandela's choice to succeed him as President. He made his name by fighting for the rights and to improve the lot of black miners. Fake news, disseminated by De Beers.

Don't be so quick to judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugsn53QQO7Q
 

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There are plenty of sources including South African ones.
https://www.timeslive.co.za/politic...solution-on-land-expropriation-in-parliament/

Of course I don't understand how appropriating land now is supposed to repair Europeans setting up farms on land hundreds of years ago when the indigenous groups had no understanding of the European version of land ownership. If it was bad once, it is bad twice.

But hey, it worked so well in Zimbabwe.
 

danmand

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Of course I don't understand how appropriating land now is supposed to repair Europeans setting up farms on land hundreds of years ago when the indigenous groups had no understanding of the European version of land ownership.
We all knew you wouldn't understand. Or rather that you find it OK for white people to take land from black or brown people.
 

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We all knew you wouldn't understand. Or rather that you find it OK for white people to take land from black or brown people.
Have you considered giving your land to Native Canadians?
 

danmand

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Have you considered giving your land to Native Canadians?
Immediately after USA gives its land back to the natives.

PS: I gave my land in SA back to the natives. LOL
 

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Immediately after USA gives its land back to the natives.

PS: I gave my land in SA back to the natives. LOL
Why be that pathetic bitch Canadian always looking for American leadership, go ahead, show the courage of your conviction. I’ll be holding my breath :eyeroll:
 

danmand

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Well the South African Parliament voted yesterday by 241 to 83 to go ahead with this and authorize the expropriation without compensation of White owned land.

Where one may ask is the outrage on the part of Western anti-apartheid campaigners?
Why would there be outrage? Repairing the damage of Apartheid should please the Western anti-apartheid campaigners.
 
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