Trump up 34% in early Florida voting

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Hillary's own internal pollster (Beneson Strategy Group) says she's SCREWED

Executive Overview: Hillary Clinton Flash-Crash to 12% Favorable, Losing 19-77% Nationally
http://media.wix.com/ugd/0cf371_514bfe6a2dec4871ab7da7d50b9be410.pdf

At this point Donald Trump has both momentum and enthusiasm. Distrust in the mainstream media is blunting the impact of the collective polling narrative. As Election Day approaches, Hillary Clinton’s favorable ratings have crashed to historic lows (12%) in nonpartisans and Donald Trump is consolidating support (97% of LV Republican-identifying respondents are either enthusiastic or very
enthusiastic about voting for Trump).

Among independents, Hillary voters who are exposed to any alternative media (73%) are aware of the WikiLeaks emails and find them either disturbing (54%) or deeply disturbing (18%). Among liberal-identifying whites, support is shifting from Hillary (-27 since October 1st) to Donald Trump (78%) or Jill Stein (21%).

For voters who solely consume mainstream media only 28% are aware of the WikiLeaks emails and of those, only 8% are aware of the content. For these voters Clinton leads Trump by +8.

Minority voters are less likely to consume alternative media (only 14%) and are less likely to be aware of the email leak (only 18% for males, 9% for females). Even with this group, enthusiasm is down 63 points compared to October 2008. On other fronts, the counter-narrative is failing as well.

Most heavy consumers of social media understand that the allegations against Donald Trump of sexual misconduct have largely been debunked (77%). We understand that communications strategies in that space have been unable to reduce the impact of this messaging. Worse, among white males in telephone polling 93% of them either approve (72%) or strongly approve (21%) of Donald Trump’s hot-mic tape. Only 39% of women approve of them however a majority (64%) say they ‘understand that confident men talk that way.’ In effect, these allegations have been diffused.


On a positive note, most respondents who were liberal-leaning (83%) or Independent (59%) were unaware of the messaging front concerning Bill Clinton’s sexual misconduct. While the vast majority (88%) were aware of consensual extra-marital relationships, the mainstream media approach to the stories has left only 8% of liberal-leaning voters and only 19% of independents aware of the allegations of rape.

On a disturbing note, some 70% of Republican-leaning voters are aware bussed-in voting, false-face operations, and dead-man’s-party registration drives. This may necessitate severe strategy changes for November.
At the end of the paper, Beneson outlines possible "Salvage Scenarios" and recommends the following....

Recommended Salvage: FIRESIGN

For almost two decades the Department of Defense and NASA have coordinated on a black book project under the codename FIRESIGN. FIRESIGN’s aim is to create a religious “awe effect” in enemy
populations to create an instantaneous psychological soft-kill (abject submission). The operation uses high powered lasers to project realseeming images on the sodium layer 100km above the surface.
These images can cover hundreds or even thousands of square miles and can appear completely real, three dimensional, and can move. These visual cues are augmented with pulsed ELF electromagnetic
emissions (see: PROJECT SANGUINE) that attack the specific areas of the prefrontal cortex that are stimulated during religious experience. In limited tests, subjects have been able to be overwhelmed on both axis of vastness (an overwhelming of the subject’s frame of reference) and a powerful need-for accommodation. The mix of these two will produce inaction, lack of focus on self or individual interaction, and gross transformations in mental equilibrium (a Road-to-Damascus Experience).

The ability to produce these effects across 23% of the continental United States is the objective of FIRESIGN and field tests in the Levant have proven successful. The FIRESIGN scenario is that of an invading extraterrestrial force of nearly incomprehensible scale (massive floating cities descending, god-sized “walkers” among the clouds with terrifying weapons, wheels of fire and eyes, etc.). This phenomena, when activated will bring electoral and social systems to a halt and, in afflicted areas, will permit a narrative wherein POTUS is able to “Call a halt” to the invasion and then “hand over the
torch” to Clinton, providing a basic continuity of state.
 

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Hillary's own internal pollster (Beneson Strategy Group) says she's SCREWED

Executive Overview: Hillary Clinton Flash-Crash to 12% Favorable, Losing 19-77% Nationally
http://media.wix.com/ugd/0cf371_514bfe6a2dec4871ab7da7d50b9be410.pdf

At the end of the paper, Beneson outlines possible "Salvage Scenarios" and recommends the following....
Amazing what you can find in the dark corners of the internet.
Also very funny that you're using something based on phone polls from almost 2 weeks ago.
 

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Literacy problems?
I can read just fine, fuji.

You said your 2 polls were the most scientific, so I assume you meant they were also the most accurate.
If not, then why the hell did you bring it up??

And of those scientific polls on your list were the only two that had polled people post debate
Poor grammar. You're not making sense.

Try it again
 

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I can read just fine, fuji.

You said your 2 polls were the most scientific, so I assume you meant they were also the most accurate.
If not, then why the hell did you bring it up??


Poor grammar. You're not making sense.

Try it again
I said "the only two scientific post debate polls, CNN and YouGov, have Clinton winning".

Not "most" and qualified as "post debate". What about that simple English sentence did you have trouble with?

None of the other scientific polls had conducted any surveys since the debate at that time.
 

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You should have waited a few days. This post-debate poll has Trump winning by 1 point:

http://www.tipponline.com/news/elec...ead-holds-despite-debate-uproar-ibd-tipp-poll
That poll shows Clinton leading Trump in a head to head race, unchanged since the debate.

What is shows is Stein siphoning off support from Clinton. That result doesn't seem to translate into an electoral college change though since Stein voters are mostly in states like California that are going to go Democrat.

However it's interesting. That poll was also conducted at least partly before the debate. We will probably need to wait until Monday to get a clear picture from some of the larger polls.
 

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Hey, if it works....stick with it :D

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/22/trump-gains-on-clinton-poll-shows-rigged-message-resonates.html

Trump gains on Clinton, poll shows 'rigged' message resonates

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gained on his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton among American voters this week, cutting her lead nearly in half, according to Reuters/Ipsos polling released on Friday.

The polling data showed Trump's argument that the Nov. 8 election is "rigged" against him has resonated with members of his party.

"Remember folks, it's a rigged system," Trump told a Pennsylvania rally on Friday. "That's why you've got to get out and vote, you've got to watch. Because this system is totally rigged."

Clinton led Trump 44 percent to 40 percent, according to the Oct. 14-20 Reuters/Ipsos poll, a 4-point lead. That compared with 44 percent for Clinton and 37 percent for Trump in the Oct. 7-13 poll released last week
 

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So his 40,000 vote lead is now only 20,000?

The election is all but over, just listen to Trump, all he's doing is whining about losing these days.
Even though it is a small sample, it is kind of crazy that 20,000 more people voted for Trump over Hilary.

After Duyba's first term, I thought there was no way in hell he could win a second term..then he did!!!

Don't kid yourselves people, Trump still has a shot at winning this.
 

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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And what does a Hamilton resident who threw the can have to with low-class Toronto??
He's upset because the people beside the can thrower didn't rat him out, (how he knows they are from Toronto is beyond my knowledge) you know, like when Fuji doesn't like what people have to say he runs to the mods, or threatens them with banning to shut them up. He is not a fan of freedom of speech, that is abundantly clear.
 

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So his 40,000 vote lead is now only 20,000?

The election is all but over, just listen to Trump, all he's doing is whining about losing these days
If the 16 point lead with Independents by Trump in IBD poll holds in Florida, Trump is about 102,000 votes ahead in absentee ballots
 

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Yes, it is most likely that Trump will take Florida, Texas, Utah, Ohio, Georgia, La...many states. The result will be close and Trump will likely demand recounts everywhere he doesn't win.
Clinton is up by 4% in Florida according to realclearpolitics.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton-5635.html

The absentee ballots are all a couple of weeks behind the latest news and developments.

Texas is within the margin of error as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/22/democrats-texas-hillary-clinton-polls-donald-trump

The states he was supposed to win are all looking close right now.
 

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He's upset because the people beside the can thrower didn't rat him out, (how he knows they are from Toronto is beyond my knowledge) you know, like when Fuji doesn't like what people have to say he runs to the mods, or threatens them with banning to shut them up. He is not a fan of freedom of speech, that is abundantly clear
He tried to get me banned for calling him a 'ladyboy'. Didnt work though, I'm still here :biggrin1:
 

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He's upset because the people beside the can thrower didn't rat him out, (how he knows they are from Toronto is beyond my knowledge) you know, like when Fuji doesn't like what people have to say he runs to the mods, or threatens them with banning to shut them up. He is not a fan of freedom of speech, that is abundantly clear.
I have only reported people to the mods for posting insults. That's only a problem for people whose debating skills are limited to posting insults.
 
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