ACTUAL SCIENTIST: "Climate Change is a Scam!"

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It's still more credible than you or your "sources".

You're not going to win by arguing against the best scientific journals there are.
Until you produce the article, I win.


Just for you both paper published in Journals of Science and Nature as you requested!


CLOUD, the experiment that measures the birth of clouds at CERN, has released new papers:

Nature: Ion-induced nucleation of pure biogenic particles
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v476/n7361/full/nature10343.html

Science: New particle formation in the free troposphere: A question of chemistry and timing
AP (a popular/politicized distortion): New Cloud Formation Discovery May Lessen Warming Forecast
CLOUD has done lots of measurements of the processes that are needed to create clouds which, as many kids have noticed, usually cool down the weather.


The experiment has been taking place at CERN because the cosmic rays (emulated by the CERN's sources of beams) are important for the creation of the cloud (condensation) nuclei. Even in the new papers, cosmic rays are found to increase the nucleation rate by 1-2 orders of magnitude.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/05/24/science.aad5456


Recall that the Sun's activity may influence the cosmic ray flux, and therefore its variations may be responsible for "climate change". Svensmark's theory generally argues that a stronger solar activity means a more perfect shielding of the cosmic rays, therefore less cloudiness, and therefore warmer weather.


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And obviously you aren't when it comes to science.
Maybe not,...but sure as hell a lot better at logic, facts and reality,...and not naive.
 

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Just for you both paper published in Journals of Science and Nature as you requested!


CLOUD, the experiment that measures the birth of clouds at CERN, has released new papers:

Nature: Ion-induced nucleation of pure biogenic particles
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v476/n7361/full/nature10343.html

Science: New particle formation in the free troposphere: A question of chemistry and timing
AP (a popular/politicized distortion): New Cloud Formation Discovery May Lessen Warming Forecast
CLOUD has done lots of measurements of the processes that are needed to create clouds which, as many kids have noticed, usually cool down the weather.


The experiment has been taking place at CERN because the cosmic rays (emulated by the CERN's sources of beams) are important for the creation of the cloud (condensation) nuclei. Even in the new papers, cosmic rays are found to increase the nucleation rate by 1-2 orders of magnitude.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/05/24/science.aad5456


Recall that the Sun's activity may influence the cosmic ray flux, and therefore its variations may be responsible for "climate change". Svensmark's theory generally argues that a stronger solar activity means a more perfect shielding of the cosmic rays, therefore less cloudiness, and therefore warmer weather.


PS: I win you LOST!!!
Neither of those articles say global warming isn't caused by humans. You are clueless!
 

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italianguy74 your analogy is silly, I would as you not to do it again and move on to something decent and military.

On their own CO2 emissions shouldn't make much of a difference but there are accumulative factors. Instead of typing them out I'll post the articles.

https://polluting-plastic.com/?gclid=CjwKEAjwjunJBRDzl6iCpoKS4G0SJACJAx-Viholc_ygEJSA1zG-65BRbtjatFc1Mr0ExXYak_ZYQBoCsRDw_wcB

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/oceans/orange-roughy-%E2%80%93-%E2%80%98sustainable%E2%80%99-fish-certification-too-far-20160621
You guys always need to open up with an insult to add some extra illegitimate argument to your response. Pollution is a problem that needs to be minimized regardless of what effect you think it has on the climate. We can reverse everything you bring up and although it would benefit us all to have clean air, food and water none of it will stop climate change. We didn't cause the ice age(s) and we didn't melt em either, so stop believing humans are causing the climate to change by using any form of activity as evidence...that is the moral to my silly story.
 

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Neither of those articles say global warming isn't caused by humans. You are clueless!
I won you lost!

You are so clueless! It the sun and the cloud formation affect the climate!


CLOUD, the experiment that measures the birth of clouds at CERN, has released new papers:

Nature: Ion-induced nucleation of pure biogenic particles
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v476/n7361/full/nature10343.html

Science: New particle formation in the free troposphere: A question of chemistry and timing
AP (a popular/politicized distortion): New Cloud Formation Discovery May Lessen Warming Forecast
CLOUD has done lots of measurements of the processes that are needed to create clouds which, as many kids have noticed, usually cool down the weather.


The experiment has been taking place at CERN because the cosmic rays (emulated by the CERN's sources of beams) are important for the creation of the cloud (condensation) nuclei. Even in the new papers, cosmic rays are found to increase the nucleation rate by 1-2 orders of magnitude.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/05/24/science.aad5456


Recall that the Sun's activity may influence the cosmic ray flux, and therefore its variations may be responsible for "climate change". Svensmark's theory generally argues that a stronger solar activity means a more perfect shielding of the cosmic rays, therefore less cloudiness, and therefore warmer weather.


PS: I win you LOST!!!
 

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I found a real scientist who says the world is 6000 years old and man co-existed with the dinosaurs. I guess it doesn't matter if the peer reviewed science is against him.
 

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???????

You really seem to enjoy fabricating other people's arguments.

The scientific evidence has CO2 playing a major role in the current climactic changes. It is also completely factual that rising water temperature makes the volume of water increase. Hell, you can even experiment on it at home with a narrow bottle and a microwave.

And in case you missed the earlier poster, Florida has a huge amount of work going on to battle rising sea levels including raising up entire city blocks by several feet.
I don't know what the hell you are blabbing about now,...but this is the context of my post you replied to,...but actually did NOT.

"Sea levels rise,...always have,...always will.

Sea levels were rising in the 1800's.

Science doesn't know at what rate sea levels rose for ANY worth while period of time,...so looking at the last 100 + years,...is absolutely useless
."

Try again if you want,...but stay on subject this time,...or don't even bother.
 

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I won you lost!

You are so clueless! It the sun and the cloud formation affect the climate!


CLOUD, the experiment that measures the birth of clouds at CERN, has released new papers:

Nature: Ion-induced nucleation of pure biogenic particles
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v476/n7361/full/nature10343.html

Science: New particle formation in the free troposphere: A question of chemistry and timing
AP (a popular/politicized distortion): New Cloud Formation Discovery May Lessen Warming Forecast
CLOUD has done lots of measurements of the processes that are needed to create clouds which, as many kids have noticed, usually cool down the weather.


The experiment has been taking place at CERN because the cosmic rays (emulated by the CERN's sources of beams) are important for the creation of the cloud (condensation) nuclei. Even in the new papers, cosmic rays are found to increase the nucleation rate by 1-2 orders of magnitude.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/05/24/science.aad5456


Recall that the Sun's activity may influence the cosmic ray flux, and therefore its variations may be responsible for "climate change". Svensmark's theory generally argues that a stronger solar activity means a more perfect shielding of the cosmic rays, therefore less cloudiness, and therefore warmer weather.


PS: I win you LOST!!!
Im pretty sure you have no idea what you quoted. I wonder if you are actually some kind of spam bot. Usually after pasting this sort of nonsense there's a spam link to some website.
 

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Im pretty sure you have no idea what you quoted. I wonder if you are actually some kind of spam bot. Usually after pasting this sort of nonsense there's a spam link to some website.
You are a sore loser!!
 

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You are a sore loser!!
That,...and judging by his post #130,...as he can't comprehend the subjects in what you posted,...thus he falls back to his time honoured childish response,... of simply insulting.
 

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That,...and judging by his post #130,...as he can't comprehend the subjects in what you posted,...thus he falls back to his time honoured childish response,... of simply insulting.
I read both links, neither disputed global warming.
 

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Not surprised,...

I read both links, neither disputed global warming.
You missed the whole point,...again.
 

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CLOUD, the experiment that measures the birth of clouds at CERN, has released new papers:
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And where in that paper does it say that cloud formation due to solar activity plays a larger role than human produced CO2?

As I said, of course it plays a role but years of analysis comparing solar activity to increasing global temperature has shown a weak correlation meaning that solar driven cloud formation is not the main driving force.
 

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I don't know what the hell you are blabbing about now,...but this is the context of my post you replied to,...but actually did NOT.

"Sea levels rise,...always have,...always will.

Sea levels were rising in the 1800's.

Science doesn't know at what rate sea levels rose for ANY worth while period of time,...so looking at the last 100 + years,...is absolutely useless
."

Try again if you want,...but stay on subject this time,...or don't even bother.
Are you really trying to say that the temperature/density relationship of sea water is off topic?

Besides that, seal levels have not "always" been rising and more importantly I'm not interested in whether seal levels impacted the dinosaurs. Rather I'm concerned about what rising sea levels are doing to human society now and what can be done to prevent further disastrous changes.
 

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The only point I'm interested in is this one: global warming has been confirmed by 100% of the scientists and studies credible enough to get published in the top journals.
Who gives a shit what fricken point you are interested in,...and in what magazines your point is published in,...nobody gives a shit.

AND,...if you are only interested in one point of view,...then shut the fuck up about other peoples points of view,...who obviously are a lot more open minded and intelligent than you.

Last,..."100% of the scientists and studies ",...that ridiculous statement alone confirms how out of touch you are with reality,...and definatly not capable posting in a thread about the environment.
 

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