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No, it was my opinion.
Which you tried to present as fact. So you LIED. Let's return to the actual facts, rather than the fantasy world of lies you live in.

Actual fact: the police NEVER withdrew the charge. The DA decided not to proceed.
 

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Which you tried to present as fact. So you LIED. Let's return to the actual facts, rather than the fantasy world of lies you live in.

Actual fact: the police NEVER withdrew the charge. The DA decided not to proceed.
Fact: the police laid a charge when there was insufficient evidence to do so. So because the police were incorrect the D.A. Corrected the mistake.

So this was in fact police error. And no crime was committed.
 

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Fact: the police laid a charge when there was insufficient evidence to do so.
That is not a fact. That is YOUR OPINION. Learn the difference.

The only facts we know are that:

A) she claimed she was grabbed
B) video and eye witnesses corroborated her claim
C) she had bruises
D) the police laid a charge
E) the DA opted not to proceed to trial

You don't know why the DA opted not to proceed, but a good bet is because other minor assaults aren't often prosecuted either.
 

Butler1000

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That is not a fact. That is YOUR OPINION. Learn the difference.

The only facts we know are that:

A) she claimed she was grabbed
B) video and eye witnesses corroborated her claim
C) she had bruises
D) the police laid a charge
E) the DA opted not to proceed to trial

You don't know why the DA opted not to proceed, but a good bet is because other minor assaults aren't often prosecuted either.
Fact: no charges.....no crime occured. The rest is actually your opinion.
 

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In summary we know that he was violent towards a pesky reporter, that the police thought the violence was worthy of a charge, but the DA did not.
Fuji, what was the reason that the DA gave for dropping the charges?
 

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Fuji, what was the reason that the DA gave for dropping the charges?
"Palm Beach County prosecutors said that while Lewandowski had grabbed Fields — contradicting the aide's denials — the evidence was not strong enough to support a criminal prosecution."

So those who say he didn't grab her are full of shit, even the DA said he did. That also makes Lewandowski a blatant liar for denying that he did.

What evidence they are lacking given that they acknowledge he grabbed her is unclear. I think they just don't want to use court time for a minor incident.
 

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She was told to back away twice by the secret service. That's all Trump needs to clear his manager of any charges. He was acting in defense of a presidential front runner. If you watch TMZ you will see bodyguards of celebs move people out of the way all the time. This was a foolish case from the get - go and the police avoided opening a can of worms. All people who were touched/shoved in crowded events would sue.
 

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"Palm Beach County prosecutors said that while Lewandowski had grabbed Fields — contradicting the aide's denials — the evidence was not strong enough to support a criminal prosecution."
Thank you. Even you should be able to make the connection that if there was not enough evidence to convict the man of a crime. then perhaps he did not assault her as she claimed. Below is a quote from
an article I read. Somewhere in that article, the State Attorney said that they have to be held to a "higher standard".

After reviewing the evidence in the case, the state attorney said he doesn't feel there is enough evidence to pursue criminal charges. He explained that while police are required to meet a "probable cause" threshold to make an arrest, prosecutors must believe they have a chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the battery occurred and get a conviction.
 

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Sure, but the DA also confirmed that he did grab her, which proves that Lewandowski is a liar, along with AK who is still trying to live the lie.

The question is whether yanking on someone's arm rises to the level of criminal assault. There is no question that he did so.
 

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Sure, but the DA also confirmed that he did grab her, which proves that Lewandowski is a liar, along with AK who is still trying to live the lie.

The question is whether yanking on someone's arm rises to the level of criminal assault. There is no question that he did so.
Actually fuji to further this I was watching on CNN this morning. And what the prosecutors said was they weren't sure if he did it to try to protect Trump and on that basis the charges were dropped.

Which means my assessment under the Trespass Laws down there are correct. He was considered under the law to be within legal rights to use physical force to move her.

I was in fact correct.

He didn't commit a crime because the prosecutors determined that what he did under the law was legal.
 

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i believe Fuji suffers from a psych disorder. Really. I don't say that with any animosity. However normal folks in his shoes would be too embarrassed to argue at this point.

Fields is scum and the scum of the media blew this thing out of proportion. But they lost this time. Legal heads stepped in and squashed the lunacy.

Tally:

1 law, 0 scum
 

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The police AND prosecutors say she was grabbed. Eye witnesses say it. Just stop lying
The police and prosecutor did NOT say she was grabbed. All the police had to go by were one or 2 witnesses (who may have been lying), and the video evidence.

After the 3rd video came out they right away dropped charges because there was no arm grab (or at least nothing that warranted a criminal charge).

And you never answered my question, fuji. Here it is again:

Here's the 3rd video. Can you tell us exactly at which seconds the "assault" happened, fuji???

I want the EXACT minute/second mark, please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-BJlDhQ9E
 

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i believe Fuji suffers from a psych disorder. Really. I don't say that with any animosity. However normal folks in his shoes would be too embarrassed to argue at this point
I'm starting to wonder that too
 

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I think they just don't want to use court time for a minor incident.
You repeatedly claimed that she was beaten up and violently assaulted.
How do you explain this flipflop and all of your biased bullshit?


"Trump campaign manager charged with battery
For beating up that female reporter in Florida. Police have investigated and he has been charged.

The campaign manager is being charged with violently causing physical injury to another person.
Trump can spin this and the gullible sheep who follow him may mindlessly believe anything but this charge is more than grabbing an arm.

The police and prosecutor after careful examination of the facts and videos have decided to press a charge of criminal battery.

This was an intentional, violent act of aggression.

The police and the DA carefully reviewed that video and all the evidence and concluded it depicts Corey Lewandowski battering Michelle Fields. He has been arrested and charged.

Let's be clear: he assaulted her so violently that he left her with bruises.

The reality is this was a violent act.
When you assault somebody and leave them with bruises it is a real assault, in fact, it is assault and battery.

Grabbing somebody's arm and yanking them violently to the point you leave them bruised does.

It's a fact that he yanked her arm so violently that he left her with bruises.

Only you and lewandowski have had to change your stories after being confronted with facts." fuji
 

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There was actually only ONE eyewitness to the event, he was a NY Times reporter.
And we all know how the NY Times feels about Trump, not very good.

So if she was allegedly assaulted in a room with at least 100 people, how come nobody else has come forward to corroborate Michelle's story??? Oh I know, its because it never happened.

She's a liar, so is the NY Times reporter and so is fuji
 

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In which video did Lewandowski assault Fields??
Please post the video, and approximate seconds into the video where the assault took place
She brushed Trump on his arm - very typical for reporters. Lewandowski grabbed her by the arm leaving finger marks and physically pulled her back. There is a significant difference involved.
 

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Fact: the police laid a charge when there was insufficient evidence to do so. So because the police were incorrect the D.A. Corrected the mistake.

So this was in fact police error. And no crime was committed.
You overstate the facts. Decisions on the part of the D.A.'s Office not to proceed, do not at all mean that police were in error to have arrested or summonsed the defendant. (This is personal knowledge & experience).
 
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