He should have shot the air filter to disable the engine instead of killing it.I'm willing to bet those who were advocating leg shots in previous threads, will still be uppity about a cop shooting an engine block.
He should have shot the air filter to disable the engine instead of killing it.I'm willing to bet those who were advocating leg shots in previous threads, will still be uppity about a cop shooting an engine block.
Maybe he could have talked calmly to the car, asked it what it's name was.....He should have shot the air filter to disable the engine instead of killing it.
Maybe not. According to the video, it looks like the driver has a clear path behind him..... unless all cops cars hit him at the right angles and pinned it completely.Of course it does. The vehicle was surrounded. I guess he had never used his weapon in action before and was frustrated.
Still doesn't matter how well it was pinned or not...no shootie allowed!!!!Maybe not. According to the video, it looks like the driver has a clear path behind him..... unless all cops cars hit him at the right angles and pinned it completely.
And you're still missing the point, which this charge reinforces; if there's no justification to potentially kill, then there's no justification to shoot in the first place. Discharging a firearm is a risk, the risk needs to outweigh the immediate threat to life faced by the shooter. If it doesn't, the shot wasn't warranted, period.Better than shooting the driver. Problem solved in any case. Cop made a judgement call to disable a vehicle. Seemed it worked. Nobody got hurt. If it was Forcillo, you'd have a Bonnie and Clyde scene with a dead guy strapped in the driver's seat with bullet holes everywhere.
Going by your posts in other threads, the cop should have shot to kill..... 9 bullets into centre mass.
See? Not every confrontation has to result in shoot to kill.
However, given the situation (the guy's car was boxed in), there was no need to shoot anyway. But at least he shot the car and not the driver.
This situation is very similar to Forcillo. A suspect is boxed in. Forcillo shot to kill. This cop shot to disable the car..... though overboard as the car wasn't going anywhere anyway.
Another case of excessive shooting. But at least nobody got hurt.... or killed this time.
Virtually every North American law enforcement agency uses hollow points; they'd be foolish not to. They're more effective at stopping the threat by creating a larger wound channel and have a lower chance of pass through both by way of expansion.Probably not, even considering the block was most likely aluminum, but the shots could easily take out the ignition or other essential components.
Question, do our cops actually use hollow points?
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Yeah ... good point ! He shot to kill the engine but he could have just as easily aimed at the ignition wires ... sure the engine would have limped along but at least it word be alive !!!I'm willing to bet those who were advocating leg shots in previous threads, will still be uppity about a cop shooting an engine block.
except they use 50 cal which punches a hole through the engine blockIt might also be that he fell back to his military training as he had been to Afghanistan. Shooting a cars engine block is something we learned in the military to try and stop a vehicle that could be a suicide bomber, etc.
not sure for metroIf I recall, Toronto police currently are using Glocks or Sigs and are chambered in .40cal S&W. More importantly, yes, Toronto's police force is not supposed to shoot a car to disable, however, they are allowed to shoot at the driver to stop the car. Go figure.
Not going to happen with the 9 mm pea shooters they have.It might also be that he fell back to his military training as he had been to Afghanistan. Shooting a cars engine block is something we learned in the military to try and stop a vehicle that could be a suicide bomber, etc.
This is true. A handgun round is just going to ricochet dangerously off a car engine. He could easily have killed HIMSELF doing that, or anybody else in the area. It was stupid.except they use 50 cal which punches a hole through the engine block
9mm...who carries 9mm? Not the cops. A "dessert" eagle, with whipped cram and a cherry on top? BTW, a .50 AE won't penetrate the block, you'd need a .50 BMG.Not going to happen with the 9 mm pea shooters they have.
They would need something like a Dessert Eagle to penetrate it with only one shot
Toronto carry Glock model 22, OPP carry Sig 229.not sure for metro
peel was S&W M&P in 40 cal - usually Federal HST, Remington Golden Saber, Speer Gold Dot and Winchester Ranger.
Doubt it was Sig - pretty expensive.