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CBC: Forget the 'slippery slope' — Israel already is an apartheid state
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Do you want to see a poll where the vast majority of Palestinians detest your idea but somehow your elitist, Victorian attitude makes you ignore their opinions and tell them what's good for them. It is completely reinforced by your refusal to criticize the Palestinians for rejecting your view of 'equal rights' and rejecting even the concept of permanent peace.You wanna poll and see how many are happy with the way things are now?...
I'll stick with the solution endorsed by the UN, Canada, the EU, Russia, and even the Arab League as the only possible solution to the conflict....
Unless you've got another viable option?....
I see, so arguing for equal rights is 'Victorian' and arguing for colonial apartheid is the 'new new'?Do you want to see a poll where the vast majority of Palestinians detest your idea but somehow your elitist, Victorian attitude makes you ignore their opinions and tell them what's good for them. It is completely reinforced by your refusal to criticize the Palestinians for rejecting your view of 'equal rights' and rejecting even the concept of permanent peace.
You should support this.
1. Human rights are universal and indivisible and should be upheld without exception. This is as applicable in Israel and Occupied Palestine as it is elsewhere.
2. Palestinians and Israelis alike have the right to peaceful and secure lives.
3. Peace and stability require the willingness of all parties to the conflict to comply with international law.
4. There is no justification for any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, anti-Arab racism or lslamaphobia in any circumstance.
5. The battle against anti-Semitism is vital and is undermined whenever opposition to Israeli government policies is automatically branded as anti-Semitic.
Its much better then backing apartheid.
You thinking the Palestinians are incapable of making up their own mind and refusing to hold them accountable is purely Victorian style racismI see, so arguing for equal rights is 'Victorian' and arguing for colonial apartheid is the 'new new'?
If you ever criticized the Palestinians and Arab leadership for their rejection of those ideals, you might have a shred of credibility.You should support this.
But keep on rejecting the views of Canada and the UN. That shows how much you are interested in human rights.
Nope.I'll stick with the solution endorsed by the UN, Canada, the EU, Russia, and even the Arab League as the only possible solution to the conflict.
Impossible now 'cuz the military occupation says they're keeping it.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/29/16220132/netanyahu-settlements-we-will-stay-forever-west-bank
They can clearly make up their minds, don't be so pedantic.You thinking the Palestinians are incapable of making up their own mind and refusing to hold them accountable is purely Victorian style racism
They would love to have a state of Palestine.
Unfortunately, Israel keeps saying 'we are here to stay'.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/29/16220132/netanyahu-settlements-we-will-stay-forever-west-bank
The one state solution is here.
Right now.
Only its apartheid, and that's not so nice.
That's why its time to just give them all equal rights.
Abbas sucks ass and should have resigned a decade ago.If you ever criticized the Palestinians and Arab leadership for their rejection of those ideals, you might have a shred of credibility.
Good enough?
Yet that doesn't stop you from telling them you know better than them.They can clearly make up their minds, don't be so pedantic....
The Palestinians overwhelmingly reject the idea of equal rights with Israelis and major Palestinian factions reject the idea of peace at all.
The one state solution is here.Yet that doesn't stop you from telling them you know better than them.
The Palestinians overwhelmingly reject the idea of equal rights with Israelis and major Palestinian factions reject the idea of peace at all.
Right now.
Only its apartheid, and that's not so nice.
That's why its time to just give them all equal rights.
For the Palestinians, the no-state solution will be there until groups like Hamas and Fatah's armed wing accept the concept of peace. If you really supported equal rights, you would also complain about the Palestinian refusal to accept it.The one state solution is here.....
I've asked before and you've avoided answering, how has Hamas' use of terrorism and attacks on military done anything to advance the welfare of the Palestinian people?
The 'no state' or one state solution that is there won't change regardless of what Hamas or any Palestinian says as long as Israel declares they won't give up any land or settlements.For the Palestinians, the no-state solution will be there until groups like Hamas and Fatah's armed wing accept the concept of peace.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/29/16220132/netanyahu-settlements-we-will-stay-forever-west-bank“We are here to stay, forever.” Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu vows to keep settlements.
If you didn't lie about these things so often I wouldn't have to post so often.
Just saying.
Too bad for your 'argument' that Israel has made repeated offers to give up land. The UN the Arab League, and even Abbas have agreed with land swaps being part of a final deal.The 'no state' or one state solution that is there won't change regardless of what Hamas or any Palestinian says as long as Israel declares they won't give up any land or settlements.....
You have proven Hamas is against a permanent peace deal and all Palestinian factions are opposed to the One State idea your Victorian elitism wants to force on them. Hamas has also refused to hand over their military to the PA. A heavily armed terrorist faction with significant support among the people refuses to accept peace but of course you only want to blame Israel.
Nonsense, there has never been a legitimate peace deal that would create a Palestinian state written down signed by the Israeli side.Too bad for your 'argument' that Israel has made repeated offers to give up land.
As you stated:
That 'no-state' is apartheid.For the Palestinians, the no-state solution will be there
You are backing apartheid, no-state, no citizenship, no human rights.
Talk about weasel words. there have been plenty of offers made by Israel. Some were through formal peace conferences while other's like Olmert's ideal offer was direct. The Palestinians refused to accept the concept in any case.Nonsense, there has never been a legitimate peace deal that would create a Palestinian state written down signed by the Israeli side.
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Abbas should be considered a national disgrace for walking away Olmert's offer but Hamas and even parts of Abbas' own part celebrate it since it means they can continue to pretend Israel doesn't exist.
No serious offer.Talk about weasel words. there have been plenty of offers made by Israel. Some were through formal peace conferences while other's like Olmert's ideal offer was direct. The Palestinians refused to accept the concept in any case.
Abbas should be considered a national disgrace for walking away Olmert's offer but Hamas and even parts of Abbas' own part celebrate it since it means they can continue to pretend Israel doesn't exist.
Go ahead, list the serious offers and show us the written terms for this offer of a peace deal.
Israel just used them as delaying tactics, like the Oslo Accords, while they built more 'facts on the ground'.
And now there is the 'no-state' or apartheid solution presently in place.
Which you continue to support.
Israel accepted the Peel Commission plan. The Arabs started a revolt.No serious offer.....
Israel accepted the UN Partition. The Arabs/Palestinians refused and launched a war.
Israel accepted Camp David in 2000. The Palestinians rejected it.
Israel accepted the Clinton Parameters. The Palestinians rejected them.
Israel accepted the ideas of the Arab League plan. The Palestinians refused.
Olmert offered a comprehensive peace deal, more than compliant with all expectations of the UN. Abbas walked away.
Abbas had repeatedly stated he will reject any plan that involves him recognizing Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people (but he has no issue declaring Islam the official state religion of Palestine).
Significant parts of Abbas' party reject the idea of Israel existing. Hamas rejects Israel's existence.
Nonsense, your take on history is biased and wrong.Israel accepted the Peel Commission plan. The Arabs started a revolt.
Israel accepted the UN Partition. The Arabs/Palestinians refused and launched a war.
Israel accepted Camp David in 2000. The Palestinians rejected it.
Israel accepted the Clinton Parameters. The Palestinians rejected them.
Israel accepted the ideas of the Arab League plan. The Palestinians refused.
Olmert offered a comprehensive peace deal, more than compliant with all expectations of the UN. Abbas walked away.
Abbas had repeatedly stated he will reject any plan that involves him recognizing Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people (but he has no issue declaring Islam the official state religion of Palestine).
Significant parts of Abbas' party reject the idea of Israel existing. Hamas rejects Israel's existence.
The proof is that there is no Palestinian state nor have negotiations ever stated a border.
The history of Jewish terrorism and partition are well known.
Israel has been illegally occupying Palestine for half a century, ending that occupation has always been up to Israel, not Palestinians.
As you stated, its now the 'no-state' apartheid solution.
Congrats, you've built an apartheid state.
Your usual response to facts. Which of those facts is "biased and wrong"?Nonsense, your take on history is biased and wrong....
Palestinians have had many opportunities in the past 100 years for peace. The issue is that a good chunk of them, including in Fatah and Hamas, see all of Israel is "occupied" and reject the idea of living alongside a Jewish state.
And there is absolutely nothing illegal about Israel occupying the West Bank and Gaza. Jordan signed over control of the West Bank in their peace deal with Israel.
UN 242, buddy.Your usual response to facts. Which of those facts is "biased and wrong"?
Palestinians have had many opportunities in the past 100 years for peace. The issue is that a good chunk of them, including in Fatah and Hamas, see all of Israel is "occupied" and reject the idea of living alongside a Jewish state.
And there is absolutely nothing illegal about Israel occupying the West Bank and Gaza. Jordan signed over control of the West Bank in their peace deal with Israel.
The issue is that Netanyahu's party, Likud, wants all the land for themselves.
And they are the occupiers.
Your 'no-state' solution is apartheid.
Which requires the Palestinians to accept peace, something they have refused to do.UN 242, buddy.....
And you once again show your criticism only apply to one side. Why is it you are happy to criticize Likud criticize the terrorist group Hamas?
And I see that you are unable to dispute any of the facts that I posted. Israel has repeatedly offered or accepted peace deals while the Palestinians have repeatedly refused.
